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4/9/2013 3:26 PM
Originally created many moons ago by examinerebb, this league makes any franchise a contender, and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season for non-playoff teams, then inverse order of win percentage of non-World Series playoff teams, with the WS runner-up picking 31st, and the WS champ choosing last. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-2012) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of each franchise's Rule V win percentage through all legs from which we have data (the worst teams pick first).  Many thanks to schwarze for compiling this data.  Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
No AAA


No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise)
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969 and 2012
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be run differential from the previous season, worse differential picks first

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season.  The scumbag finally won a championship (make it two after last leg).  Lady Karma has stunned us all with this development

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

The Single Most Overrated Position Player of All Time (TSMOPPOAT) - Cal Ripken, Jr.

(Both of those players designated by Vegas...see below)

Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King (emeritus)
4/14/2013 10:28 PM (edited)
Franchise draft order.  Thanks as always to schwarze for compiling the data.

Franchises in RED have already been selected.

Rank Franchise Years _Wins_ Losses Wining%
1 Rays 4 261 387 0.4028
2 D'backs 8 564 732 0.4352
3 Tigers 11 785 997 0.4405
4 Pirates 12 908 1036 0.4671
5 Rockies 9 694 764 0.4760
6 Twins 18 1397 1520 0.4789
7 Blue Jays 17 1327 1428 0.4817
8 Orioles 15 1182 1249 0.4862
9 Rangers 15 1184 1247 0.4870
10 Angels 12 949 995 0.4882
11 White Sox 5 396 414 0.4889
12 Padres 18 1435 1481 0.4921
13 Brewers 19 1525 1555 0.4951
14 Mariners 21 1696 1707 0.4984
15 Phillies 21 1701 1704 0.4996
16 Mets 20 1626 1615 0.5017
17 Expos 21 1713 1692 0.5031
18 Red Sox 21 1718 1685 0.5048
19 Giants 20 1642 1599 0.5066
20 Braves 21 1725 1677 0.5071
21 Indians 21 1726 1677 0.5072
22 Cubs 15 1233 1197 0.5074
23 Marlins 14 1152 1118 0.5075
24 Cardinals 21 1773 1630 0.5210
25 Royals 18 1533 1384 0.5255
26 Reds 15 1280 1150 0.5267
27 Dodgers 20 1714 1527 0.5288
28 Yankees 18 1551 1365 0.5319
29 A's 21 1844 1559 0.5419
30 Astros 21 1874 1529 0.5507
4/19/2013 3:44 PM (edited)

Franchise Draft Order (timed draft begins Thursday 4/11)

1. Disco Dogs     66-96     .407    Arizona Diamondbacks^
2. tjeffferson         67-95     .414    Houston Astros
3. tridentric           69-93     .426    Atlanta Braves^
4. Robin4              72-90     .444    Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals^
5. ff09                    72-90     .444     Detroit Tigers^
6. koyunlu             72-90     .444&  Los Angeles Dodgers^
7. spoonfed         73-89     .451     St. Louis Cardinals^
8. deathdealer     74-88      .457    Texas Rangers^
9. specsman        76-86     .469     Cincinnati Reds^
10. twfan               77-85      .475&  Los Angeles Angels^
11. moneybonn    79-83     .488     Cleveland Indians^
12. newarkwilder 81-81     .500      Toronto Blue Jays^
13. llcoach             84-78     .519      Seattle Mariners^
14. sinfonian11     86-76     .531     Pittsburgh Pirates^
15. mllama54        87-75     .537      Colorado Rockies^
16. shaybee           87-75     .537     San Francisco Giants^
17. mussopini23  84-78     .519*    Kansas City Royals^
18. rbow923          88-74      .543*    Boston Red Sox^
19. schwarze         89-73     .549*     Minnesota Twins^
20. marlowe          91-71     .562*     Baltimore Orioles^
21. alleyviper          91-71     .562*     Oakland Athletics^
22. devomac          96-66     .593*     Philadelphia Phillies^
23. sgsmith            97-65     .599@   Chicago White Sox^
24. bob_shabazz  86-76     .531%    New York Yankees^

* playoff team
@ WS runner-up
% WS champ
& new owner

^ third round keepers sent

Owner list for sitemailing: Disco Dogs; tjefferson; tridentric; Robin4; ff09;koyunlu; spoonfed; deathdealer; specsman; twfan; moneybonn; newarkwilder; llcoach; sinfonian11; mllama54; shaybee; mussopini23; rbow923; schwarze; marlowe; alleyviper; devomac; sgsmith; bob_shabazz
 
Division alignment

NL East: Braves, Phillies, Expos/Nationals, Pirates
NL Central: Royals, Astros, Cardinals, Reds
NL West: Dodgers, Giants, Rockies, Diamondbacks
AL East: Red Sox, Yankees, Blue Jays, Orioles
AL Central: Tigers, Indians, White Sox, Twins
AL West: Athletics, Angels, Mariners, Rangers

4/22/2013 9:07 PM (edited)

Player Draft Round One (timed schedule starts Tuesday 4/16)                                        Off the Board

1. Disco Dogs - Arizona Diamondbacks     Buster Posey - SFG
2. ff09 - Detroit Tigers                                      Fernando Valenzuela - LAD
3. sinfonian11 - Pittsburgh Pirates               Mike Norris - OAK
4. mllama54 - Colorado Rockies                  Tim Hudson - OAK                                         Oakland Athletics
5. schwarze - Minnesota Twins                     Juan Marichal - SFG                                      San Francisco Giants
6. newarkwilder - Toronto Blue Jays             Kevin Brown - LAD                                         Los Angeles Dodgers
7. marlowe - Baltimore Orioles                      Catfish Hunter - NYY                    
8. deathdealer - Texas Rangers                    Rico Petrocelli - BOS
9. twfan - Los Angeles Angels                        Curt Schilling - PHI
10. sgsmith - Chicago White Sox                   Kevin Appier - KCR
11. llcoach - Seattle Mariners                         Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS                                   Boston Red Sox
12. devomac - Philadelphia Phillies              Frank Tanana - LAA
13. Robin4 - Expos/Nationals                         TSMOPPOAT - BAL
14. rbow923 - Boston Red Sox                       Joe Morgan - CIN
15. shaybee - San Francisco Giants              Dave Righetti - NYY                                        New York Yankees
16. tridentric - Atlanta Braves                           Ozzie Smith - STL
17. moneybonn - Cleveland Indians              David Cone - KCR                                           Kansas City Royals
18. spoonfed - St. Louis Cardinals                 Darin Erstad - LAA                                         Los Angeles Angels
19. mussopini - Kansas City Royals              Omar Vizquel - CLE
20. specsman - Cincinnati Reds                    Doug Drabek - HOU
21. koyunlu - Los Angeles Dodgers               Carlos Delgado - TOR
22. bob_shabazz - New York Yankees          Johnny Bench - CIN                                       Cincinnati Reds 
23. alleyviper - Oakland Athletics                    Joe Torre - STL                                               St. Louis Cardinals
24. tjefferson - Houston Astros                        Mike Napoli - TEX

Player Draft Round Two

1. Disco Dogs - Arizona Diamondbacks     Craig Kimbrel - ATL
2. ff09 - Detroit Tigers                                      Bill Singer - LAD                                              
3. sinfonian11 - Pittsburgh Pirates               Hideo Nomo - LAD                                            Los Angeles Dodgers
4. mllama54 - Colorado Rockies                  Roy Halladay - PHI
5. schwarze - Minnesota Twins                     Larry Dierker - HOU
6. newarkwilder - Toronto Blue Jays             Carlton Fisk - BOS
7. marlowe - Baltimore Orioles                     Carl Yastrzemski - BOS                                  Boston Red Sox
8. deathdealer - Texas Rangers                    Larry Walker - MON/WSH
9. twfan - Los Angeles Angels                        Ted Simmons - STL
10. sgsmith - Chicago White Sox                   Nolan Ryan - HOU                                           Houston Astros
11. llcoach - Seattle Mariners                         Jim Edmonds - STL                                        St. Louis Cardinals
12. devomac - Philadelphia Phillies              Roger Nelson - KCR
13. Robin4 - Expos/Nationals                         Tom Glavine - ATL                                          Atlanta Braves
14. rbow923 - Boston Red Sox                       Edgar Martinez - SEA
15. shaybee - San Francisco Giants             Mariano Rivera - NYY
16. tridentric - Atlanta Braves                          Tim Burke - MON/WSH                                  Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals
17. moneybonn - Cleveland Indians              Harmon Killebrew - MIN
18. spoonfed - St. Louis Cardinals                Robinson Cano - NYY                                    New York Yankees
19. mussopini23 - Kansas City Royals        Cole Hamels - PHI                                          Philadelphia Phillies
20. specsman - Cincinnati Reds                    Darrell Porter - KCR                                     Kansas City Royals
21. koyunlu - Los Angeles Dodgers               Rich Aurillia - SFG
22. bob_shabazz - New York Yankees          Brian Giles - PIT
23. alleyviper - Oakland Athletics                    Francisco Liriano - MIN                                Minnesota Twins
24. tjefferson - Houston Astros                       Willie Hernandez - DET

Player Draft Round Three

1. Disco Dogs - Arizona Diamondbacks     Dante Bichette - COL
2. ff09 - Detroit Tigers                                     Bernie Williams - NYY
3. sinfonian11 - Pittsburgh Pirates              Aaron Hill - ARI
4. mllama54 - Colorado Rockies                 Matt Cain - SFG
5. schwarze - Minnesota Twins                     Michael Young - TEX
6. newarkwilder - Toronto Blue Jays            Bobby Murder - NYY                                        New York Yankees
7. marlowe - Baltimore Orioles                     Shawn Green - TOR
8. deathdealer - Texas Rangers                   Dennis Martinez - MON/WSH
9. twfan - Los Angeles Angels                       Ken Singleton - BAL
10. sgsmith - Chicago White Sox                  John Valentin - BOS
11. llcoach - Seattle Mariners                        Vinny Castilla - COL                                         Colorado Rockies
12. devomac - Philadelphia Phillies             Josh Hamilton - TEX                                        Texas Rangers
13. Robin4 - Expos/Nationals                        Don Wilson - HOU
14. rbow923 - Boston Red Sox                      Kris Medlen - ATL
15. shaybee - San Francisco Giants            Odalis Perez - LAD
16. tridentric - Atlanta Braves                          Joey Devine - OAK
17. moneybonn - Cleveland Indians             Carlos Guillen - DET
18. spoonfed - St. Louis Cardinals                Tim Salmon - LAA
19. mussopini - Kansas City Royals             Dustin Pedroia - BOS                                      Boston Red Sox
20. specsman - Cincinnati Reds                   Steve Sax - LAD                                               Los Angeles Dodgers
21. koyunlu - Los Angeles Dodgers              Willie McGee - STL                                          
22. bob_shabazz - New York Yankees          Larry Gura - KCR
23. alleyviper - Oakland Athletics                    Scott Rolen - STL                                             St. Louis Cardinals
24. tjefferson - Houston Astros                        Rico Carty - ATL                                                Atlanta Braves
 

4/22/2013 9:08 PM (edited)

List of keepers/draft picks

Disco Dogs - Arizona Diamondbacks:  Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Luis Gonzalez, Matt Williams, Justin Upton, Buster Posey - SFG, Daniel Hudson, Craig Kimbrel - ATL, Ian Kennedy, Dante Bichette - COL,

ff09 - Detroit Tigers:  Justin Verlander, Placido Polanco, Miguel Cabrera, Magglio Ordonez, Alan Trammell, Fernando Valenzuela - LAD, Kevin Saucier, Bill Singer - LAD, Tony Phillips, Bernie Williams - NYY,

sinfonian11 - Pittsburgh Pirates:  Barry Bonds, Andrew McCutchen, Jay Bell, Willie Stargell, Rick Rueschel, Mike Norris - OAK, Doug Drabek, Hideo Nomo - LAD, Jason Kendall, Aaron Hill - ARI,

mllama54 - Colorado Rockies:  Todd Helton, Larry Walker, Ubaldo Jimenez, Troy Tulowitski, Eric Young, Tim Hudson - OAK, Ellis Burks, Roy Halladay - PHI, Matt Holliday, Matt Cain - SFG,

schwarze - Minnesota Twins:  Joe Mauer, Rod Carew, Chuck Knoblauch, Kirby Puckett, Johan Santana, Juan Marichal - SFG, Joe Nathan, Larry Dierker - HOU,  Lymon Bostock, Michael Young - TEX,

newarkwilder - Toronto Blue Jays:  John Olerud, Roberto Alomar, Jose Bautista, Roger Clemens, Jimmy Key, Kevin Brown - LAD, Mark Eichhorn, Carlton Fisk - BOS, Tony Fernandez, Bobby Murcer - NYY

marlowe - Baltimore Orioles:  Chris Hoiles, Roberto Alomar, Brady Anderson, Jim Palmer, Mike Cuellar, Catfish Hunter - NYY, Miguel Tejada, Carl Yastrzemski - BOS, Al Bumbry, Shawn Green - TOR

deathdealer - Texas Rangers:  Fergie Jenkins, TSMOPOAT, Cliff Lee, Ivan Rodriguez, Alex Rodriguez, Rico Petrocelli - BOS, Rafael Palmeiro, Larry Walker - MON/WSH, Bert Blyleven, Dennis Martinez - MON/WSH

twfan - Los Angeles Angels:  Andy Messersmith, TSMOPOAT, Doug DeCinces, Bobby Grich, Mike Trout, Curt Schilling - PHI, Jered Weaver, Ted Simmons - STL, Bryan Harvey, Ken Singleton - BAL

sgsmith - Chicago White Sox:  Frank Thomas, Albert Belle, Dick Allen, Wilbur Wood, Keith Foulke, Kevin Appier - KCR, Bobby Jenks, Nolan Ryan - HOU, Chet Lemon, John Valentin - BOS

llcoach - Seattle Mariners:  Randy Johnson, Felix Hernandez, Ichiro Suzuki, Alex Rodriguez, Ken Griffey, Jr., Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS, Bret Boone, Jim Edmonds - STL, JJ Putz, Vinny Castilla - COL

devvomac - Philadelphia Phillies:  Steve Carlton, Mike Schmidt, Bobby Abreu, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, Frank Tanana - LAA, Lenny Dykstra, Roger Nelson - KCR, Billy Wagner, Josh Hamilton - TEX

Robin4 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:  Gary Carter, Ryan Zimmerman, Tim Raines, Pedro Martinez, Steve Rogers, TSMOPPOAT - BAL, Andre Dawson, Tom Glavine - ATL, Vladimir Guerrero, Don Wilson - HOU

rbow923 - Boston Red Sox:  Roger Clemens, Derek Lowe, Pedro Martinez, Wade Boggs, Nomar Garciaparra, Joe Morgan - CIN, Fred Lynn, Edgar Martinez - SEA, Jonathan Papelbon, Kris Medlen - ATL

shaybee - San Francisco Giants:  Barry Bonds, Willie McCovey, Kevin Mitchell, Jeff Kent, Jason Schmidt, Dave Righetti - NYY, Tim Lincecum, Mariano Rivera - NYY, Matt Williams, Odalis Perez - LAD

tridentric - Atlanta Braves:  Greg Maddux, Phil Niekro, John Smoltz, Chipper Jones, Hank Aaron, Ozzie Smith - STL, Kevin Millwood, Tim Burke - MON/WSH, Marcus Giles, Joey Devine - OAK

moneybonn - Cleveland Indians:  Gaylord Perry, Kenny Lofton, Albert Belle, Manny Ramirez, Jim Thome, David Cone - KCR, Roberto Alomar, Harmon Killebrew - MIN, Rafael Betancourt, Carlos Guillen - DET

spoonfed - St. Louis Cardinals:  Albert Pujols, Mark McGwire, John Tudor, Bob Gibson, Jose Deleon, Darin Erstad - LAA, Yadier Molina, Robinson Cano - NYY, Chris Carpenter, Tim Salmon - LAA

mussopini23 - Kansas City Royals:  George Brett, Carlos Beltran, Johnny Damon, Bret Saberhagen, Zack Greinke, Omar Vizquel - CLE, Mike Sweeney, Cole Hamels - PHIJoaquim Soria, Dustin Pedroia - BOS

specsman - Cincinnati Reds:  Tom Seaver, Barry Larkin, George Foster, Joey Votto, HWMNBN, Doug Drabek - HOU, Aroldis Chapman, Darrell Porter - KCR, Tony Perez, Steve Sax - LAD

koyunlu - Los Angeles Dodgers:  Don Sutton, Clayton Kershaw, Matt Kemp, Mike Piazza, Adrian Beltre, Carlos Delgado - TOR, Orel Hershiser, Rich Aurillia - SFG, Eric Gagne, Willie McGee - STL

bob_shabazz - New York Yankees:  Ron Guidry, Fritz Peterson, Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Paul O'Neill, Johnny Bench - CIN, Rickey Henderson, Brian Giles - PIT, Tom Gordon, Larry Gura - KCR

alleyviper - Oakland Athletics:  Mark McGwire, Rickey Henderson, Jason Giambi, Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter, Joe Torre - STL, Dennis Eckersley, Francisco Liriano - MIN, Reggie Jackson, Scott Rolen - STL

tjefferson - Houston Astros:  Jeff Bagwill, Craig Biggio, Roger Clemens, Mike Scott, J.R. Richard, Mike Napoli - TEX, Lance Berkman, Willie Hernandez - DET, Billy Wagner, Rico Carty - ATL

 

4/10/2013 8:35 AM
Disco hasn't opened the sitemail I sent yesterday. Hopefully he'll be along soon.
4/10/2013 11:41 AM
17th pick not bad for finishing & advancing, let's hope I can finally be able to pick the franchise I have rooted for for most my life!
4/10/2013 1:05 PM
Was really hoping we'd be like halfway through the draft by now. Alas...
4/10/2013 4:29 PM
Disco sitemailed me.  He's having trouble using the forums with the new version of Internet Explorer.  Won't give him a cursor so he can post here.  Anyway, he's taking the Arizona Diamondbacks.
4/10/2013 4:31 PM
Odd, it works if i use google chrome, but not internet explorer, odd

4/10/2013 4:37 PM
I had something similar happen to me last night.  I usually use Chrome, but it's a bit more finicky with the HTML formatting, so I switched over to Explorer.  When I did that, I had the same issue you did.  Was able to click on something that changed the interface back to the old version...then it worked okay.
4/10/2013 5:21 PM
Houston Astros
4/10/2013 6:05 PM
You see, you guys need to free yourselves from the crack whore that is Microsoft and become one in the Mac universe.

Atlanta Braves

I haven't screwed them up recently
4/10/2013 8:43 PM
Expos/Nationals
4/10/2013 11:21 PM
Detroit Tigers
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