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5/24/2013 7:15 PM
Should coach firings in D1 occur more frequently?

Votes: 95
(Last vote received: 5/30/2013 5:10 AM)
5/24/2013 7:17 PM
The PIT-related poll I posted last weekend ended up surprisingly close, a virtual dead heat. I'm wondering if this one will turn out the same way.

To all the US-based coaches, have a very happy and safe Memorial Day weekend.
5/24/2013 7:25 PM
Should it for the good of the game? 100% yes, but this is a business, not just a game, and for that reason the people that run WIS would never risk firing long time customers.
5/24/2013 8:01 PM
The results of the poll will probably be an overwhelming yes.
5/24/2013 8:26 PM (edited)
Definitely yes but only for DI. Not fair to the people waiting for a shot at a big time job but there is a coach there that is under-achieving and not getting fired for it. Or even the coaches who are at a mid-level BCS schools that aren't doing good at all but they still never get fired. Just not fair in my opinion.
5/24/2013 8:24 PM
I'd suggest another poll:
Would you find another job if you were fired or quit the game?


5/24/2013 8:44 PM
Posted by rsvphr on 5/24/2013 8:24:00 PM (view original):
I'd suggest another poll:
Would you find another job if you were fired or quit the game?


Could be interesting, but I think it's hard to really know what you'd do when fired until you've actually been fired.

I imagine WIS has done some of its own research on retention of fired coaches. Based on the infrequent occurrence of firings, the retention rate must be quite low.
5/24/2013 9:32 PM
I doubt they have studied data.  There isnt much data to study.  There should be more firings.

The smart answer would be to give you a free season - not transferable to another world - to go with the firing.  That would encourage people to give it another.  Heck, I should have been fired at a couple of places.
5/24/2013 10:27 PM
I look at this game as a represenation of real life as best as they can do it logarithmically. I would not be the least bit reluctant to find another job if fired nor the least bit put out by it. I suspect I'm in the majority. You're losing a lot more coaches to job advancement frustration than offended underproducing coaches.
5/24/2013 10:42 PM
Posted by tkimble on 5/24/2013 7:25:00 PM (view original):
Should it for the good of the game? 100% yes, but this is a business, not just a game, and for that reason the people that run WIS would never risk firing long time customers.
If they do it right, I don't think they'd alienate too many customers. I think most paying customers would recognize it was well past time, and be OK with the fact if they were fired at an A+ baseline school if they didn't make the NT for 17 consecutive seasons. Not trying to be facetious, that's a real example where a coach was able to hang around that long just by making the PIT, and that illustrates how difficult it is to get fired.  Where they run a risk of alienating people is if they dramatically overcompensate and start firing people who didn't get a real opportunity to turn a program around, or if you start firing people at A+ programs for having 2 bad seasons, or something like that.  But if you can't make the NT even once in 10+ seasons at an A+ school, and you get fired, could anyone really complain?
5/24/2013 10:49 PM
Posted by rsvphr on 5/24/2013 10:27:00 PM (view original):
I look at this game as a represenation of real life as best as they can do it logarithmically. I would not be the least bit reluctant to find another job if fired nor the least bit put out by it. I suspect I'm in the majority. You're losing a lot more coaches to job advancement frustration than offended underproducing coaches.
+!
5/24/2013 10:52 PM
Ina strange sort of way, increased firings might actually draw more people to Division 1 because it increases the challenge there. You'd have even more reason to try to put together and maintain a top program. However, if firings increased, I think that it might be important to also reduce the number of EEs as those can devastate a program. Also, perhaps the expectations that the school has could be printed on the team page before you take the job.
5/25/2013 1:00 AM
Posted by metsmax on 5/24/2013 9:32:00 PM (view original):
I doubt they have studied data.  There isnt much data to study.  There should be more firings.

The smart answer would be to give you a free season - not transferable to another world - to go with the firing.  That would encourage people to give it another.  Heck, I should have been fired at a couple of places.
Agreed with all of this, metsmax.

And though I voted yes, I would amend to say "BCS firings". I see no need to fire low/mid DI coaches.

5/26/2013 12:45 PM
Posted by rsvphr on 5/24/2013 10:27:00 PM (view original):
I look at this game as a represenation of real life as best as they can do it logarithmically. I would not be the least bit reluctant to find another job if fired nor the least bit put out by it. I suspect I'm in the majority. You're losing a lot more coaches to job advancement frustration than offended underproducing coaches.
+1
5/26/2013 2:29 PM
Haha 50-0. 
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