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11/14/2013 2:47 PM
Posted by dacj501 on 11/14/2013 9:15:00 AM (view original):
Lone Star 18 wins, 1 pending
Cal CAA 15 wins, 3 pending

(Penn St 16 wins, 1 pending)


Today's #2 Grand Valley St v #6 TAMU, Commerce game could decide MUSDUC III. Lone Star currently leads with 18 wins, and one game pending. The Cal CAA sits at 15 wins, but has 3 games this PM. Both GVSU and TAMUC are 4-0 in MUSDUC III games, and TAMUC is favored by 1 point on the road.

A GVSU win leaves the Lone Star vulnerable. The CCAA would need all 3 of its PM games to come through to force a tie. 5 of the 6 teams in those 3 games are 1-3 in MUSDUC III so far, with CSU, LA at 3-1 the sole interloper. CSU, LA is heavily favored (-13) over simai Tuskegee of the decimated Southern Conference (9 wins, 1 pending). Grand Canyon is a 2 pt favorite at home vs Wayne St from the GLIAC (12 wins, 2 pending). Sonoma St and Clarion (Penn St - 16 wins, but just 1 pending and no chance to catch the Lone Star for 1st place) are a pick'em. 

The Cal CAA and the Lone Star split their head-to-head 3-3 so the next tie-break will be total margin of victory, which I am not about to calculate unless I need to! Good luck coaches, and may the best (non California based) conference win!

TAMU, Commerce pulled off the road win 62-52, so GVSU and TAMUC swap national rankings and the Lone Star wins its first MUSDUC with 19 overall wins. Congrats Lone Star. 

conference total wins
LONE STAR 19
CAL CAA 16
PENN ST AC 16
HEARTLAND 14
GLIAC 13
SOUTHERN 10

There will be no relegation this season. The Southern Conference will be replaced by the newly reconstituted North American conference. We hope to see the Southern return soon. Schedules to follow shortly for MUSDUC IV. Thanks for making this the best damn tournament in HD!

 
11/17/2013 4:45 PM (edited)
MUSDUC IV seeds:
 
CCAA GLIAC HEARTLAND LONE STAR NAAA PSAC
BAKERSFIELD GRAND VALLEY ST ROCKHURST NORTHEASTERN ST CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
SONOMA ST FINDLAY N ALABAMA TAMU, KINGSVILLE SLIPPERY ROCK SHIPPENSBURG
CAL POLY POMONA NORTHWOOD ST MARY'S TAMU, COMMERCE W VIRGINIA WESLEYAN BLOOMSBURG
SAN FRAN ST FERRIS ST ST EDWARD'S MIDWESTERN ST ALASKA, ANCHORAGE E STROUDSBURG
SAN BERNARDINO WAYNE ST MONTEVALLO TARLETON ST W OREGON LOCK HAVEN
GRAND CANYON MICHIGAN TECH W ALABAMA SW OKLAHOMA ST STONEHILL CLARION
11/17/2013 6:02 PM
MUSDUC IV Schedule now live on MUSDUC.com
11/17/2013 8:50 PM
So, we are scheduling the MUSDUC in weeks 3-7, correct? 
11/18/2013 4:56 AM
Posted by echaney on 11/17/2013 8:50:00 PM (view original):
So, we are scheduling the MUSDUC in weeks 3-7, correct? 
yes, if possible. sorry for the confusion
11/18/2013 7:44 AM
Due to numerous errors on my part, there are a few corrections necessary for the MUSDUC IV schedule. I believe that the schedule as posted currently is accurate and that all games that are set to be scheduled have open slots available. Here are the changes that were made:

1st - bob squad of Cal Poly Pomona posted previously that he was already scheduled for next season and would wait for MUSDUC V, but I failed to note his post, and slotted Cal Poly Pomona at #3. Since all those games are filled, and since CSU, Los Angeles has an open slate and per RWOPR is compatible, I am slotting CSU, LA in the #3 CCAA slot. This affects sharrow (CSU,LA), a_in_the_b (St. Mary's), sublightd (Northwood), shucky (TAMU, Commerce), johnmacdan (Bloomsburg), and hubie72 (WV Wesleyan).  I haven't gotten confirmation from sharrow that he will participate, but making the switch is a no-brainer. If sharrow is out, the games don't get scheduled, which is currently the default anyway since Pomona is full. My apologies.

Lock Haven @ W Oregon wk 5 cannot be played as there are no corresponding openings between the two teams. 

The following games have had their wk changed:

Ferris St @ St Edward's: wk 1
St Edward's @ Midwestern St: wk 2
St Edward's @ San Francisco St: wk 8
E Stroudsburg @ St Edward's: wk 10
Northwood @ CSU, LA (Cal Pomona): wk 8
San Bernardino @ Montevallo: wk 8
Stonehill @ Clarion: wk 8
Alaska, Anchorage @ Ferris St: wk 8
Tarleton St @ W Oregon: wk 8
California U @ Central St: wk 8
St Mary's @ Bloomsburg: wk 8


Affected coaches please be very careful to double check any game offers. Thanks.

12/18/2013 8:01 AM (edited)

MUSDUC IV: Congrats to the Lone Star conference who become back-to-back champs win 22 wins.

To see the document without the formatting being fubared by the forum editor, click here...


SPOT #3:

CSU, Bakersfield 53 @ California 60 (OT)

Northeastern St 77 @ Central St 83

Rockhurst 79 (OT) @ Grand Valley St 71


Shippensburg 84 @ Sonoma St 68

Slippery Rock 72 @ TAMU, Kingsville 92

Findlay 62 @ N Alabama 60


CSU, Los Angeles  65 @ Bloomsburg 76

TAMU, Commerce 71 @ WV Wesleyan 60

St. Mary's 73 @ Northwood 83


E Stroudsburg 56 @ San Francisco St 54

Alaska, Anchorage 50 @ Midwestern St 53

Ferris St 72 @ St. Edward's (wk 1) 81 (OT)


Lock Haven 63 @ CSU, San Bernardino 74

Tarleton St 76 @ W Oregon (wk 8) 69

Montevallo 76 @ Wayne St 68


Grand Canyon 94 @ Clarion 63

Stonehill 59 @ SW Oklahoma St 77

Michigan Tech 39 @ W Alabama 55


SPOT #4

Central St 59 @ CSU, Bakersfield 45

Northeastern St 86 @ Rockhurst 76

California 51 @ Grand Valley St 61


Sonoma St 107  @ Slippery Rock 69

N Alabama 47 @ TAMU, Kingsville 57

Findlay 79 @ Shippensburg  89


WV Wesleyan 72 @ CSU, Los Angeles 81

TAMU, Commerce 86 @ St. Mary's 92 (OT)

Bloomsburg 64 @ Northwood 62


San Francisco St 54 @ Alaska, Anchorage 40

St. Edward's 62 @ Midwestern St (wk 2) 82

Ferris St 53 @ E Stroudsburg 77


W Oregon 68 @  CSU, San Bernardino 77 (wk5)

Tarleton St 53  @ Montevallo  64

Lock Haven 57 @ Wayne St 47


Grand Canyon 68 @ Stonehill 52

W Alabama 60 @ SW Oklahoma St 64

Michigan Tech 78 @ Clarion 76


SPOT #5

CSU, Bakersfield 58 @ Rockhurst 75

Grand Valley St 64 @ Northeastern St 78

California 57 @ Central St (wk 8) 66


N Alabama 68 @ Sonoma St 63

TAMU, Kingsville 60 @ Findlay 62

Slippery Rock 70 @ Shippensburg 79


CSU, Los Angeles 95 (OT) @ St. Mary's 93

Northwood 63 @ TAMU, Commerce 60

Bloomsburg  68 @ WV Wesleyan 67


St. Edward's 54 @ San Francisco St (wk 8) 59

Midwestern St 78 @ Ferris St 64

Alaska, Anchorage 48 @ E Stroudsburg 49


CSU San Bernardino 67 @ Montevallo (wk 2) 77

Wayne St  78 @ Tarleton St 83

Lock Haven @ W Oregon*NO SPOTS AVAIL


W Alabama 62 @ Grand Canyon 67

SW Oklahoma St 78 @ Michigan Tech 63

Stonehill 63 @ Clarion (wk 8) 59


SPOT #6

Grand Valley St 63 @ CSU, Bakersfield 48

Central St 59 @ Rockhurst 64

Northeastern St 59  @ California 60


Sonoma St @ Findlay

N Alabama 68 @ Slippery Rock 50

Shippensburg 70 @ TAMU, Kingsville 60


Northwood 75 @ CSU, Los Angeles (wk 8) 76 (OT)

WV Wesleyan 56 @ St. Mary's 66

TAMU, Commerce 75  @ Bloomsburg 57


San Francisco St 54 @ Ferris St 42

St. Edward's 71 @ Alaska, Anchorage  59

E Stroudsburg 53 @ Midwestern St 50

Wayne St 54 @  CSU, San Bernardino 85

W Oregon 62 @ Montevallo 75 (wk 8)

Tarleton St 54  @ Lock Haven 51


Grand Canyon 83 @ Michigan Tech 59

W Alabama 53 @ Stonehill 51

Clarion 51 @ SW Oklahoma St 85


SPOT #7

CSU, Bakersfield 56 @ Northeastern St 85

Grand Valley St 80 @ Central St 78

Rockhurst 59 @ California 64


TAMU, Kingsville 88 @ Sonoma St 78

Slippery Rock 78 @ Findlay 93

Shippensburg 61 @ N Alabama 50


CSU, Los Angeles 47 @ TAMU, Commerce 54

Northwood 68 @ WV Wesleyan 70 (wk 8)

St. Mary's 64 @ Bloomsburg (wk 2) 54


Midwestern St 54 @ San Francisco St 61

Alaska, Anchorage 58 @ Ferris St (wk 8) 62

E Stroudsburg @ St. Edward's (wk 10)


CSU, San Bernardino 62 @ Tarleton St 70

Wayne St 60 @ W Oregon  76

Montevallo 67 @ Lock Haven 56


SW Oklahoma St 80 @ Grand Canyon 96

Stonehill 83 @ Michigan Tech 72

Clarion 70 @ W Alabama 80


LONE STAR: 22 WINS

HEARTLAND: 18 WINS, 1 REMAINING

PSAC: 16 WINS, 1 REMAINING

CCAA: 16 WINS

GLIAC: 10 WINS

NAAA: 7 WINS
12/18/2013 8:51 AM (edited)
RWOPR RATINGS FOR MUSDUC V.

CCAA GLIAC HEARTLAND LONE STAR NORTH AMERICAN PENN ST
SAN FRAN ST NORTHWOOD ST EDWARD'S E CENTRAL CENTRAL ST SHIPPENSBURG
SONOMA ST WAYNE ST LINCOLN TARLETON ST WV WESLEYAN BLOOMSBURG
GRAND CANYON FINDLAY MONTEVALLO SW OKLAHOMA ST STONEHILL CALIFORNIA
CAL, DAVIS MICHIGAN TECH ROCKHURST TAMU, COMMERCE ALASKA, ANCHORAGE E STROUDSBURG
CSU, LOS ANGELES GRAND VALLEY ST ST MARY'S MIDWESTERN ST W OREGON LOCK HAVEN
CSU, STANISLAUS FERRIS ST W ALABAMA NORTHEASTERN ST WEST CHESTER CLARION
CAL POLY POMONA   N ALABAMA TAMU, KINGSVILLE SLIPPERY ROCK  
UCSD   VALDOSTA ST      
CSU, CHICO   W FLORIDA      
DOMINGUEZ HILLS   DRURY      
SAN BERNARDINO          
CSU, BAKERSFIELD          
12/21/2013 4:19 AM
RWOPR RATINGS ALL TEAMS MUSDUC V:


NORTHWOOD GLIAC 17654
SAN FRAN ST CCAA 14505
SHIPPENSBURG PSAC 14499
WAYNE ST GLIAC 14322
SONOMA ST CCAA 13795
GRAND CANYON CCAA 13169
CAL, DAVIS CCAA 12609
CSU, LA CCAA 12433
ST ED'S HEARTLAND 12368
FINDLAY GLIAC 12325
LINCOLN HEARTLAND 11439
BLOOMSBURG PSAC 11402
E CENTRAL LONE STAR 11207
TARLETON LONE STAR 11205
CENTRAL ST NAAA 11156
MONTEVALLO HEARTLAND 11148
WVW NAAA 10799
CSU, STANISLAUS CCAA 10739
SW OKLAHOMA ST LONE STAR 10673
ROCKHURST HEARTLAND 10629
ST MARY'S HEARTLAND 10414
STONEHILL NAAA 10366
CAL POLY POMONA CCAA 10351
UCSD CCAA 10029
CALIFORNIA PSAC 9963
TAMU, COMMERCE LONE STAR 9818
W ALABAMA HEARTLAND 9770
CSU, CHICO CCAA 9658
ALASKA, ANCHORAGE NAAA 9641
W OREGON NAAA 9611
N ALABAMA HEARTLAND 9263
DOMINGUEZ HILLS CCAA 9261
SAN BERNARDINO CCAA 9030
MICH TECH GLIAC 8988
V ST HEARTLAND 8884
MIDWESTERN ST LONE STAR 8794
WEST CHESTER NAAA 8740
GVSU GLIAC 8736
E STROUDSBURG PSAC 8716
W FLORIDA HEARTLAND 8603
NORTHEASTERN ST LONE STAR 8459
DRURY HEARTLAND 8349
FERRIS ST GLIAC 7969
TAMU, KINGSVILLE LONE STAR 7917
LOCK HAVEN PSAC 7689
SLIPPERY ROCK NAAA 6773
CLARION PSAC 5710
CSU, BAKERSFIELD CCAA 5047
12/23/2013 10:43 AM
Haven't received reply from Bloomsburg (jonmacdan) for Slot #5 match vs. Stonehill (me)
1/22/2014 10:00 PM
RWOPR ratings all teams MUSDUC VI
GRAND CANYON 14040 CAA
DRURY 13640 HEARTLAND
FERRIS ST 12695 GLIAC
NORTHWOOD 12068 GLIAC
FINDLAY 11888 GLIAC
VALDOSTA 11827 HEARTLAND
MICH TECH 11560 GLIAC
CSU, LA 11477 CAA
TAMU, KINGSVILLE 11411 LONE STAR
WORD 11277 HEARTLAND
BAKERSFIELD 11218 CAA
MONTEVALLO 11119 HEARTLAND
N BAMA 11064 HEARTLAND
CENTRAL ST 11053 NAAA
SLIPPERY ROCK 11009 NAAA
MIDWESTERN ST 10928 LONE STAR
LINCOLN 10615 HEARTLAND
UCSD 10578 CAA
W FLORIDA 10425 HEARTLAND
LOCK HAVEN 10318 PSAC
SAN BERNARDINO 10255 CAA
STONEHILL 10003 NAAA
E STROUDS 9981 PSAC
NORTHEASTERN ST 9895 LONE STAR
WAYNE ST 9786 GLIAC
CALIFORNIA 9448 PSAC
E CENTRAL 9334 LONE STAR
ALASKA, ANCH 9213 NAAA
TAMU, COMMERCE 9079 LONE STAR
CLARION 9073 PSAC
DOM HILLS 8953 CAA
STANISLAUS 8925 CAA
ST MARY'S 8700 HEARTLAND
DAVIS 8687 CAA
CHICO 8509 CAA
ROCKHURST 8387 HEARTLAND
TARLETON ST 8251 LONE STAR
SW OKLAHOMA ST 8250 LONE STAR
W BAMA 8127 HEARTLAND
GVSU 7838 GLIAC
OPSU 7710 HEARTLAND
WV WESLEYAN 7029 NAAA
SONOMA 6765 CAA
ST ED'S 6384 HEARTLAND
SHIPP 6383 PSAC
INDIANA 6225 PSAC
SF ST 5769 CAA
W OREGON 5311 NAAA
1/22/2014 10:03 PM
RWOPR by conference MUSDUC VI:

CCAA GLIAC HEARTLAND LONE STAR NORTH AMERICAN PENN ST
GRAND CANYON FERRIS ST DRURY TAMU, KINGSVILLE CENTRAL ST LOCK HAVEN
CSU, LA NORTHWOOD VALDOSTA MIDWESTERN ST SLIPPERY ROCK E STROUDS
BAKERSFIELD FINDLAY WORD NORTHEASTERN ST STONEHILL CALIFORNIA
UCSD MICH TECH MONTEVALLO E CENTRAL ALASKA, ANCH CLARION
SAN BERNARDINO WAYNE ST N BAMA TAMU, COMMERCE WV WESLEYAN SHIPP
DOM HILLS GVSU LINCOLN TARLETON ST W OREGON INDIANA
STANISLAUS   W FLORIDA SW OKLAHOMA ST    
DAVIS   ST MARY'S      
CHICO   ROCKHURST      
SONOMA   W BAMA      
SF ST   OPSU      
    ST ED'S      
1/22/2014 10:07 PM
Final Seeds for last season's MUSDUC V for record keeping:

Seed/ 

Conf

 Cal CAA 
?(RWOPR)

 

 

Great Lakes IAC
(RWOPR) 

 Heartland 

(SUBMITTED)

 

 

Lone Star
(RWOPR)? 
Penn St AC
(SUBMITTED)?

North American AA

(RWOPR)? 

 

#1

SAN FRANCISCO ST 

NORTHWOOD

ST EDWARD'S
E CENTRAL
SHIPPENSBURG
CENTRAL ST

#2

SONOMA ST
FINDLAY
LINCOLN
TARLETON ST
CALIFORNIA
WV WESLEYAN

#3

CAL, DAVIS
WAYNE ST
MONTEVALLO
SW OKLAHOMA ST
BLOOMSBURG
STONEHILL

#4

CSU, LOS ANGELES
MICHIGAN TECH
ST MARY'S
TAMU, COMMERCE
E STROUDSBURG
ALASKA, ANCHORAGE

#5

CSU, STANISLAUS
 GRAND VALLEY ST
W ALABAMA
MIDWESTERN ST 
LOCK HAVEN
W OREGON

#6

CAL POLY, POMONA
 FERRIS ST
VALDOSTA ST
NORTHEASTERN ST
CLARION
WEST CHESTER







1/22/2014 10:14 PM
MUSDUC V results refuse to post in this ****** editor. Cal CAA won with 20 wins. See MUSDUC.com for current results, or this google doc for the history.
1/23/2014 6:01 PM (edited)
Posted by rogelio on 9/14/2013 8:42:00 PM (view original):
I'll be glad to delete this, it's going to take up some space, but here's a quick idea on scheduling that may quickly address mmt/llamanunts concerns.  The idea would be that the conferences would be ranked A-F (A the winner thru F - relegation entrant) and the A, B & C and D, E, F conferences would play one another 1-6, but the games between any of ABC & DEF would not be purely 1-6.  Here's the chart [Rank is the sum of each of the seeds played, which in a straight 1 only plays other 1s schedule would be 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30): [Edited to even out the brackets and rankings]

A A B C D E F Rank
1   1 1 2 3 4 11
2   2 2 1 5 3 13
3   3 3 6 1 2 15
4   4 4 5 6 1 20
5   5 5 4 2 6 22
6   6 6 3 4 5 24
B              
1 1   1 4 2 3 11
2 2   2 3 1 5 13
3 3   3 2 6 1 15
4 4   4 1 5 6 20
5 5   5 6 4 2 22
6 6   6 5 3 4 24
C              
1 1 1   3 4 2 11
2 2 2   5 3 1 13
3 3 3   1 2 6 15
4 4 4   6 1 5 20
5 5 5   2 6 4 22
6 6 6   4 5 3 24
D              
1 2 4 3   1 1 11
2 1 3 5   2 2 13
3 6 2 1   3 3 15
4 5 1 6   4 4 20
5 4 6 2   5 5 22
6 3 5 4   6 6 24
E              
1 3 2 4 1   1 11
2 5 1 3 2   2 13
3 1 6 2 3   3 15
4 6 5 1 4   4 20
5 2 4 6 5   5 22
6 4 3 5 6   6 24
F              
1 4 3 2 1 1   11
2 3 5 1 2 2   13
3 2 1 6 3 3   15
4 1 6 5 4 4   20
5 6 2 4 5 5   22
6 5 4 3 6 6   24

I ran the numbers on the Heartland conference for the 3 seasons we have complete season data and wopr or rwopr rankings (MUSDUC II, III and IV). While wopr did a respectable job (4 of 6 twice, 6 of 6 once) picking the best 6 from our conference who were interested to compete, the final season standings and the wopr predictions for relative power weren't really all that well aligned. 

season team record finish WOPR
65 MONTE 14-2 1 1
65 LINCOLN 14-2 2 NA
65 DRURY 11-5 3 4
65 VALDOSTA ST 11-5 4 5
65 W FLORIDA 10-6 5 3
65 N BAMA 9-7 6 NA
65 W BAMA 8-8 7 2
65 OPSU 7-9 8 NA
65 ST MARY'S 6-10 9 NA
65 ROCKHURST 6-10 10 NA
65 WORD 3-13 11 6
65 ST ED'S 2-14 12 7
66 MONTE 14-2 1 1
66 W FLA 13-3 2 4
66 ST ED'S 11-5 3 NA
66 LINC 10-6 4 2
66 ROCKHURST 8-8 5 10
66 V ST 8-8 6 3
66 ST MARY'S 6-10 7 7
66 WORD 6-10 8 NA
66 W BAMA 5-11 9 5
66 DRURY 4-12 10 8
66 N BAMA 4-12 11 9
66 OPSU 3-13 12 6
67 MONTE 13-3 1 5
67 ROCK 13-3 2 1
67 ST MARY'S 12-4 3 3
67 LINC 12-4 4 7
67 W FLA 9-7 5 11
67 ST ED'S 9-7 6 4
67 W BAMA 6-10 7 6
67 N BAMA 6-10 8 2
67 WORD 5-11 9 10
67 DRURY 4-12 10 12
67 V ST 4-12 11 8
67 OPSU 3-13 12 9


As I just posted to the Central's CC, I'd love to have the MUSDUC I envision where the seeding is close to reflective and everyone plays someone that is just about as good as they are, but even if wopr was 100% that still wouldn't exist when the conferences themselves are so unbalanced (ie some only have the minimum 6 while others are full or nearly so). I'm smart enough to want to have the best MUSDUC we can though, and after a lot of consideration I think that the schedule proposed by rogelio and quoted above is probably the best and most fair schedule we can use for MUSDUC games. I've asked the Central to chime in here and if they won't rejoin given that I've now seen the light as it were. Please post any thoughts or comments about this change below. If there are no major objections in the next couple days I will implement this for MUSDUC VII. Thanks everyone 
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