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2/21/2014 9:02 AM
thanks for the kudos everyone - its not why I do this, but it is appreciated :)
2/24/2014 8:21 PM
This is a possible solution that I can send as an excel that will basically auto-complete (once the Xi are completed):

SCHEDULE 8 7 6 5 4
A1 @B1 C1 @D2 E3 @F4
A2 B2 @C2 D1 @E5 F3
A3 @B3 C3 @D6 E1 @F2
A4 B4 @C4 D5 @E6 F1
A5 @B5 C5 @D4 E2 @F6
A6 B6 @C6 D3 @E4 F5
B1 A1 @E2 F3 @D4 C1
B2 @A2 E1 @F5 D3 @C2
B3 A3 @E6 F1 @D2 C3
B4 @A4 E5 @F6 D1 @C4
B5 A5 @E4 F2 @D6 C5
B6 @A6 E3 @F4 D5 @C6
C1 D3 @A1 E4 @F2 @B1
C2 @D5 A2 @E3 F1 B2
C3 D1 @A3 E2 @F6 @B3
C4 @D6 A4 @E1 F5 B4
C5 D2 @A5 E6 @F4 @B5
C6 @D4 A6 @E5 F3 B6
D1 @C3 @F1 A2 @B4 E1
D2 @C5 F2 @A1 B3 @E2
D3 @C1 @F3 A6 @B2 E3
D4 C6 F4 @A5 B1 @E4
D5 C2 @F5 A4 @B6 E5
D6 C4 F6 @A3 B5 @E6
E1 F1 @B2 C4 @A3 @D1
E2 @F2 B1 @C3 @A5 D2
E3 F3 @B6 C2 @A1 @D3
E4 @F4 B5 @C1 A6 D4
E5 F5 @B4 C6 A2 @D5
E6 @F6 B3 @C5 A4 D6
F1 @E1 D1 @B3 @C2 A4
F2 E2 @D2 @B5 C1 @A3
F3 @E3 D3 @B1 @C6 A2
F4 E4 @D4 B6 C5 @A1
F5 @E5 D5 B2 @C4 A6
F6 E6 @D6 B4 C3 @A5
2/25/2014 9:07 PM
dacj501, we in the GLIAC are submitting our own ranking for the MUSDUC 

FERRIS ST,
FINDLAY
Grand Valley State 
MICH TECH
WAYNE ST
NORTHWOOD
2/26/2014 2:43 AM
RWOPR ALL TEAMS MUSDUC VII

18589 FAY ST CENTRAL
15193 ECSU CENTRAL
14323 E CENTRAL LONE STAR
14262 DOM HILLS CAA
13789 W FLA HEARTLAND
13519 UCSD CAA
13314 V ST HEARTLAND
12966 TARLETON LONE STAR
12768 SW OK ST LONE STAR
12727 GVSU GLIAC
12611 W BAMA HEARTLAND
12499 N COLORADO NCIA (RMNC)
12453 ST MARY HEARTLAND
11623 MESA ST RMAC (RMNC)
11562 TAMUC LONE STAR
11551 MN ST MANKATO NCIA (RMNC)
10959 MONTE HEARTLAND
10846 VU CENTRAL
10845 CHADRON ST RMAC (RMNC)
10782 CHICO CAA
10556 STAN CAA
10555 BSU CENTRAL
10337 ST EDS HEARTLAND
10152 ROCKHURST HEARTLAND
10086 VSU CENTRAL
10026 MICH TECH GLIAC
9961 MIDWESTERN ST LONE STAR
9938 DRURY HEARTLAND
9807 FERRIS ST GLIAC
9457 NE ST LONE STAR
9236 OPSU HEARTLAND
8988 NCCU CENTRAL
8947 N BAMA HEARTLAND
8661 CSULA CAA
8645 SF ST CAA
8530 OAKLAND CITY NCIA (RMNC)
8293 POLY POMONA CAA
8059 FINDLAY GLIAC
8007 GRAND CANYON CAA
7597 N DAKOTA ST NCIA (RMNC)
7493 WSSU CENTRAL
7142 WORD HEARTLAND
6804 WAYNE ST GLIAC
6442 TAMUK LONE STAR
5487 ST AUGIE CENTRAL
4836 LINCOLN HEARTLAND
3655 NORTHWOOD GLIAC
10782 CHICO CAA
10556 STAN CAA
8661 CSULA CAA
8645 SF ST CAA
8293 POLY POMONA CAA
8007 GRAND CANYON CAA
 
2/26/2014 2:04 PM (edited)
Just wondering how you calculate RWOPR.....more for my current project that I am working on for programming. I am attempting to create a version of Hoops Dynasty that is different but has the same overall idea. Any input would be great and anyone interested in helping out with my project would be appreciated as well. 

Disclaimer: I am not using any of Hoops Dynasty lingo or anything of that nature. Just working on a similar idea since I have time and just want something to do. I am not going to use any of Hoops Dynasty information or trademarks or copyright. 
2/26/2014 6:38 PM
Posted by obituaryconc on 2/26/2014 2:04:00 PM (view original):
Just wondering how you calculate RWOPR.....more for my current project that I am working on for programming. I am attempting to create a version of Hoops Dynasty that is different but has the same overall idea. Any input would be great and anyone interested in helping out with my project would be appreciated as well. 

Disclaimer: I am not using any of Hoops Dynasty lingo or anything of that nature. Just working on a similar idea since I have time and just want something to do. I am not going to use any of Hoops Dynasty information or trademarks or copyright. 
Pasted from my previous (surprised by how far back) posts: 
Ok, I ran something I'm calling WOPR on everyone as well as the 2 season conference wins average thingy... I don't remember what WOPR was supposed to stand for (weighted overall something or other). It takes the average OVR rating of JRs multiplied by 3 plus the average of SOs multiplied by 2 plus the average of FRs unmodified. This allows for an allowance for IQ and bases relative future strength on the rosters of the teams instead of past performance. However, it has numerous flaws of its own. It doesn't account for incoming freshmen. It includes walk-ons (it doesn't have to, I just didn't think to exclude them until after some had gotten through and I didn't feel like re-doing them all). It is based on OVR, which is not exactly a correlation with real performance. It fails to account for possible future transfers or jucos. But it probably does a better job than the last 2 conference wins average.  
 
I have modified the WOPR formula so that it now takes into account the number of each class returning, rather than just providing an average value for that class. I feel this will more accurately reflect team strength. This resulted in a new order for the WOPR. I'll post the new RWOPR rankings, and conferences can decide to use the new, the old or something else entirely. Starting next season I'll only be providing the new RWOPR. Keep in mind that the RWOPR isan average of the OVR values of current classes, multiplied by a value based upon class (3 for current juniors, 2 for current sophomores). In the past this value was then divided by the number of players in the class, so basically one 700 rated junior counted as heavily as if a team had 4 700 rated juniors. This new formula should help correct that, and it gives weight to teams that return more players. However, it is still based on OVR (not the best way to value a player), obviously gives no value to incoming freshmen (since I have no idea what they will be) and does not take into account the value of the coach of the team. I suspect that if a conference gets together and physically ranks next season's team's on their own by looking at them and factoring in those things my formula does not that they would achieve a more accurate prediction of relative power, but in the absence of that I think this revised formula will do a better job than the current one.
2/26/2014 10:15 PM
That sounds very interesting. I think it has great potential as you say even flawed it is a phenominal idea. I commend you on figuring out how to make it work. 
2/27/2014 10:55 PM
Posted by obituaryconc on 2/26/2014 10:15:00 PM (view original):
That sounds very interesting. I think it has great potential as you say even flawed it is a phenominal idea. I commend you on figuring out how to make it work. 
I have been working on it some more. troll through my CCs older comments for my lengthy diatribe
2/27/2014 10:57 PM
decided to report that CC stuff here...

2/23
12:59 PM
dacj501   SO, I'm experimenting with a couple WOPR options...the first thing I tried was just tweaking WOPR again. First I ditched WE and DUR. Then I assigned numeric values to FT letter grades. Then I added back a percentage of WE based on class (high WE ...
2/23
12:59 PM
dacj501   ...isn't as valuable an attribute for a senior as a sophomore). I ran this new formula for us and the CAA to get a feel for a comparison. Our 12 ranked exactly the same, while the CAA 3 and 4 swapped places (but they are within a few points of each ...
2/23
12:59 PM
dacj501   ...other either way)...basically I'm not sure if I really gained anything with that modification. Maybe because most teams have (I'm guessing) a similar average value when FT letters are converted to grades and because DUR is only 1 of 11 or 12 ...
2/23
12:59 PM
dacj501   ...attributes...So, then I though about trying to do something with the player roles thing. SO I started with the 'stock' formulas, then tweaked them to normalize STA for all positions, then added a .1 multiplier for my FTS value (bringing the ...
2/23
12:59 PM
dacj501   ...'total' multipliers to 1.2 instead of 1.0 (or 120% instead of 100) but that all gets taken care of in the averaging... I'm stuck now though as my thinking is to then take these modified player role ratings and multiple them by a class modifier ...
2/23
12:59 PM
dacj501   ...(current freshmen have more room to grow than current juniors) then pluck the best value at each position and call them the projected starters, then take the best backup big, little and SF for an 8 man "lineup" - weighting the starters ...
2/23
12:59 PM
dacj501   ...values more heavily of course. Then I can compare these values for the lineups. I have a couple problems. The first is that I don't know how to make a spreadsheet choose the best player for just one position if that player is the highest rated ...
2/23
12:59 PM
dacj501   ...player at multiple positions. Also, this combined roster value will work best with teams that return 8 or more players, and while that's probably more than half its far from all. Anyone still awake after reading this have any thoughts?
3/20/2014 5:49 AM
RWOPR: MUSDUC VIII

CCAA CENTRAL GLIAC HEARTLAND LONE STAR NCIA
DOM HILLS BOWIE ST GVSU ROCKHURST NORTHEASTERN ST MSU, MANKATO
POMONA ST AUGUSTINE'S FERRIS ST MONTEVALLO MIDWESTERN ST N COLORADO
SF ST ST PAUL'S NORTHWOOD LINCOLN TAMU, COMMERCE UP, JOHNSTOWN
CSULA FAYETTEVILLE ST MICH TECH INCARNATE WORD TARLETON ST OAKLAND CITY
SAN DIEGO NC CENTRAL FINDLAY N ALABAMA TAMU, KINGSVILLE N DAKOTA ST
DAVIS VIRGINIA UNION LAKE SUPERIOR ST ST MARY'S SW OKLAHOMA ST NEBRASKA, OMAHA
  VIRGINIA ST   VALDOSTA ST E CENTRAL  
  ECSU   ST EDWARD'S    
  WSSU   DRURY    
      OPSU    
      W ALABAMA    
      W FLORIDA    
3/20/2014 5:52 AM
RWOPR VALUES, ALL TEAMS: MUSDUC VIII

13200 MSU, MANKATO NCIA
13027 N COLORADO NCIA
12697 NORTHEASTERN ST LONE STAR
12298 ROCKHURST HEARTLAND
12294 BOWIE ST CENTRAL
12163 ST AUGUSTINE'S CENTRAL
12097 GVSU GLIAC
12079 ST PAUL'S CENTRAL
12009 UP, JOHNSTOWN NCIA
11994 OAKLAND CITY NCIA
11825 MONTEVALLO HEARTLAND
11199 FAYETTEVILLE ST CENTRAL
11198 DOM HILLS CCAA
11185 LINCOLN HEARTLAND
11119 FERRIS ST GLIAC
11042 NORTHWOOD GLIAC
11018 NC CENTRAL CENTRAL
10978 MIDWESTERN ST LONE STAR
10954 INCARNATE WORD HEARTLAND
10916 N ALABAMA HEARTLAND
10902 MICH TECH GLIAC
10866 POMONA CCAA
10729 TAMU, COMMERCE LONE STAR
10451 VIRGINIIA UNION CENTRAL
10385 SF ST CCAA
10244 N DAKOTA ST NCIA
10120 TARLETON ST LONE STAR
10012 VIRGINIA ST CENTRAL
9930 ST MARY'S HEARTLAND
9795 TAMU, KINGSVILLE LONE STAR
9690 VALDOSTA ST HEARTLAND
9622 ST EDWARD'S HEARTLAND
9334 DRURY HEARTLAND
9198 CSULA CCAA
9166 FINDLAY GLIAC
8952 ECSU CENTRAL
8880 OPSU HEARTLAND
8773 W ALABAMA HEARTLAND
8148 NEBRASKA, OMAHA NCIA
7960 SW OKLAHOMA ST LONE STAR
7766 WSSU CENTRAL
7331 W FLORIDA HEARTLAND
7258 SAN DIEGO CCAA
7169 DAVIS CCAA
5374 E CENTRAL LONE STAR
3/20/2014 5:57 AM (edited)
I posted this on the Heartland CC prior to the championship game...

3/07
3:30 PM
dacj501   Tonight, two MUSDUC veterans meet for the Season 69 Knight World Division 2 National Championship. The California Collegiate Athletic Association's Grand Canyon Antelopes out of Phoenix, Arizona face off against the Oilers of the University of ...
3/07
3:30 PM
dacj501   ...Findlay, proudly representing the state of Ohio from the Great Lakes Intercollegiate Athletic Conference. Grand Canyon was undefeated in four MUSDUC tournament games as the CCAA #1 seed. Findlay, the #3 seed from the GLIAC, won three and lost one ...
3/07
3:30 PM
dacj501   ...game in their MUSDUC slate. The #2 Antelopes are lead by HD Hall of Famer craigsmith45. This is his 3rd season at the helm with the ‘Lopes, and he’s carried on that winning tradition first established over 40 seasons ago when Grand Canyon ...
3/07
3:30 PM
dacj501   ...advanced to the Sweet 16 or beyond six times in ten seasons. After a bit of a lull, they returned to prominence under coach seabreeze, winning it all back in season 53, and consistently making tourney runs ever since. The Oilers of Findlay, ...
3/07
3:30 PM
dacj501   ...Ohio come into tonight’s championship battle ranked #1 in the country. Lead by veteran Hall of Fame coach blapo21 for 16 seasons, Findlay is a legitimate Knight D2 dynasty, winning it all in season 43 under coach livetowin and reaching the final ...
3/07
3:30 PM
dacj501   ...weekend seven times since. Coach blapo21 has made it to the title game with the Oilers before in season 60, coming up short to conference foe and traditional foil (and reigning National Champs) Northwood. Tonight, the Oilers are two point ...
3/07
3:30 PM
dacj501   ...underdogs but can they return the title to the GLIAC, or will the CCAA claim the crown for the first time since that season 53 ‘Lopes title? Both teams have the talent, the drive and the desire. Who will emerge Champions?
3/25/2014 9:17 AM (edited)
Congratulations to the HEARTLAND conference, winners of MUSDUC VII
The Heartland has been oh-so-close numerous times but this is their first (of many) MUSDUC Championships!


CONFERENCE WINS LOSSES
HEARTLAND 23 7
CENTRAL 21 7
LONE STAR 15 15
CAL CAA 12 17
RM/NC 10 19
GLIAC 6 24
3/28/2014 1:31 AM (edited)
      WEEK    
SCHEDULE 3 4 5 6 7
DOMINGUEZ HILLS N DAKOTA ST @TAMU, COMMERCE MONTEVALLO GRAND VALLEY ST @BOWIE ST
SAN FRANCISCO ST @OAKLAND CITY TAMU, KINGSVILLE @ROCKHURST @FERRIS ST ST. AUGUSTINE'S
CSU, LOS ANGELES N COLORADO @NORTHEASTERN ST ST. MARY'S NORTHWOOD @FAYETTEVILLE ST
CSU, STANISLAUS @MSU, MANKATO SW OKLAHOMA ST @N ALABAMA @MICHIGAN TECH NC CENTRAL
UC, SAN DIEGO UP, JOHNSTOWN @MIDWESTERN ST INCARNATE WORD FINDLAY @VIRGINIA UNION
CAL, DAVIS @NEBRASKA, OMAHA TARLETON ST @LINCOLN @LAKE SUPERIOR ST VIRGINIA ST
BOWIE ST GRAND VALLEY ST @INCARNATE WORD OAKLAND CITY @MIDWESTERN ST DOMINGUEZ HILLS
ST. AUGUSTINE'S @FERRIS ST LINCOLN @NEBRASKA, OMAHA NORTHEASTERN ST @SAN FRANCISCO ST
FAYETTEVILLE ST NORTHWOOD @MONTEVALLO MSU, MANKATO @SW OKLAHOMA ST CSU, LOS ANGELES
NC CENTRAL @MICHIGAN TECH ROCKHURST @UP, JOHNSTOWN TAMU, KINGSVILLE @CSU, STANISLAUS
VIRGINIA UNION FINDLAY @ST. MARY'S N COLORADO @TARLETON ST UC, SAN DIEGO
VIRGINIA ST @LAKE SUPERIOR ST N ALABAMA @N DAKOTA ST TAMU, COMMERCE @CAL, DAVIS
GRAND VALLEY ST @BOWIE ST @N COLORADO TARLETON ST @DOMINGUEZ HILLS LINCOLN
FERRIS ST ST. AUGUSTINE'S MSU, MANKATO @TAMU, COMMERCE SAN FRANCISCO ST @N ALABAMA
NORTHWOOD @FAYETTEVILLE ST @UP, JOHNSTOWN MIDWESTERN ST @CSU, LOS ANGELES ROCKHURST
MICHIGAN TECH NC CENTRAL NEBRASKA, OMAHA @NORTHEASTERN ST CSU, STANISLAUS @ST. MARY'S
FINDLAY @VIRGINIA UNION @N DAKOTA ST SW OKLAHOMA ST @UC, SAN DIEGO MONTEVALLO
LAKE SUPERIOR ST VIRGINIA ST OAKLAND CITY @TAMU, KINGSVILLE CAL, DAVIS @INCARNATE WORD
ROCKHURST NORTHEASTERN ST @NC CENTRAL SAN FRANCISCO ST @MSU, MANKATO @NORTHWOOD
MONTEVALLO @MIDWESTERN ST FAYETTEVILLE ST @DOMINGUEZ HILLS N COLORADO @FINDLAY
LINCOLN TAMU, COMMERCE @ST. AUGUSTINE'S CAL, DAVIS @OAKLAND CITY @GRAND VALLEY ST
INCARNATE WORD @TARLETON ST BOWIE ST @UC, SAN DIEGO N DAKOTA ST LAKE SUPERIOR ST
N ALABAMA TAMU, KINGSVILLE @VIRGINIA ST CSU, STANISLAUS @NEBRASKA, OMAHA FERRIS ST
ST. MARY'S @SW OKLAHOMA ST VIRGINIA UNION @CSU, LOS ANGELES UP, JOHNSTOWN MICHIGAN TECH
NORTHEASTERN ST @ROCKHURST CSU, LOS ANGELES MICHIGAN TECH @ST. AUGUSTINE'S MSU, MANKATO
MIDWESTERN ST MONTEVALLO UC, SAN DIEGO @NORTHWOOD BOWIE ST @N COLORADO
TAMU, COMMERCE @LINCOLN DOMINGUEZ HILLS FERRIS ST @VIRGINIA ST OAKLAND CITY
TARLETON ST INCARNATE WORD @CAL, DAVIS @GRAND VALLEY ST VIRGINIA UNION @N DAKOTA ST
TAMU, KINGSVILLE @N ALABAMA @SAN FRANCISCO ST LAKE SUPERIOR ST @NC CENTRAL NEBRASKA, OMAHA
SW OKLAHOMA ST ST. MARY'S @CSU, STANISLAUS @FINDLAY FAYETTEVILLE ST @UP, JOHNSTOWN
MSU, MANKATO CSU, STANISLAUS @FERRIS ST @FAYETTEVILLE ST ROCKHURST @NORTHEASTERN ST
N COLORADO @CSU, LOS ANGELES GRAND VALLEY ST @VIRGINIA UNION @MONTEVALLO MIDWESTERN ST
OAKLAND CITY SAN FRANCISCO ST @LAKE SUPERIOR ST @BOWIE ST LINCOLN @TAMU, COMMERCE
N DAKOTA ST @DOMINGUEZ HILLS FINDLAY VIRGINIA ST @INCARNATE WORD TARLETON ST
NEBRASKA, OMAHA CAL, DAVIS @MICHIGAN TECH ST. AUGUSTINE'S N ALABAMA @TAMU, KINGSVILLE
UP, JOHNSTOWN @UC, SAN DIEGO NORTHWOOD NC CENTRAL @ST. MARY'S SW OKLAHOMA ST
  3 4 5 6 7
      Week    
3/27/2014 8:07 PM
Hey dac, I'm confused with the scheduling for my team, virginia Union. On my listing it says my game 2, week 4, game is against St. Mary's at their place. I just got a game request from Michigan Tech for game 2, week 4, so I checked their schedule and I am listed in that spot for them.

I see Nebraska, Omaha also has michigan tech in game 2, week 4. St Mary's has me slotted in the game 2 slot. I'm assuming then that the correct game for me is the st Mary's game but can you double check before I accept the challenges

Thanks
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