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7/25/2013 10:01 PM
I voted!
7/25/2013 10:56 PM
I have voted as well.
7/26/2013 7:57 AM
slut me out lets do this!
7/26/2013 10:42 AM
I have voted.  Poorly, I'm sure, but nonetheless.
7/26/2013 11:08 AM
My voice has been heard.  
7/26/2013 12:40 PM
I don't care...I love it....I don't care....I love it...(to the tune of Icona Pop)
8/1/2013 1:21 PM
Assuming a revised 6 conference Challenge and a 5 game commitment:

Should the conference that finishes in last place be relegated out and let another conference in? If that were the case scheduling would need to wait til after the Challenge games are all played obviously...
 
No, keep the original conferences unless personnel changes make it necessary for a change
 
38%
 
Sure, keeps it interesting and gives other conferences a chance to get interested and take part.
 
62%
Some other possibility dacj501 failed to consider in his infinite ignorance... (details below)
 
0%



A couple of different seeding suggestions have been put forth.

How should teams be seeded for the MUSDUC?
 
Use the average of the conference record of each team from the preceding 2 seasons (CAA-Heartland method)
 
38%
 
Allow each conference to determine their own seeding based on their own methods, with one representative coach acting as "commissioner"
 
34%
 
Base the seeds on a formula that examines the current OVR and class of each team (the DAC Snowball method)
 
25%
Sort the teams alphabetically (the victorzhao method!)
 
3%
 
Something else (if you vote for this and fail to leave details below I will bring a pox upon your house...)
 
0%
 
 
 

 
If seeding results in a rematch of games from the previous season should teams be slid up or down a slot to avoid rematches?     
 
Yes, rematches are no fun, I want to play someone new
 
3%
 
No, rematches are fine and can help foster friendly rivalries
 
97%
 
 
 
8/1/2013 1:22 PM
Locked the polls at 13:20 EDT. We have a quorum and we have winners in all categories. I will seed and update shortly.
8/1/2013 3:50 PM
Here are the seeds from all participating conferences. I seeded everyone who said they wanted in, and took the top 6 from each conference for the Challenge. 



SEED/CONF-TEAM CCAA CENTRAL GLIAC HEARTLAND LONE STAR NORTH AMERICAN
1 CAL, DAVIS (13) N CAROLINA CENTRAL (12.5) GRAND VALLEY ST (15) INCARNATE WORD (12.5) TAMU, COMMERCE (13.5) STONEHILL (13.5)
2 CSU, LOS ANGELES (13) BOWIE ST (12.5) FINDLAY (14) W FLORIDA (12) TAMU, KINGSVILLE (12.5) CENTRAL ST (13.5)
3 DOMINGUEZ HILLS (11.5) VIRGINIA UNION (12) NORTHWOOD (14) DRURY (12) NORTHEASTERN ST (12) WEST CHESTER (11)
4 SAN FRANCISCO ST (10.5) SHAW (11) N MICHIGAN (10) MONTEVALLO (10.5) TARLETON ST (9) SLIPPERY ROCK (9)
5 CSU, BAKERSFIELD (10) FAYETTEVILLE ST (9.5) MICHIGAN TECH (7.5) VALDOSTA ST (9)
E CENTRAL (7.5) S NEW HAMPSHIRE (8.5)
6 UC, SAN DIEGO (8) WINSTON-SALEM ST (9.5) FERRIS ST (6) ST EDWARD'S (5.5) SW OKLAHOMA ST (6.5) W VIRGINIA WESLEYAN 7.5)
x GRAND CANYON (7.5) ST AUGUSTINE'S (9.5) WAYNE ST (2.5) W ALABAMA (2)
TIFFIN (5)
x SONOMA ST (7) JOHNSON C SMITH (8)


ALASKA, ANCHORAGE (3.5)
x CAL POLY POMONA (6) LIVINGSTONE (3)



x CSU, STANISLAUS (4.5) ELIZABETH CITY ST (2)



8/1/2013 5:32 PM
SPOT #1:
Cal, Davis @ Stonehill
N Carolina Central @ TAMU, Commerce
Incarnate Word @ Grand Valley St

Central St @ CSU, Los Angeles
TAMU, Kingsville @ Bowie St
Findlay @ W Florida

CSU, Dominguez HIlls @ West Chester
Virginia Union @ Northeastern St
Drury @ Northwood

Slippery Rock @ San Francisco St
Tarleton St @ Shaw
N Michigan @ Montevallo

S New Hampshire @ CSU, Bakersfield
Fayetteville St @ E Central
Valdosta St @ Michigan Tech

UC, San Diego @ W Virginia Wesleyan 
SW Oklahoma St @ Winston-Salem St
Ferris St @ St Edward's

SPOT #2
TAMU, Commerce @ Cal, Davis
N Carolina Central @ Incarnate Word
Stonehill @ Grand Valley St

CSU, Los Angeles @ TAMU, Kingsville
W Florida @ Bowie St
Findlay @ Central St

Northeastern St @ CSU, Dominguez Hills
Virginia Union @ Drury
West Chester (PA) @ Northwood

San Francisco St @ Tarleton St
Montevallo @ Shaw
N Michigan @ Slippery Rock

E Central @ CSU, Bakersfield
Fayetteville St @ Valdosta St
S New Hampshire @ Michigan Tech

UC, San Diego @ SW Oklahoma St
St Edward's @ Winston-Salem St
Ferris St @ W Virginia Wesleyan

SPOT #3
Cal, Davis @ Incarnate Word
Grand Valley St @ N Carolina Central
Stonehill @ TAMU, Commerce

W Florida @ CSU, Los Angeles
Bowie St @ Findlay
TAMU, Kingsville @ Central St

CSU, Dominguez Hills @ Drury
Northwood @ Virginia Union
West Chester (PA) @ Northeastern St

Montevallo @ San Francisco St
Shaw @ N Michigan
Tarleton St @ Slippery Rock

CSU, Bakersfield @ Valdosta St
Michigan Tech @ Fayetteville St
S New Hampshire @ E Central

St Edward's @ UC, San Diego
Winston-Salem St @ Ferris St
SW Oklahoma St @ W Virginia Wesleyan

SPOT #4
Grand Valley St @ Cal, Davis
TAMU, Commerce @ Incarnate Word
N Carolina Central @ Stonehill

CSU, Los Angeles @ Findlay
W Florida @ TAMU, Kingsville
Central St @ Bowie St

Northwood @ CSU, Dominguez Hills
Northeastern St @ Drury
Virginia Union @ West Chester (PA)

San Francisco St @ N Michigan
Montevallo @ Tarleton St
Slippery Rock @ Shaw

Michigan Tech @ CSU, Bakersfield
E Central @ Valdosta St
Fayetteville St @ S New Hampshire

UC, San Diego @ Ferris St
St Edward's @ SW Oklahoma St
W Virginia Wesleyan @ Winston-Salem St

SPOT #5
Cal, Davis @ N Carolina Central
Grand Valley St @ TAMU, Commerce
Incarnate Word @ Stonehill

Bowie St @ CSU, Los Angeles
TAMU, Kingsville @ Findlay
Central St @ W Florida

CSU, Dominguez Hills @ Virginia Union
Northwood @ Northeastern St
Drury @ West Chester (PA)

Shaw @ San Francisco St
Tarleton St @ N Michigan
Slippery Rock @ Montevallo

CSU, Bakersfield @ Fayetteville St
Michigan Tech @ E Central 
Valdosta St @ S New Hampshire

Winston-Salem St @ UC, San Diego
SW Oklahoma St @ Ferris St
W Virginia Wesleyan @ St Edward's



8/2/2013 1:03 PM

All my games have been submitted for acceptance. 

Thanks for setting this up!

8/10/2013 8:19 AM
All but one of my games have been scheduled, just waiting on the last coach to accept the challenge.
8/28/2013 10:18 PM
All games are scheduled. Inaugural MUSDUC kicks off next season Good Luck everyone!
8/28/2013 10:29 PM
Ok, I believe we have the Penn St and the Southern interested in joining next season. I suppose it is now time to discuss how to handle relegation.

I propose the following base rule and then some options: The 6th place conference after results are tallied will face relegation out of next season's MUSDUC if there are any eligible conferences waiting to participate, UNLESS another currently participating conference fails to submit 6 qualified teams/coaches, in which case waiting list conferences will be used to replace the no longer eligible conference. If there are still waiting list conferences and the 6th place finisher has not already been demoted due to eligibility, then the 6th place conference is relegated.

Now, there are a number of options when deciding how to select the replacement conference if more than one are interested and qualified. 

1. First come, first served. The conferences will enter the next challenge either as replacements for ineligible conferences or to replace the 6th place finisher in the order that they notified me they were interested and qualified. 

2. Some kind of mini-tourney to determine the winner. This might mean a 2 season turn around for coming and going and might be a pain in the *** to coordinate, but it could also be kinda fun, and it also guarantees some decent non conference match-ups for teams not in the challenge.

3. Compare the head to head winning percentage of games played between waiting list conferences. I think most of us play enough other teams that there would surely be some games to look at for this. 

4. Lady Luck. Randomly determine which qualified conference(s) get to move up.

5. ? Anything else I've not thought of??
8/29/2013 6:23 AM
I vote leaving it up the the commissioner (you). You have put all the time into this, so I'm comfortable with you deciding however you want.
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