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8/1/2013 4:09 PM
Eh - that's a little simplistic Nate. It's pretty clear that if your best 19600 minutes cost 46 mil and your opponents best 19600 cost 50 mil you're at a disadvantage. Salary is obviously not the end-all, be-all but it's a solid enough gauge of a team's ability. I agree your team can still be better than teams with fewer minutes that aren't well put together, the problem is that plenty of other owners will have well-built teams that pack more bang for the buck than yours. That's your problem.
8/1/2013 6:09 PM
Posted by vancem on 8/1/2013 2:45:00 PM (view original):
Hi nate. I am listening but I have another question. In this league how can a team with 22K minutes drafted end up with a winning record? I don't think that 's a feat that has ever been done before.
The only 'ship I won was with 22k minutes drafted.
8/1/2013 6:11 PM
You tend to draft a lot of partial season guys right ash? When I started in the 52 mil draft I was told Quality mattered more than quantity in the 52 mil draft.. Thus why Bill Walton gets drafted so high. The surcharge on higher minute guys really throws these calculations off.

Now clearly a team with Wilt is going to have lower minutes usually.. because his gigantic salary leads to that.. unless you are natenoy that is.
8/1/2013 6:29 PM (edited)
My Wilt team had 19800 minutes drafted, I was in a salary crunch and had to use I think four or five nearly min salary seasons.

That being said, I think it can be done with 22k but it's a challenge. I had some very high minute expensive parts around Wilt.
8/1/2013 6:27 PM
nate you coulda just waited to use wilt in the odl!!! Ouch sry.
8/1/2013 7:43 PM
Posted by badja on 8/1/2013 6:27:00 PM (view original):
nate you coulda just waited to use wilt in the odl!!! Ouch sry.
Badja,

My takeaway from this ODL is learning the floor for assists in the sim, a mistake I'll NEVER make again.
8/1/2013 7:46 PM
Posted by tarheel1991 on 8/1/2013 4:09:00 PM (view original):
Eh - that's a little simplistic Nate. It's pretty clear that if your best 19600 minutes cost 46 mil and your opponents best 19600 cost 50 mil you're at a disadvantage. Salary is obviously not the end-all, be-all but it's a solid enough gauge of a team's ability. I agree your team can still be better than teams with fewer minutes that aren't well put together, the problem is that plenty of other owners will have well-built teams that pack more bang for the buck than yours. That's your problem.
Point well taken tar. However my point is that having excess minutes is not the kiss of death per se in this league.
8/1/2013 10:54 PM
Now ash you beat the late great 98average in that finals so it doesn't surprise me at all the your 22K minute team won that one. Where are the old man's power rankings??? I actually like his draft this time better than last season when he lost all of those bets lol. I didn't love the Kirilenko pick but the team defense is pretty awesome. Moses and Mourning will crush inside. Moses IMO is really the second fiddle offensively in this league on a title contender.
8/1/2013 11:03 PM
Here we go kids

Name Team Pos Usage% 2pt%# 3pt%# eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk%
Stephen Curry 12-13 Warriors PG 26.4 44.7 45.1 54.9 2.1 8.7 22.9 1.9 0.2
Gerald Wallace 05-06 Bobcats SF 19.4 56.2 27.8 55 6.6 18.1 6.8 3.3 3.8
Charles Barkley 87-88 76ers PF 26.7 62.6 28.5 60.4 13.5 20 9.9 1.4 1.8
Reggie Evans 12-13 Nets PF 11.1 47.7 0 47.9 14.6 35.7 3 1.8 0.4
Mel Daniels 70-71 Pacers C 21.3 52.1 7.8 51.5 13.2 27.8 6 1.2 3.5
Joel Przybilla 08-09 Trail Blazers C 10.2 62.5 0 62.5 11.9 30.6 1.8 0.9 3.1
Mark Price 93-94 Cavaliers PG 24.6 50.9 40 53.6 1.8 8.7 31.4 1.9 0.3

8/1/2013 11:24 PM
Interesting squad malone.  Great rebounding, great efg%, but seems light on ast% (unless you're starting Price instead of Wallace) and maybe def.
8/1/2013 11:37 PM
Starting Price, Curry, Barkley, Evans, and Daniels because defense obviously doesn't matter...lol

I went with the 1900 minute 100 D Wallace off the bench for the added efficiency and Przybamznbvauery49wfanls;zadsx for covering PF and C minutes.  My extra guys are going to be fun and interesting.
8/2/2013 9:28 AM
Name Team Pos Usage% 2pt%# 3pt%# eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk% D
Jason Terry 04-05 Mavericks PG 18 54.1 41.9 57 1.7 6.5 23.1 2 0.4 60
Chris Mullin 89-90 Warriors SF 24.8 57 37.5 57 4.9 11.3 12.7 1.7 0.8 58
Donyell Marshall 03-04 Raptors SF 19.9 50.3 40.3 53.5 7.6 22.4 5.5 1.5 2.5 86
Marcus Camby 07-08 Nuggets C 13.2 45.3 29.8 45.5 9 29.7 11.4 1.3 5.7 91
Shaquille O'Neal 99-00 Lakers C 31.2 57.6 0 57.4 11.4 23.3 11.9 0.5 4.4 80
Jamaal Tinsley 03-04 Pacers PG 17.6 47 37.2 51.8 2.3 8.8 31.6 3 0.8 82
Andrew Bogut 09-10 Bucks C 23.4 51.7 0 52 9.4 25.3 7.5 0.8 4.9 75
8/2/2013 9:35 AM
Posted by natenoy on 8/1/2013 7:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by badja on 8/1/2013 6:27:00 PM (view original):
nate you coulda just waited to use wilt in the odl!!! Ouch sry.
Badja,

My takeaway from this ODL is learning the floor for assists in the sim, a mistake I'll NEVER make again.
BTW Nate, I hope you still plan on breaking down stats, etc.  I find that insight helpful.  The problem is that many stats don't mean squat in the sim.  We need to figure out which ones are the most important (eFG, rebounding, tov, etc.) 
8/2/2013 11:16 AM
Nothing too scary here.  eFG doens't make up for lack of defense.  I'd say about a 45 win team if I'm in the right division.




Name Usage% 2pt%# 3pt%# eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk%  
Scottie Pippen 26.3 51.9 34.3 52.2 6.5 17.6 16.9 3.5 1.8 96
Blake Griffin 25.6 54.6 17.7 54.1 8.2 20.3 14.4 1.7 1.2 46
Arvydas Sabonis 25.5 57.1 37.2 57.2 9.3 27.2 9.8 1.7 2.7 53
Andrew Bynum 23.9 56 28.6 55.8 10.1 24.5 5.3 0.6 3.1 59
Emeka Okafor 19.5 53 0 53.2 12.2 25.1 4.7 1.1 4.6 71
John Stockton 18.9 57.6 44.7 60.7 2.5 7.8 42.9 3.1 0.5 80
Kosta Koufos 14.1 59.9 0 59.9 13.6 21.8 2.4 1.4 3 60

8/2/2013 5:33 PM
Well nate I play tested your team's projected roster against my team's projected roster. Your team surprised me by winning 4 out of 14 games. That projects out to about 24 wins on the season for you. Granted my team should be one of the better ones so I'll will forecast up to 35 wins for your team. What do you think?
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