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8/5/2013 1:28 PM
So to prevent screwing over people who are paying into Social Security now who may not be able to be paid by the system later, we should screw over the people who paid into it their entire working lives by stopping paying them and telling them "I don't care if you're 80 or 90 and plenty of young, college-educated people can't find jobs right now.  You have a year to start making money again."

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8/5/2013 1:32 PM
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 1:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 12:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 10:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 10:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/4/2013 5:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/4/2013 5:06:00 PM (view original):
You don't think we spend too much on defense?
I'd rather spend too much than too little.
False choice.

There's a third option, the right amount.
lets take it from social programs. no more getting paid bc you managed to have ten kids you cant afford.
Only 12 percent of the budget goes to social safety net programs. 43 percent goes to social security and medicare. So...it's not young people having babies that's eating up all the budget, it's retired folks. Time to murder anyone over 65.
social security and medicare are BS too. they run america into the ground financally. plus they wont be there for young ppl who right now are paying in to what is a giant hole that just sucks up their money. i don't think we need to kill ppl over 65. just cut off the programs where they are right now. give ppl a warning grace period of say a year and say that's the end of the line you get nothing after that. it never happen bc there are too many old ppl and younger ones who care for them who would whine and complain. and really thats what its all about in american anymore just whine and complain and be a little ***** and hope it helps you get your way. the ppl who really get screwed over are the young working ppl who do not earn large salary. they will never get to retire bc govt wont be there and they dont make enough on their own. the welfare ppl will be fine bc they can just keep going forever but the working poor are screwed and they deserve to get more than the welfare ppl.
Why not kill people over 65? That seemed like a good solution to the babies-out-of-wedlock problem.
8/5/2013 1:44 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 8/5/2013 1:28:00 PM (view original):
So to prevent screwing over people who are paying into Social Security now who may not be able to be paid by the system later, we should screw over the people who paid into it their entire working lives by stopping paying them and telling them "I don't care if you're 80 or 90 and plenty of young, college-educated people can't find jobs right now.  You have a year to start making money again."

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fine make sociail security optional then. tell ppl you cant take out of it unless you agree to stay in it, but if you want, you can stop paying in as long as you put the same amount into a retirement plan of your own - you dont just get money in pocket. the old ppl get to stay on and are funded by the ppl who stay in the program. those ppl who are young and will be screwed or anyone else who wants out can get out and not have to donate money theyll never see again.  problem solved no one gets screwed.
8/5/2013 1:46 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 1:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 1:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 12:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 10:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 10:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/4/2013 5:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/4/2013 5:06:00 PM (view original):
You don't think we spend too much on defense?
I'd rather spend too much than too little.
False choice.

There's a third option, the right amount.
lets take it from social programs. no more getting paid bc you managed to have ten kids you cant afford.
Only 12 percent of the budget goes to social safety net programs. 43 percent goes to social security and medicare. So...it's not young people having babies that's eating up all the budget, it's retired folks. Time to murder anyone over 65.
social security and medicare are BS too. they run america into the ground financally. plus they wont be there for young ppl who right now are paying in to what is a giant hole that just sucks up their money. i don't think we need to kill ppl over 65. just cut off the programs where they are right now. give ppl a warning grace period of say a year and say that's the end of the line you get nothing after that. it never happen bc there are too many old ppl and younger ones who care for them who would whine and complain. and really thats what its all about in american anymore just whine and complain and be a little ***** and hope it helps you get your way. the ppl who really get screwed over are the young working ppl who do not earn large salary. they will never get to retire bc govt wont be there and they dont make enough on their own. the welfare ppl will be fine bc they can just keep going forever but the working poor are screwed and they deserve to get more than the welfare ppl.
Why not kill people over 65? That seemed like a good solution to the babies-out-of-wedlock problem.
there was no talk of babies out of wedlock. it was about babies ppl cant afford numbskull. and now you agree with the idea?
8/5/2013 1:48 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 1:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 1:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 12:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 10:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 10:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/4/2013 5:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/4/2013 5:06:00 PM (view original):
You don't think we spend too much on defense?
I'd rather spend too much than too little.
False choice.

There's a third option, the right amount.
lets take it from social programs. no more getting paid bc you managed to have ten kids you cant afford.
Only 12 percent of the budget goes to social safety net programs. 43 percent goes to social security and medicare. So...it's not young people having babies that's eating up all the budget, it's retired folks. Time to murder anyone over 65.
social security and medicare are BS too. they run america into the ground financally. plus they wont be there for young ppl who right now are paying in to what is a giant hole that just sucks up their money. i don't think we need to kill ppl over 65. just cut off the programs where they are right now. give ppl a warning grace period of say a year and say that's the end of the line you get nothing after that. it never happen bc there are too many old ppl and younger ones who care for them who would whine and complain. and really thats what its all about in american anymore just whine and complain and be a little ***** and hope it helps you get your way. the ppl who really get screwed over are the young working ppl who do not earn large salary. they will never get to retire bc govt wont be there and they dont make enough on their own. the welfare ppl will be fine bc they can just keep going forever but the working poor are screwed and they deserve to get more than the welfare ppl.
Why not kill people over 65? That seemed like a good solution to the babies-out-of-wedlock problem.
We don't necessarily have to kill them.   Just stop trying so hard to keep them alive.   Old people will die natural deaths eventually. 
8/5/2013 2:03 PM
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 1:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 1:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 1:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 12:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 10:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 10:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/4/2013 5:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/4/2013 5:06:00 PM (view original):
You don't think we spend too much on defense?
I'd rather spend too much than too little.
False choice.

There's a third option, the right amount.
lets take it from social programs. no more getting paid bc you managed to have ten kids you cant afford.
Only 12 percent of the budget goes to social safety net programs. 43 percent goes to social security and medicare. So...it's not young people having babies that's eating up all the budget, it's retired folks. Time to murder anyone over 65.
social security and medicare are BS too. they run america into the ground financally. plus they wont be there for young ppl who right now are paying in to what is a giant hole that just sucks up their money. i don't think we need to kill ppl over 65. just cut off the programs where they are right now. give ppl a warning grace period of say a year and say that's the end of the line you get nothing after that. it never happen bc there are too many old ppl and younger ones who care for them who would whine and complain. and really thats what its all about in american anymore just whine and complain and be a little ***** and hope it helps you get your way. the ppl who really get screwed over are the young working ppl who do not earn large salary. they will never get to retire bc govt wont be there and they dont make enough on their own. the welfare ppl will be fine bc they can just keep going forever but the working poor are screwed and they deserve to get more than the welfare ppl.
Why not kill people over 65? That seemed like a good solution to the babies-out-of-wedlock problem.
there was no talk of babies out of wedlock. it was about babies ppl cant afford numbskull. and now you agree with the idea?
Of course. I think we should kill everyone making less than $300,000 a year, also. That way we don't have to worry about the government "taking care" of anyone.
8/5/2013 2:58 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 2:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 1:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 1:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 1:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 12:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 10:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/5/2013 10:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/4/2013 5:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/4/2013 5:06:00 PM (view original):
You don't think we spend too much on defense?
I'd rather spend too much than too little.
False choice.

There's a third option, the right amount.
lets take it from social programs. no more getting paid bc you managed to have ten kids you cant afford.
Only 12 percent of the budget goes to social safety net programs. 43 percent goes to social security and medicare. So...it's not young people having babies that's eating up all the budget, it's retired folks. Time to murder anyone over 65.
social security and medicare are BS too. they run america into the ground financally. plus they wont be there for young ppl who right now are paying in to what is a giant hole that just sucks up their money. i don't think we need to kill ppl over 65. just cut off the programs where they are right now. give ppl a warning grace period of say a year and say that's the end of the line you get nothing after that. it never happen bc there are too many old ppl and younger ones who care for them who would whine and complain. and really thats what its all about in american anymore just whine and complain and be a little ***** and hope it helps you get your way. the ppl who really get screwed over are the young working ppl who do not earn large salary. they will never get to retire bc govt wont be there and they dont make enough on their own. the welfare ppl will be fine bc they can just keep going forever but the working poor are screwed and they deserve to get more than the welfare ppl.
Why not kill people over 65? That seemed like a good solution to the babies-out-of-wedlock problem.
there was no talk of babies out of wedlock. it was about babies ppl cant afford numbskull. and now you agree with the idea?
Of course. I think we should kill everyone making less than $300,000 a year, also. That way we don't have to worry about the government "taking care" of anyone.
stop taking a good idea to the extreme bc you cant find anything wrong with it as it is. easiest way to handle situation is actually just abortion. wait I said that word now it will bring a **** storm of crazy ppl to the thread to rant about that now. just watch.
8/5/2013 3:11 PM
Except they won't be liberal anymore, right?

You don't have to take your idea "to the extreme" to find something wrong with it.  Killing innocent people has plenty of problems without exacerbating them.

8/5/2013 3:24 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 8/5/2013 3:11:00 PM (view original):
Except they won't be liberal anymore, right?

You don't have to take your idea "to the extreme" to find something wrong with it.  Killing innocent people has plenty of problems without exacerbating them.

except he DID take the idea to the extreme by suggesting killing anyone who does not make $300,000 a year. yes, you have to do that kind of thing to fine something wrong with the idea. i also never said to kill innocent ppl. I said we should eliminate ppl who cause problems like those who have kids they cant afford. if you know you cant afford a kid, you should not plan one, and you should not be having accidents either bc they are not hard to avoid. yet all these ppl have one accidental kid and then what do you know they get pregnant over and over again and they pay for none of them. they are terrible parents and the kids grow up causing all sorts of problems for society with bad behavior violence crimes etc. then those kids just have more kids who do the same. so cut it off at the source. eliminate the parents, and if you cant give the kid to someone who can parent it properly, then do the kid and society favor and put them out their misery too.

you think any of these ppl are innocent? do you? which ones? the mother who spreads her legs for someone without even thinking of the consequences? she could get free birth control from any number of source but doesn't use it. the father who just has sex without even putting on a condom? those can be gotten for free from a number of sources too. the kid that will grow up to create problems for all sorts of ppl bc of the lack of parenting it got so now it has issues? yeah when ppl suffer later bc of the kids violence and crimes and disrspect for authority and general bad attitude then you talk. when someone gets killed or is harmed by the kid or their actions bc they weren't parented properly, you can tell them its okay bc we had to let the kid grow up like this since we live in a liberal mamby pamby pathetic society that wont fix these types of things before they begin. you tell the loved ones of someone killed by a kid like that that its better the kid lives than their loved one bc you are a liberal ***** who is okay with that so they should be too. yeah now whose innocent here? none of them thats who.

8/5/2013 4:13 PM
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 3:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dahsdebater on 8/5/2013 3:11:00 PM (view original):
Except they won't be liberal anymore, right?

You don't have to take your idea "to the extreme" to find something wrong with it.  Killing innocent people has plenty of problems without exacerbating them.

except he DID take the idea to the extreme by suggesting killing anyone who does not make $300,000 a year. yes, you have to do that kind of thing to fine something wrong with the idea. i also never said to kill innocent ppl. I said we should eliminate ppl who cause problems like those who have kids they cant afford. if you know you cant afford a kid, you should not plan one, and you should not be having accidents either bc they are not hard to avoid. yet all these ppl have one accidental kid and then what do you know they get pregnant over and over again and they pay for none of them. they are terrible parents and the kids grow up causing all sorts of problems for society with bad behavior violence crimes etc. then those kids just have more kids who do the same. so cut it off at the source. eliminate the parents, and if you cant give the kid to someone who can parent it properly, then do the kid and society favor and put them out their misery too.

you think any of these ppl are innocent? do you? which ones? the mother who spreads her legs for someone without even thinking of the consequences? she could get free birth control from any number of source but doesn't use it. the father who just has sex without even putting on a condom? those can be gotten for free from a number of sources too. the kid that will grow up to create problems for all sorts of ppl bc of the lack of parenting it got so now it has issues? yeah when ppl suffer later bc of the kids violence and crimes and disrspect for authority and general bad attitude then you talk. when someone gets killed or is harmed by the kid or their actions bc they weren't parented properly, you can tell them its okay bc we had to let the kid grow up like this since we live in a liberal mamby pamby pathetic society that wont fix these types of things before they begin. you tell the loved ones of someone killed by a kid like that that its better the kid lives than their loved one bc you are a liberal ***** who is okay with that so they should be too. yeah now whose innocent here? none of them thats who.

I completely agree, but I think your rule should only apply to black ppl.
8/5/2013 4:33 PM
A) No form of birth control is 100% effective except abstinence.  Birth control pill failures lead to thousands of births per year.  Generally estimates of the failure rate of oral contraceptives are 5-8% with normal use and 0.5-1% with perfect use.  Condoms are worse.  You act like people who behave your version of responsibly will be guaranteed safe.  That's totally untrue.

B) Even if birth control were perfect, you want to kill the children too.  So at least 33% of the people you want to kill are absolutely, totally, 100% innocent no matter how you try to spin it.

8/5/2013 4:36 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 8/5/2013 4:33:00 PM (view original):
A) No form of birth control is 100% effective except abstinence.  Birth control pill failures lead to thousands of births per year.  Generally estimates of the failure rate of oral contraceptives are 5-8% with normal use and 0.5-1% with perfect use.  Condoms are worse.  You act like people who behave your version of responsibly will be guaranteed safe.  That's totally untrue.

B) Even if birth control were perfect, you want to kill the children too.  So at least 33% of the people you want to kill are absolutely, totally, 100% innocent no matter how you try to spin it.

Use birth control at your own risk. If it fails its on you instead of on society. Maybe then more ppl would be responsible and use absitenance. And I already told you how the children are NOT innocent. mabye read the last post before you respond fool.

8/5/2013 4:52 PM
Posted by shawnfucious on 8/5/2013 4:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dahsdebater on 8/5/2013 4:33:00 PM (view original):
A) No form of birth control is 100% effective except abstinence.  Birth control pill failures lead to thousands of births per year.  Generally estimates of the failure rate of oral contraceptives are 5-8% with normal use and 0.5-1% with perfect use.  Condoms are worse.  You act like people who behave your version of responsibly will be guaranteed safe.  That's totally untrue.

B) Even if birth control were perfect, you want to kill the children too.  So at least 33% of the people you want to kill are absolutely, totally, 100% innocent no matter how you try to spin it.

Use birth control at your own risk. If it fails its on you instead of on society. Maybe then more ppl would be responsible and use absitenance. And I already told you how the children are NOT innocent. mabye read the last post before you respond fool.

The children aren't innocent? How?
8/5/2013 4:59 PM
For those of you who don't read things but decide to repond like an ignoramus anyway, from my earlier post...

you think any of these ppl are innocent? do you? which ones? the mother who spreads her legs for someone without even thinking of the consequences? she could get free birth control from any number of source but doesn't use it. the father who just has sex without even putting on a condom? those can be gotten for free from a number of sources too. the kid that will grow up to create problems for all sorts of ppl bc of the lack of parenting it got so now it has issues? yeah when ppl suffer later bc of the kids violence and crimes and disrspect for authority and general bad attitude then you talk. when someone gets killed or is harmed by the kid or their actions bc they weren't parented properly, you can tell them its okay bc we had to let the kid grow up like this since we live in a liberal mamby pamby pathetic society that wont fix these types of things before they begin. you tell the loved ones of someone killed by a kid like that that its better the kid lives than their loved one bc you are a liberal ***** who is okay with that so they should be too. yeah now whose innocent here? none of them thats who.

8/5/2013 5:19 PM
So because some of them will later go on to commit crimes or use welfare, 100% of children born to poor or incapable parents are not innocent at birth?

And you yourself said you've had sex "thousands of times" without producing an unwanted child.  In other words, you've gotten at least a little lucky.  And now you're preaching abstinence?  Get over yourself.
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