8/1/2013 4:34 PM
I looked at the RedSox, even drafted a team for comparison. a decent choice. almost as good as my choice, heheh. I didn't want Fenway and the extra stamina required for it.
8/1/2013 5:11 PM
Posted by schwarze on 8/1/2013 4:15:00 PM (view original):
I guess I was the only person who thought the Red Sox of that era was a decent choice.  I really wanted 1919 Ruth and I liked their pitching options (Young, Leonard, Wood). 
I actually went with the Red Sox 1st.  I completed a Red Sox team first and then built a Indians team.  It was a close call between the two, but I went with the Indians partly because of their cheaper scrubs.  
8/2/2013 10:36 AM
I looked very closely at the Giants and A's (1905-1930ish)...some nice players but found them too costly for this cap level. I like the balance of the 05-29 cubs. I just hope by big 3 starters - '08 Brown, '05 Reulbach and '09 Overall - are as good as I think they'll be.
8/2/2013 11:38 AM
Posted by profcake on 8/1/2013 5:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by schwarze on 8/1/2013 4:15:00 PM (view original):
I guess I was the only person who thought the Red Sox of that era was a decent choice.  I really wanted 1919 Ruth and I liked their pitching options (Young, Leonard, Wood). 
I actually went with the Red Sox 1st.  I completed a Red Sox team first and then built a Indians team.  It was a close call between the two, but I went with the Indians partly because of their cheaper scrubs.  
I had went built a Red Sox team as well first. Not sure why I didn't go with them honestly. I built my Giants team with the 09 Mathewson originally, but I didn't like the amount of innings I had, and the 08 Mathewson was too expensive.
8/2/2013 2:12 PM
70-80s A's are popular too - two at 69-93 and myself at 70-94. I've always had success with A's franchise teams so hopefully that continues. Good defense, good pitching, pitcher's park, and some cheap pop and walks.
8/2/2013 2:29 PM
I went with 51-75 Dodgers, and there's a few others in that range. Wanted to start with Snider and Koufax, just for fun, and there's plenty of talent in that era for the Dodgers.
8/2/2013 4:17 PM
Honestly after I realized it was plausible to use Addie Joss on every team I decided to make that a theme, but I'm a little surprised people went with the 02-26 Indians en masse; I thought access to Earl Averill was a bit more important than access to Bill Bernhard considering other options, and in general the pieces fit better with fewer forced early deadballers.
8/28/2013 1:15 PM
Here is an update - thru 68 games...

PreRank Owner_____ League Franchise Wins Losses Winning%
42 njbigwig 3-C 1910-1934 Chicago White Sox 46 22 0.676
7 mildnhazy 3-D 1906-1930 New York Giants 45 23 0.662
28 cmolli 3-D 1903-1927 Chicago White Sox 42 26 0.618
4 tjefferson 3-D 1907-1931 Cleveland Indians 41 27 0.603
50 koyunlu 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 41 27 0.603
1 brianjw 3-A 1902-1926 New York Giants 40 28 0.588
48 national 3-C 1905-1929 Chicago Cubs 40 28 0.588
51 marlowe 3-C 1906-1930 Chicago Cubs 40 28 0.588
67 ncih 3-A 1981-2005 Montreal Expos 40 28 0.588
3 discodemo 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 39 29 0.574
19 bardin 3-B 1910-1934 New York Giants 39 29 0.574
44 markeking 3-A 1907-1931 New York Giants 39 29 0.574
62 halo23 3-D 1986-2010 New York Yankees 39 29 0.574
75 zephyr1949 3-C 1903-1927 Cleveland Indians 39 29 0.574
13 shaybee 3-C 1902-1926 New York Giants 38 30 0.559
15 bighooze 3-C 1965-1989 Los Angeles Dodgers 38 30 0.559
17 jbohrman 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 38 30 0.559
39 slainte 3-C 1967-1991 St. Louis Cardinals 38 30 0.559
47 justinlee_24 3-B 1902-1926 Chicago White Sox 38 30 0.559
54 sford 3-A 1919-1943 New York Yankees 38 30 0.559
91 rickysdad44 3-B 1964-1988 Los Angeles Dodgers 38 30 0.559
6 schwarze 3-B 1905-1929 Boston Red Sox 37 31 0.544
10 ybjsports 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 37 31 0.544
18 rbow923 3-A 1903-1927 Chicago Cubs 37 31 0.544
34 contrarian23 3-D 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 37 31 0.544
35 jjgreen14 3-A 1973-1997 Montreal Expos 37 31 0.544
40 besterateam 3-D 1901-1925 Chicago White Sox 37 31 0.544
69 Chisock 3-B 1932-1956 New York Yankees 37 31 0.544
71 Jdh34 3-A 1960-1984 Cincinnati Reds 37 31 0.544
85 thebubbaq 3-C 1902-1926 Pittsburgh Pirates 37 31 0.544
16 ryan_horner 3-A 1910-1934 New York Giants 36 32 0.529
32 odalisgagne 3-A 1976-2000 St. Louis Cardinals 36 32 0.529
37 cstrohmier 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 36 32 0.529
45 hacker7 3-B 1905-1929 Philadelphia Athletics 36 32 0.529
80 famous_dad 3-B 1969-1993 Oakland Athletics 36 32 0.529
5 dougpalm 3-C 1908-1932 Philadelphia Athletics 35 33 0.515
11 mensu1954 3-C 1981-2005 St. Louis Cardinals 35 33 0.515
23 wetwillytwo 3-D 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 35 33 0.515
26 batandball 3-C 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 35 33 0.515
56 beauchamp 3-A 1904-1928 Chicago White Sox 35 33 0.515
61 devomac 3-B 1903-1927 Chicago Cubs 35 33 0.515
66 gorbyruss 3-A 1906-1930 Chicago Cubs 35 33 0.515
79 Dalefan1 3-D 1967-1991 St. Louis Cardinals 35 33 0.515
93 Tucker T's 3-A 1916-1940 New York Giants 35 33 0.515
8 buddhagamer 3-D 1905-1929 Chicago White Sox 34 34 0.500
29 The Taint 3-B 1981-2005 St. Louis Cardinals 34 34 0.500
36 elonsmitty 3-D 1969-1993 Oakland Athletics 34 34 0.500
43 ejstockman 3-C 1985-2009 St. Louis Cardinals 34 34 0.500
55 footballmm11 3-B 1951-1975 Brooklyn Dodgers 34 34 0.500
57 rmdriskill 3-C 1983-2007 New York Mets 34 34 0.500
59 dlchow 3-B 1903-1927 Chicago Cubs 34 34 0.500
60 kyleb63 3-D 1904-1928 Chicago Cubs 34 34 0.500
63 2chair 3-D 1988-2012 Atlanta Braves 34 34 0.500
64 Jtpsops 3-C 1970-1994 Oakland Athletics 34 34 0.500
84 tridentric 3-A 1982-2006 St. Louis Cardinals 34 34 0.500
87 bbondsmvp 3-D 1981-2005 Houston Astros 34 34 0.500
14 profcake 3-D 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 33 35 0.485
22 jfranco77 3-C 1906-1930 St. Louis Cardinals 33 35 0.485
41 Relkcirts 3-D 1908-1932 New York Giants 33 35 0.485
68 toddcommish 3-C 1979-2003 Kansas City Royals 33 35 0.485
73 just4me 3-A 1892-1916 Pittsburgh Pirates 33 35 0.485
2 alleyviper 3-C 1900-1924 New York Giants 32 36 0.471
12 bigmc 3-A 1909-1933 New York Giants 32 36 0.471
27 newarkwilder 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 32 36 0.471
49 daronb 3-D 1968-1992 St. Louis Cardinals 32 36 0.471
74 DarthDurron 3-A 1981-2005 Houston Astros 32 36 0.471
81 Poddy 3-D 1901-1925 Cleveland Indians 32 36 0.471
20 yankeeso7 3-A 1904-1928 Pittsburgh Pirates 31 37 0.456
21 pedrocerrano 3-B 1898-1922 Pittsburgh Pirates 31 37 0.456
24 crystalao 3-D 1959-1983 Los Angeles Dodgers 31 37 0.456
25 cubbies84 3-C 1906-1930 Chicago Cubs 31 37 0.456
33 tulsaslide 3-A 1968-1992 Oakland Athletics 31 37 0.456
38 mllama54 3-A 1980-2004 Oakland Athletics 31 37 0.456
46 Donburgh 3-A 1902-1926 Pittsburgh Pirates 31 37 0.456
53 fooolishfool 3-A 1984-2008 New York Mets 31 37 0.456
58 oskies 3-D 1952-1976 Brooklyn Dodgers 31 37 0.456
77 gigrant 3-B 1975-1999 Cleveland Indians 31 37 0.456
82 dodgebob 3-B 1988-2012 Atlanta Braves 31 37 0.456
89 leeelci 3-D 1985-2009 Cleveland Indians 31 37 0.456
92 scthallfan 3-C 1980-2004 Atlanta Braves 31 37 0.456
52 blackmink18 3-D 1979-2003 Cincinnati Reds 30 38 0.441
76 EasyE7273 3-C 1969-1993 St. Louis Cardinals 30 38 0.441
83 bigsteve12 3-D 1985-2009 St. Louis Cardinals 30 38 0.441
95 elvisgump 3-B 1987-2011 Seattle Mariners 30 38 0.441
9 Contracted 3-A 1905-1929 Chicago Cubs 29 39 0.426
70 shysters3 3-C 1954-1978 Brooklyn Dodgers 29 39 0.426
86 maddog162 3-A 1988-2012 San Francisco Giants 29 39 0.426
30 mpitt76 3-C 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 28 40 0.412
72 thejuice6 3-A 1910-1934 New York Giants 27 41 0.397
31 calhoop 3-D 1988-2012 Boston Red Sox 26 42 0.382
88 dvorr80 3-D 1987-2011 New York Yankees 26 42 0.382
65 trd3 3-B 1975-1999 New York Yankees 25 43 0.368
78 zlionsfan 3-C 1962-1986 Philadelphia Phillies 25 43 0.368
94 hurricane86 3-B 1988-2012 Minnesota Twins 25 43 0.368
96 shadoworkcat 3-B 1969-1993 Baltimore Orioles 22 46 0.324
90 evil_twin 3-C 1973-1997 Kansas City Royals 21 47 0.309
8/28/2013 1:19 PM
Here are the top selections (minimum of 2 times selected

Franchise Count AvgRank Winning% Proj Wins
1902-1926 New York Giants 2 7.0 0.574 92.9
1967-1991 St. Louis Cardinals 2 59.0 0.537 87.0
1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 11 24.6 0.523 84.7
1903-1927 Chicago Cubs 3 46.0 0.520 84.2
1906-1930 Chicago Cubs 3 47.3 0.520 84.2
1969-1993 Oakland Athletics 2 58.0 0.515 83.4
1905-1929 Chicago Cubs 2 28.5 0.507 82.2
1981-2005 St. Louis Cardinals 2 20.0 0.507 82.2
1910-1934 New York Giants 3 35.7 0.500 81.0
1902-1926 Pittsburgh Pirates 2 65.5 0.500 81.0
1981-2005 Houston Astros 2 80.5 0.485 78.6
1988-2012 Atlanta Braves 2 72.5 0.478 77.4
1985-2009 St. Louis Cardinals 2 63.0 0.471 76.2


Here are the top selections (teams selected once)

Franchise Count AvgRank Winning% Proj Wins
1910-1934 Chicago White Sox 1 42.0 0.676 109.6
1906-1930 New York Giants 1 7.0 0.662 107.2
1903-1927 Chicago White Sox 1 28.0 0.618 100.1
1907-1931 Cleveland Indians 1 4.0 0.603 97.7
1981-2005 Montreal Expos 1 67.0 0.588 95.3
1903-1927 Cleveland Indians 1 75.0 0.574 92.9
1907-1931 New York Giants 1 44.0 0.574 92.9
1986-2010 New York Yankees 1 62.0 0.574 92.9
1902-1926 Chicago White Sox 1 47.0 0.559 90.5
1919-1943 New York Yankees 1 54.0 0.559 90.5
1964-1988 Los Angeles Dodgers 1 91.0 0.559 90.5
1965-1989 Los Angeles Dodgers 1 15.0 0.559 90.5
1901-1925 Chicago White Sox 1 40.0 0.544 88.1
1905-1929 Boston Red Sox 1 6.0 0.544 88.1
1932-1956 New York Yankees 1 69.0 0.544 88.1
1960-1984 Cincinnati Reds 1 71.0 0.544 88.1
1973-1997 Montreal Expos 1 35.0 0.544 88.1
1905-1929 Philadelphia Athletics 1 45.0 0.529 85.8
1976-2000 St. Louis Cardinals 1 32.0 0.529 85.8
1904-1928 Chicago White Sox 1 56.0 0.515 83.4
1908-1932 Philadelphia Athletics 1 5.0 0.515 83.4
1916-1940 New York Giants 1 93.0 0.515 83.4
1904-1928 Chicago Cubs 1 60.0 0.500 81.0
1905-1929 Chicago White Sox 1 8.0 0.500 81.0
1951-1975 Brooklyn Dodgers 1 55.0 0.500 81.0
1970-1994 Oakland Athletics 1 64.0 0.500 81.0
1982-2006 St. Louis Cardinals 1 84.0 0.500 81.0
1983-2007 New York Mets 1 57.0 0.500 81.0
1892-1916 Pittsburgh Pirates 1 73.0 0.485 78.6
1906-1930 St. Louis Cardinals 1 22.0 0.485 78.6
1908-1932 New York Giants 1 41.0 0.485 78.6
1979-2003 Kansas City Royals 1 68.0 0.485 78.6
1900-1924 New York Giants 1 2.0 0.471 76.2
1901-1925 Cleveland Indians 1 81.0 0.471 76.2
1909-1933 New York Giants 1 12.0 0.471 76.2
1968-1992 St. Louis Cardinals 1 49.0 0.471 76.2
1898-1922 Pittsburgh Pirates 1 21.0 0.456 73.9
1904-1928 Pittsburgh Pirates 1 20.0 0.456 73.9
1952-1976 Brooklyn Dodgers 1 58.0 0.456 73.9
1959-1983 Los Angeles Dodgers 1 24.0 0.456 73.9
1968-1992 Oakland Athletics 1 33.0 0.456 73.9
1975-1999 Cleveland Indians 1 77.0 0.456 73.9
1980-2004 Atlanta Braves 1 92.0 0.456 73.9
1980-2004 Oakland Athletics 1 38.0 0.456 73.9
1984-2008 New York Mets 1 53.0 0.456 73.9
1985-2009 Cleveland Indians 1 89.0 0.456 73.9
1969-1993 St. Louis Cardinals 1 76.0 0.441 71.5
1979-2003 Cincinnati Reds 1 52.0 0.441 71.5
1987-2011 Seattle Mariners 1 95.0 0.441 71.5
1954-1978 Brooklyn Dodgers 1 70.0 0.426 69.1
1988-2012 San Francisco Giants 1 86.0 0.426 69.1
1987-2011 New York Yankees 1 88.0 0.382 61.9
1988-2012 Boston Red Sox 1 31.0 0.382 61.9
1962-1986 Philadelphia Phillies 1 78.0 0.368 59.6
1975-1999 New York Yankees 1 65.0 0.368 59.6
1988-2012 Minnesota Twins 1 94.0 0.368 59.6
1969-1993 Baltimore Orioles 1 96.0 0.324 52.4
1973-1997 Kansas City Royals 1 90.0 0.309 50.0



8/28/2013 1:21 PM
And just for fun, here are the eleven 1902-1926 Cleveland teams...  Of course, all the good ones are in my league (3B)

PreRank Owner_____ League Franchise__________________ Wins Losses Winning%
50 koyunlu 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 41 27 0.603
3 discodemo 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 39 29 0.574
17 jbohrman 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 38 30 0.559
10 ybjsports 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 37 31 0.544
34 contrarian23 3-D 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 37 31 0.544
37 cstrohmier 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 36 32 0.529
23 wetwillytwo 3-D 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 35 33 0.515
26 batandball 3-C 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 35 33 0.515
14 profcake 3-D 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 33 35 0.485
27 newarkwilder 3-B 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 32 36 0.471
30 mpitt76 3-C 1902-1926 Cleveland Indians 28 40 0.412
8/28/2013 1:22 PM
It would be interesting to see what the roster differences are between these teams.
8/28/2013 8:41 PM
Posted by schwarze on 8/28/2013 1:22:00 PM (view original):
It would be interesting to see what the roster differences are between these teams.
I got the bad Addie Joss.
8/31/2013 9:39 PM
Low K pitching staff often run into fatigue problems. The low K pitchers don't get as many sim pitches per real life inning pitched, and it can really start to hurt if you have too many Joss-types on the roster.
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