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8/2/2013 6:21 PM (edited)
This thread: http://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?topicID=435942&page=1  inspired me to run a series of tests on pitchers with low BB and K rates and pitching them at lower fatigue fatigue levels. I'm still running these tests, but I have enough data now, that I feel I can post something. I've run three teams in an OL with the goal of having my pitchers pitch down to 80%. 

I have very carefully selected pitchers that have low BB and K rates to see if their performance is effected much by fatigue (I expect their K rate to drop and BB rate to increase, but giving the low starting points of each, even a substantial % change will have a minimal real world effect; i.e., a 50% increase in BB rate for a pitcher with a 0.78 BB/9 will only see a 1.12 BB/9, which is still excellent, though significantly worse percentage-wise). 

So, the pitchers I chose for this test were as follows:
1909 Addie Joss
1996 Kevin Brown
1997 Greg Maddux/1922 Babe Adams
1902 Bill Bernhard/1919 Slim Sallee
1918 Fred Toney
1918 Jake Northrop
1991 Dennis Rasmussen/ 2012 Koji Uehara
1938 Dizzy Dean/1950 Joe Ostrowski/1924 Babe Adams
1988 Bob Milacki/1972 Chris Zachary

After the first test, it became clear I didn't quite have enough IP to get solid data as several of the pitchers were pitching down to the 50% range. So, I swapped out Sallee for Bernhard, Adams for Maddux and Ostrowski (and Dizzy Dean), and MIlacki for Zachary.

I'll only be focusing on the starters, Toney, and Northrup for now as I have more data on them than the others. Each has appeared on at least two teams and has at least 80 games pitched worth of data. In order of data:

11/25/2013 10:30 PM (edited)
1909 Addie Joss:

Real Life:

Actual Statistics (projected to a 162 game season)
Player SN T GP GS W L SV IP BFP H ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA      
Joss, Addie 1909 R 35 30 15 14 0 257.0 966 210 49 0 33 71 .226 .94 1.71

Performance History:
Type # GP GS CG W L SV IP ER H HR SO BB HBP WP K/9 BB/9 WHIP OAV ERA 1B 2B 3B LF RF
Best 1 41 40 1 21 9 0 285 64 262 0 59 56 8 2 1.87 1.77 1.12 .243 2.02 1 0 0 0 0
Worst 1 54 54 0 7 35 0 293 227 454 34 35 83 10 1 1.08 2.55 1.83 .351 6.97 -1 0 0 1 1
Average 239 42 39 2 16 12 0 265 101 293 2 47 55 5 1 1.62 1.88 1.32 .278 3.43 0 0 0 0 0


Season 1:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Addie Joss 1909 R 257 3717 54 54 0 0 7 35 0 0 293 454 262 227 59 27 34 83 35 1416 4530 6.97 0.351 1.83 0.392 0.517 1.1 2.5 0.4 83.9 3.2 36 813 0.14 0.22 73% Cleveland
Season 2:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Addie Joss 1909 R 257 3717 39 38 9 1 15 15 1 1 289.3 361 165 137 34 4 16 53 41 1285 3958 4.26 0.3 1.43 0.331 0.375 1.3 1.6 0.8 101.5 3.08 32.3 241 0.13 0.06 84% Yankee 3
Season 3:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Addie Joss 1909 R 257 3717 40 40 13 2 16 17 0 0 304 342 146 118 49 11 5 43 55 1298 4040 3.49 0.278 1.266 0.306 0.348 1.6 1.3 1.3 101 3.11 47 323 0.18 0.09 80% WIS

DATE G % IP BFP PC W L SV R ER H HR SO BB ERA OAV WHIP
GAME AVG 44 80.03 6.66 30.31 94.20 0 1 0 4.31 3.62 8.70 0.41 0.98 1.35 4.89 0.303 1.51
COMPOSITE 133 80.03 886.3 4031 12528 38 67 2 573 482 1157 55 131 179 4.89 0.303 1.51
162 AVERAGE 44 80.03 295 1344 4176 13 22 1 191 161 386 18 44 60 4.89 0.303 1.51


That's an average of 38 more IP (14% increase) and 492 more pitches (13% increase) with a .303 OAV, 1.51 WHIP, and 4.89 ERA (with 239 uses on his performance history, his average OL slash is .278/1.32/3.43). His BB/9 increases to 1.82 when fatigued from a 1.16 RL BB/9 (a 56% increase), but it was still below his performance history average of 1.88. His K/9 decreased to a 1.33 from a RL K/9 of 2.49 (a 47% decrease), and lower than his performance history K/9 of 1.62 by 18%.  

Now, in the first season of the test, I used Cleveland Stadium, in the second season I used Yankee 3, and in the third I used WIS Park. His OAV was effected more by the offensive stadiums and in the first test when he pitched as low as 60% (Had 30 starts between 60-69%) as can be seen above. 

I will note, however, that his BB/9 was a 2.54 in the season he pitched down to 60%, and his OAV was .351, both SIGNIFICANTLY worse than the two seasons he pitched in the 80-85% range and his PH. With that season removed from this sample we would barely notice an effect of fatigue down to the 80% mark

1/6/2014 8:11 PM (edited)
1996 Kevin Brown:

Real Life Stats:
Player SN T GP GS W L SV IP BFP H ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA      
Brown, Kevin 1996 R 32 32 17 11 0 233.0 906 187 49 8 33 159 .220 .94 1.89      

Performance History:
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Type # GP GS CG W L SV IP ER H HR SO BB HBP WP K/9 BB/9 WHIP OAV ERA 1B 2B 3B LF RF
Best 1 33 33 10 23 4 0 270 50 189 11 144 49 11 1 4.80 1.63 0.88 .191 1.67 1 -2 3 -2 -2
Worst 1 54 54 0 4 43 0 288 247 443 45 89 116 18 11 2.78 3.62 1.94 .350 7.71 -3 -3 3 -3 -3
Average 289 40 37 2 16 11 0 255 89 252 10 136 50 12 3 4.82 1.76 1.18 .254 3.15 0 0 0 0 0



Season 2:

Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Kevin Brown 1996 R 233 3565 39 39 7 2 16 13 0 0 289 317 133 112 27 9 22 52 141 1242 4017 3.49 0.274 1.28 0.314 0.37 4.4 1.6 2.7 103 3.23 56 452 0.24 0.13 88% Yankee 3

Season 3:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Kevin Brown 1996 R 233 3565 38 38 11 3 18 12 0 0 293.3 272 103 88 34 6 18 42 143 1202 3935 2.7 0.239 1.07 0.268 0.326 4.4 1.3 3.4 103.6 3.27 65 370 0.28 0.10 89% WIS

Season 4:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Kevin Brown 1996 R 233 3565 39 39 7 2 16 13 0 0 289 317 133 112 27 9 22 52 141 1242 4017 3.49 0.274 1.277 0.314 0.37 4.4 1.6 2.7 103 3.23 56 452 0.24 0.13 86.26% Petco

Totals:
Date G % IP BFP PC W L SV R ER H HR SO BB ERA OAV WHIP
GAME AVG 1 87.75 7.51 31.78 103.18 0 0 0 3.18 2.69 7.81 0.53 3.66 1.26 3.22 0.257 1.21
COMPOSITE 116 87.75 871.3 3686 11969 50 38 0 369 312 906 62 425 146 3.22 0.257 1.21
162 AVERAGE 39 87.75 290 1229 3990 17 13 0 123 104 302 21 142 49 3.22 0.257 1.21

Brown was the pitcher who during the tests seemed to be the least affected by fatigue, and now I know why, he was, on average, barely pitching fatigued with an average fatigue of 88% compared to Joss's average fatigue of 80%.  That said, Brown put up a slash line of .252/1.17/3.09 which compares very favorably to his PH line of .254/1.18/3.15 while throwing roughly 40 IP more than average and nearly 60 more than RL. His RL BB & K rates are 1.27 & 6.14, respectively, while his PH rates are 1.76 an 4.82. While throwing below 90% on average he regressed to 1.39 & 4.38. So, once again, the BB rate wasn't affected as much as I expected relative to PH. Though it was down from RL by a significant margin, it would appear the effect on the BB rate has more to do with the other league factors than the effect of fatigue. The K rate, however, does seem to show signs of fatigue wearing, which signifies the importance of having your ballpark and defense ready to handle more balls in play. 
1/6/2014 8:04 PM (edited)
1997 Greg Maddux:

Real Life:
Player SN T GP GS W L SV IP BFP H ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA      
Maddux, Greg 1997 R 33 33 19 4 0 233.0 893 200 57 9 20 177 .236 .95 2.20

Performance HIstory:
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Type # GP GS CG W L SV IP ER H HR SO BB HBP WP K/9 BB/9 WHIP OAV ERA 1B 2B 3B LF RF
Best 1 36 35 6 19 5 0 253 51 216 8 146 27 2 0 5.19 .96 0.96 .227 1.81 -2 -2 -1 -1 -1
Worst 1 149 0 0 1 30 7 267 442 594 88 84 199 10 1 2.84 6.72 2.97 .439 14.92 1 0 -1 0 0
Average 425 40 38 2 15 12 0 255 93 273 11 153 33 6 0 5.43 1.19 1.21 .271 3.32 0 0 0 0 -1

Season 2:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Greg Maddux 1997 R 233 3550 38 38 9 3 12 21 0 0 279 335 158 130 43 7 32 39 156 1209 3913 4.19 0.292 1.34 0.315 0.425 5 1.3 4 103 3.24 46 363 0.20 0.10 86% Yankee 3

Season 3:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Greg Maddux 1997 R 233 3550 38 38 9 0 10 16 0 0 288 316 123 104 47 6 12 38 129 1215 3925 3.25 0.273 1.229 0.299 0.356 4 1.2 3.4 103.3 3.23 85 375 0.36 0.11 82% WIS

Season 4:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Greg Maddux 1997 R 233 3550 38 38 7 1 21 12 0 0 292.7 301 114 107 45 6 18 25 170 1191 3928 3.29 0.263 1.114 0.282 0.36 5.2 0.8 6.8 103.4 3.3 59.7 378 0.26 0.11 89.05% Petco


Totals:
Date G % IP BFP PC W L SV R ER H HR SO BB ERA OAV WHIP
GAME AVG 1 85.68 7.54 31.71 103.21 0 0 0 3.46 2.99 8.35 0.54 3.99 0.89 3.57 0.270 1.23
COMPOSITE 114 85.68 859.7 3615 11766 43 49 0 395 341 952 62 455 102 3.57 0.270 1.23
162 AVERAGE 38 85.68 287 1205 3922 14 16 0 132 114 317 21 152 34 3.57 0.270 1.23

Maddux has one of the best RL BB/9 rates at 0.77, so I was excited to see how that would transform when fatigued, his PH BB/9 is a 1.19, which is already a huge increase, and he put up 1.22 BB/9 while pitching at an average of 84% fatigue. His K/9 goes from 6.84 RL, to 5.43 PH, to 4.52 fatigued. His OAV and ERA were both slightly off from his PH with a slash of .271/1.21/3.32 vs. .277/1.28/3.71. Which seems to correlate to his slight increase on his BB/9 vs his PH (3% increase on BB/9, 2% increase in OAV, 6% increase in WHIP and 12% in ERA).

As I noted later in this thread the last season of Maddux had another iteration in the league playing at normal fatigue (two appearances below 100%, but both above 95%). This second Maddux was playing in Safeco and put up nearly identical stats:
My fatigued Maddux:
 

Split Type

G

GS

W

L

SV

SVO

IP

BFP

NP

H

ER

HR

BB

SO

OAV

OBP

SLG

WHIP

ERA

Totals

38

38

21

12

0

0

292.7

1191

3928

301

107

18

25

170

.263

.282

.360

1.11

3.29


The non-fatigued Maddux: 

Split Type

G

GS

W

L

SV

SVO

IP

BFP

NP

H

ER

HR

BB

SO

OAV

OBP

SLG

WHIP

ERA

Totals

69

56

12

13

0

0

263.7

1091

3563

276

88

5

23

154

.265

.286

.330

1.13

3.00


As you can see, the only real difference was the number of extra innings and batters faced by my Maddux... with the exception of HRs allowed, which seems to be the only thing affected at this level of fatigue all else being roughly equal. 
 


 
8/2/2013 5:37 PM (edited)
1902 Bill Bernhard:

Real Life:

Player SN T GP GS W L SV IP BFP H ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA      
Bernhard, Bill 1902 R 32 29 20 6 1 259.0 980 201 63 5 40 68 .216 .94 2.20

Performance History:
Type # GP GS CG W L SV IP ER H HR SO BB HBP WP K/9 BB/9 WHIP OAV ERA 1B 2B 3B LF RF
Best 1 40 35 4 23 4 0 260 45 202 7 50 61 5 3 1.73 2.11 1.01 .208 1.56 -3 -3 2 -3 -3
Worst 1 46 46 0 11 22 0 264 180 350 16 57 79 9 4 1.94 2.69 1.62 .316 6.13 3 2 3 3 4
Average 269 42 40 3 17 11 0 273 95 268 9 50 64 7 2 1.65 2.11 1.22 .253 3.14 0 0 0 0 0

Season 2:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Bill Bernhard 1902 R 259 3769 41 40 12 1 14 21 0 1 296.7 348 180 149 41 11 29 66 47 1316 4126 4.52 0.286 1.4 0.323 0.409 1.4 2 0.7 100.6 3.14 37.7 357 0.15 0.09 88% Yankee 3

Season 3:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Bill Bernhard 1902 R 259 3769 40 40 17 2 16 17 0 0 308 310 137 111 34 10 10 69 59 1314 4187 3.24 0.255 1.231 0.297 0.324 1.7 2 0.9 104.7 3.19 49 418 0.19 0.11 85% WIS


Date G % IP BFP PC W L SV R ER H HR SO BB ERA OAV WHIP
GAME AVG 1 87 7.47 32.47 102.63 0 0 0 3.91 3.21 8.12 0.48 1.31 1.67 3.87 0.266 1.31
COMPOSITE 81 87 604.667 2630 8313 30 38 3 317 260 658 39 106 135 3.87 0.266 1.31
162 AVERAGE 41 87 302 1315 4157 15 19 2 159 130 329 20 53 68 3.87 0.266 1.31


Bernhard is one I expected much more from, but as one who also faced little fatigue overall (1% more fatigued than Brown 86.71 % vs. 87.68%), Bernhard fared the worst across the board. He underperformed RL and his PH by large margins in most categories: Slash lines of .253/1.22/3.14 vs. .266/1.31/3.87 and BB & K rate changes from 2.11 BB/9 and 1.65 K/9 to a 2.01 BB/9 & 1.58 K/9. His BB & K rate stats were roughly in line with his PH, but his OAV, ERA and HR numbers were elevated. Again, much of that appears to be Yankee 3 related with him serving up huge OAV and HR rates in Yankee, but outperforming his PH in both in a neutral park. Another case where I still need more data, and more fatigue...
1/6/2014 8:25 PM (edited)
1918 Fred Toney;

Real Life:
Player SN T GP GS W L SV IP BFP H ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA      
Toney, Fred 1918 R 14 12 8 3 1 112.0 401 72 21 1 9 25 .192 .73 1.69

Performance History:
Type # GP GS CG W L SV IP ER H HR SO BB HBP WP K/9 BB/9 WHIP OAV ERA 1B 2B 3B LF RF
Best 1 80 0 0 9 0 4 112 8 58 1 24 13 4 0 1.92 1.04 0.63 .149 0.64 -2 -2 -1 -2 -2
Worst 1 107 0 0 2 29 3 153 487 477 108 6 262 15 1 .35 15.38 4.82 .529 28.58 -2 -1 1 -1 -1
Average 1015 56 6 0 7 4 5 110 33 103 3 29 19 2 0 2.42 1.56 1.11 .243 2.77 0 0 0 0 0

Season 1:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Fred Toney 1918 R 112 1506 23 23 0 0 10 5 0 0 131.3 120 48 40 23 2 4 20 15 551 1730 2.74 0.232 1.07 0.267 0.307 1 1.4 0.8 75.2 3.14 19.3 224 0.17 0.15 84% Cleveland

Season 2:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Fred Toney 1918 R 112 1506 71 5 1 1 5 5 3 4 121.7 106 38 35 16 3 1 20 29 491 1531 2.59 0.228 1.04 0.262 0.282 2.1 1.5 1.5 21.6 3.12 9.7 25 0.09 0.02 94% Yankee 3

Season 3:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Fred Toney 1918 R 112 1506 58 6 0 0 8 5 2 3 109 94 31 25 20 0 2 11 27 432 1375 2.06 0.224 0.963 0.248 0.286 2.2 0.9 2.5 23.7 3.18 -3 -131 -0.03 -0.09 100% WIS

Season 4:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Fred Toney 1918 R 112 1506 67 5 0 0 11 4 0 1 128 103 39 36 24 2 6 14 27 496 1586 2.53 0.216 0.914 0.24 0.312 1.9 1 1.9 23.7 3.2 16 80 0.14 0.05 85.60% Petco

Totals:
Date G % IP BFP PC W L SV R ER H HR SO BB ERA OAV WHIP
GAME AVG 1 90.65 2.24 9.00 28.41 0 0 0 0.71 0.62 1.93 0.06 0.45 0.30 2.50 0.223 1.00
COMPOSITE 219 90.65 490 1970 6222 34 19 5 156 136 423 13 98 65 2.50 0.223 1.00
162 AVERAGE 55 90.65 123 493 1556 9 5 1 39 34 106 3 25 16 2.50 0.223 1.00

As may be plainly obvious, despite my best attempts, I struggled to get Toney to experience much fatigue. Down the stretch in this last season I started him in a one man rotation (his 6 starts). Still, he never dropped below 100% in season 3, and barely did in season 2. We're not going to gather much from his data yet, but anyway his PH BB/9 & K/9 of 1.56 and 2.42 were 1.26 & 1.77 in my three leagues, so maybe his K rate was affected some by the 84% in league one, but he still dominated in the BB/9 category, not even having his worst rate in his most fatigued season. 

With the data from Season 4, Toney had his 2nd highest level of fatigue, but also put up his best numbers... showing the difference both ballpark selection and sample size put into play. Will be really interested in the additional data from the currently running league with the same ballpark, but with a defense in play as well. 

1/6/2014 7:52 PM (edited)
1918 Jake Northrop:

Real Life:
Player SN T GP GS W L SV IP BFP H ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA      
Northrop, Jake 1918 R 9 5 7 1 0 53.0 196 34 8 0 4 5 .183 .73 1.35

Performance History:
Type # GP GS CG W L SV IP ER H HR SO BB HBP WP K/9 BB/9 WHIP OAV ERA 1B 2B 3B LF RF
Best 1 45 0 0 6 0 1 61 1 38 0 9 4 1 0 1.33 .59 0.69 .177 0.15 -2 -2 -1 -2 -2
Worst 1 47 34 0 0 31 0 51 165 165 37 3 83 3 0 .53 14.65 4.86 .495 29.12 2 3 0 -2 -2
Average 1603 52 0 0 3 2 13 53 16 50 1 6 10 1 0 1.05 1.77 1.13 .242 2.71 0 0 0 0 0

Season 1:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Jake Northrop 1918 R 53 699 57 0 0 0 5 2 0 3 59 71 26 24 10 2 2 7 5 257 799 3.66 0.289 1.32 0.309 0.37 0.8 1.1 0.7 14 3.11 6 100 0.11 0.14 81% Cleveland


Season 2:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Jake Northrop 1918 R 53 699 57 0 0 0 7 5 0 3 62.3 65 31 26 7 2 3 9 3 258 784 3.75 0.263 1.19 0.292 0.344 0.4 1.3 0.3 13.8 3.04 9.3 85 0.18 0.12 83% Yankee 3


Season 3:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Jake Northrop 1918 R 53 699 54 0 0 0 2 2 4 5 55 57 18 17 8 1 0 5 8 224 699 2.78 0.261 1.127 0.281 0.307 1.3 0.8 1.6 12.9 3.12 2 0 0.04 0.00 100% WIS

Season 4:
Player Season T RL IP RL NP G GS CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER 2B 3B HR BB SO BFP NP ERA OAV WHIP OBP SLG SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB NP/G NP/PA IP+ NP+ %IP+ %NP+ Fatigue Ballpark
Jake Northrop 1918 R 53 699 58 0 0 0 5 3 29 32 60 53 18 16 10 2 1 6 4 244 752 2.4 0.225 0.983 0.247 0.297 0.6 0.9 0.7 13 3.08 7 53 0.13 0.08 82.95% Petco

Totals:
Date G % IP BFP PC W L SV R ER H HR SO BB ERA OAV WHIP
GAME AVG 1 86.75 1.05 4.35 13.65 0 0 0 0.33 0.30 0.85 0.02 0.07 0.09 2.55 0.214 0.91
COMPOSITE 226 86.75 236.3 983 3084 9 4 11 75 67 193 5 16 21 2.55 0.214 0.91
162 AVERAGE 57 86.75 59 246 771 2 1 3 19 17 48 1 4 5 2.55 0.214 0.91

Even though he had one full season without any real fatigue (one appearance at 97%), he had two seasons with an average appearance below 83%, which works out to an average appearance of just under 88%. He also has the smallest sample size in terms of IP, but is the furthest from his RL & PH stats.  He finished my sample with a 1.07 BB/9 and 0.82 K/9 vs PH rates of 1.77 and 1.05. Once again besting the BB rate but failing to live up to the K rate. His triple slash is significantly worse than the PH .242/1.13/2.71 with his .267/1.21/3.42 and he he gave up an average of three times the HRs... granted, most of that difference comes to the two + hit and HR stadiums...

Now with the 4th season added in, his numbers are starting to look more Northrop like, while his fatigue levels decreased as he went from an 88% average fatigue to an 86.75% average fatigue. His 4th season was his best statistically, while it was also one of the more fatigued seasons (82.95%). 

Seems to show that if you control for the two main variables (HRs and hits) and start with low BB numbers (K's seem to be unimportant, except for maybe increasing the number of pitches the pitcher can throw) fatigue down to the low 80's is negligible at best. 

8/2/2013 7:25 PM (edited)
Observations:

I goofed initially by putting them in +1B and +HR ballparks for the first two tests. It has skewed the OAV and HR results, so I need to run a few more to get better data on those stats, the BB and K rates, however, are mostly what this was about, so they remain unaffected. 

That said, after compiling these stats its clear we need a few more seasons of data. I'll run out these same staffs in WIS Park a few more times while saving the data to add it to what's already been collected here so far. 

However, even with this limited data, it seems that the BB rate isn't affected as much as I would have guessed by fatigue into the 80s, though it definitely balloons once you reach the 60s, likewise for OAV. K rates do seem to be affected even at low levels of fatigue, and so long as you plan accordingly with pitcher friendly ballparks and a defense that can handle extra balls in play, these low levels of fatigue seem to be very manageable, if not exploitable. 
8/2/2013 9:26 PM
Thanks for running tests on the data jm4. This goes back to my idea that fatigue penalties are not severe enough for light fatigue. This data coincides with my complaints found in this forum:  http://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?topicID=466091&page=1
8/2/2013 10:56 PM
Also, I should note, that the fatigue percentage listed for each pitcher is not their final fatigue %, but the average fatigue % for each appearance.  In the first season test Addie Joss finished at a 59% fatigue, and there were a few more in season 1 that went into the 50s, while in the other test seasons I had a few pitchers who barely dropped below 100, but most of the others pitchers/tests  finished between 77-84%.
8/3/2013 12:30 AM
Observation: Bill Bernhard sucks. No idea why, he just does. I try to avoid taking him these days, because he sucks every time I try him. Your data confirms this (or at least fails to disprove it).
8/4/2013 12:21 AM
I just noticed the Addie Joss from season one is the worst on the PH!
11/25/2013 10:32 PM
I've got two more seasons worth of data now and have a third season in the works... once I get a chance, I'll plug these three new sets into the numbers above.
11/28/2013 10:07 PM
great piece just4me im new to wis but i love numbers and am hooked. reading your piece has convinced me of one thing ive been wanting to try.  I really like 05 joss in the polo grounds as a number 3 starter he has winning over twenty but i have to keep his pitch count at 85 so he stays at 100% i am gonna raise that to 110 and let his fatigue go into the eightys and see what happens thanks
11/29/2013 4:49 AM
Excellent info j4m...thanks!
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