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8/18/2013 8:52 PM
After 6 months away at WIS, I decided to kick off my return with an OL team in Coors.  I'd tried to win there a couple of times in the past, with no success.

My basic idea this time was to draft very few PA and IP and use AAA/scrubs in non-essential games.  I drafted 1234 quality innings, plus a scrub pitcher.  I had a shuttle bus taking scrub pitchers to and from the WW all season long -- they made 21 starts for me and went 1-20. 

I drafted 4800 PA but 1100 went to the minors with only 3700 making the team.  These PA were spread over 4 full-time (ish) positions and 3 part-time positions.  I used the hell out of my AAA hitters (a couple aren't shown below as they were traded before the deadline).

We finished the season 102-50, then went 11-3 in the playoffs.  Here are the final regular season stats for the team:

Name (Bats) Pos Order % PA AB HR RBI SB AVG OBP SLG $
Charlie Hollocher '20 (L) SS* 1 100 376 336 0 49 0 .351 .418 .411 3.77M 
Bill Joyce '91 (L) 3B* 2 100 368 311 4 44 0 .325 .429 .466 3.71M 
Blair Lipps '13 (L) RF* 3 97 202 181 4 26 0 .370 .436 .492 200K 
Nap Lajoie '99 (R) 2B* 4 100 353 333 11 70 0 .384 .416 .592 4.65M 
Willie Stargell '71 (L) LF* 5 100 649 576 41 139 0 .288 .362 .549 6.16M 
Cy Williams '23 (L) CF* 6 100 683 626 54 161 0 .300 .351 .610 6.20M 
Rick Wilkins '93 (L) C * 7 100 525 476 24 84 0 .311 .373 .521 5.55M 
Willie McCovey '63 (L) 1B^ 8 100 673 605 38 117 0 .281 .346 .512 4.81M 
Jack Brohamer '80 (L) 2B* Bench 100 27 25 1 5 0 .360 .407 .520 278K 
Wilson Delgado '03 (S) SS^ Bench 100 65 52 0 6 0 .327 .462 .365 250K 
Dave Grizzly '13 (R) SS^ Bench 100 127 111 0 7 0 .252 .346 .288 200K 
Adam Groom '13 (L) RF* Bench 100 207 185 4 15 0 .232 .309 .308 200K 
Jamie Heming '13 (R) C * Bench 100 93 86 0 5 0 .244 .301 .314 200K 
Nicky Rouff '13 (L) 1B* Bench 100 270 236 2 41 0 .377 .456 .458 200K 
Freddy Weik '13 (R) 3B* Bench 100 411 380 9 50 0 .324 .370 .424 200K 
Cole Wilkes '13 (R) 2B* Bench 100 288 269 1 28 0 .245 .295 .342 200K 


STARTERS
Pitcher Role % G W-L SV IP ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 $
Addie Joss '08 (R)   100 54 24-11 2 342.0 3.13 .271 1.22 1.74 1.29 12.78M
Stan Coveleski '17 (R)   100 53 27-10 0 304.1 4.20 .281 1.51 4.47 3.49 10.21M
Ed Summers '09 (R)   100 56 23-12 0 325.2 4.17 .298 1.46 2.60 2.13 7.77M
 BULLPEN
Pitcher Role % G W-L SV IP ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 $
Bert Majik '13 (L)   78 (79) 18 1-2 0 38.2 10.71 .383 2.41 4.19 6.05 200K
Al Grabowski '29 (L)   100 32 5-1 8 51.1 4.91 .309 1.42 4.38 1.05 2.09M
Fred Toney '18 (R)   74 (93) 55 6-2 10 108.2 2.98 .252 1.06 1.99 0.66 4.20M
Johnny Niggeling '43 (R)   81 (82) 38 8-1 5 52.0 1.90 .195 1.27 4.50 5.19 2.46M
Nick Maddox '07 (R)   97 (98) 35 7-1 9 54.2 2.47 .236 1.21 3.29 2.80 2.21M
Phil Redding '12 (R)   13 (13) 7 0-5 0 33.1 15.39 .438 2.94 2.97 6.48 204K

8/19/2013 1:43 PM
very impressive. I have tried different combos over the years and never made the playoffs
8/19/2013 1:50 PM
I've made the playoffs with Coors teams but always got knocked out in the first round.  This is my first Coors team, though, with really good pitching.  (And I usually feel guilty using Joss in Open Leagues, but if there's any park where it's justified it's this one.  It's those guys using him in Safeco/Petco/Astrodome who are overdoing it!) 
8/19/2013 5:55 PM
Nice job managing fatigue and running a team with such few innings and PAs in Coors.
8/22/2013 1:32 AM
Congrats Crazy!

I have played Coors twice and won the WS once there.  On both teams I also drafted only 1200ip.  Details are here.
8/22/2013 12:48 PM
That's cool.   All these years of playing and I've still never fielded a team at Coors.   Looks like you hit the SIM jackpot with an assignment of three productive AAA players (Lipps, Rouff, and Weik); two of which had BAs over .370 and OPS of over .900.    Since you were able to use them for nearly 900 PAs, it really helped out your team.   Well done. 
8/22/2013 5:06 PM
Coors inflated all my hitters' stats, including most of my rookies' numbers:

Blair Lipps
Coors -- .410/.454/.580
Away -- .321/.415/.383

Freddy Weik
Coors --.401/.437/.544
Away -- .256/.312/.320   

Nicky Rouff, however, raked everywhere:
Coors -- .386/.456/.446
Away -- .370/.455/.467

I've just entered another OL team in Coors.  No big HR hitters this time (and no cookies -- all 8 of my hitters have been used fewer than 50 times).  And no Joss (I'm using 4 lefty starters -- two Doc Whites and two Jeff Pfiesters).  Will post an update on this team later...
9/26/2013 1:47 AM
Well, I've had to update the title of this thread, as this Coors OL team just won me a TOC!  The icing on the cake was sweeping an OL cookie team in the Finals -- Bip, Coleman, Dilone, Carter, Joss, Summers, Milacki, etc. in the Astrodome. 

Viva la Coors!
9/26/2013 12:54 PM

Congrats!

9/26/2013 1:47 PM
Great job.  I remember last year I made it to game 7 of the TOC finals with a Coors team and lost to Dougpalm!!
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10/7/2013 8:03 PM
Impressive!
10/7/2013 8:19 PM
Blair Lipps, heh
10/25/2013 2:11 PM
My most recent OL Coors team just wrapped up with a loss in the World Series.  We went 91-71 in the regular season with batters who had fewer than 50 uses in the sim (two of them, 2010 Justin Morneau and 1961 George Altman, set Performance History bests).  Our AAA bats came in handy again -- five of them were good hitters and the two who weren't had great D (the 2B had an A+/A+ rating and the C threw out 26 of 42 runners). 

Name (Bats) Pos Order % PA AB HR RBI SB AVG OBP SLG $
Elmer Flick '05 (L) LF* 1 100 649 601 8 93 0 .341 .387 .504 4.58M 
Enos Slaughter '40 (L) RF* 2 100 648 589 10 91 0 .341 .401 .480 4.79M 
George Altman '61 (L) CF* 3 100 649 606 27 146 0 .350 .387 .592 4.95M 
Jack Clements '95 (L) C * 4 100 439 407 25 97 0 .405 .444 .668 5.56M 
Justin Morneau '10 (L) 1B* 5 100 346 298 10 65 0 .423 .494 .614 4.47M 
Harvey Hendrick '29 (L) 3B^ 6 100 445 399 11 89 0 .338 .400 .494 3.79M 
Arky Vaughan '41 (L) SS* 7 100 446 399 1 47 0 .336 .406 .434 4.01M 
Charlie Gehringer '31 (L) 2B* 8 100 423 392 2 77 0 .349 .395 .454 3.79M 
Nelson Alfieri '13 (R) 3B* Bench 100 220 191 8 33 0 .335 .418 .550 200K 
Tracey App '13 (R) 1B* Bench 100 347 302 14 47 0 .291 .383 .447 200K 
Hassan Dinkelacker '13 (L) LF^ Bench 100 282 239 2 40 0 .343 .433 .414 200K 
Gus Krausert '13 (R) 2B* Bench 100 200 183 4 28 0 .246 .305 .350 200K 
William Mirus '13 (S) 3B* Bench 100 250 206 12 41 0 .345 .460 .578 200K 
Jesus Rhinehimer '13 (R) C * Bench 100 325 313 5 45 0 .252 .277 .364 200K 
Ian Wicktora '13 (R) SS* Bench 100 303 280 2 28 0 .311 .363 .414 200K 

Pitcher Role % G W-L SV IP ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 $
Jack Pfiester '06 (L)   89 (100) 52 13-14 0 277.0 4.55 .277 1.40 3.48 2.57 8.70M
Doc White '05 (L)   100 45 22-11 1 273.2 4.57 .298 1.50 2.63 2.63 8.15M
Doc White '06 (L)   100 38 18-7 1 228.0 4.54 .302 1.50 2.53 2.45 7.90M
Jack Pfiester '07 (L)   100 41 23-3 0 212.0 3.35 .280 1.39 2.76 2.59 6.65M

Antione Blair '13 (R)   24 (24) 23 0-16 0 120.2 26.55 .510 4.18 1.57 11.56 200K
George McQuillan '07 (R)   90 (91) 28 3-4 6 42.1 5.10 .280 1.51 3.40 3.61 1.91M
Jake Northrop '18 (R)   86 (87) 33 5-0 7 46.2 0.19 .172 0.77 0.19 1.16 2.23M
Cisco Carlos '67 (R)   78 (79) 35 3-2 7 37.2 4.06 .286 1.49 6.21 2.87 1.94M
Johnny Niggeling '43 (R)   90 (91) 34 1-1 7 52.1 2.06 .197 1.22 4.47 4.64 2.46M
Nick Maddox '07 (R)   68 (77) 36 1-3 8 44.1 3.65 .267 1.51 4.06 3.86 2.21M

Things were going smoothly in the post-season until we lost the first two games of the second round.  At that point I figured I might as well burn out my stud bullpen and try to win four of the next five.  We squeaked through in seven games, but the pitching was shot for the WS -- especially after the 19-inning second game which featured my tired AAA mop holding the fort in the 17th and 18th innings before finally giving up the losing run in the 19th. 

Anyway, I think I'm finished with Open Leagues for a while.  But next time someone moans about how you can't win in OLs without a cookie team in a pitcher's park, please link them to this thread!

10/25/2013 3:20 PM
We will crazystengel ! Great work, nice team. I have a Kingdome team in an OL now, currently 6-2 at the start of the season. We will see if I can reproduce - or even excel - your results. 
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