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10/8/2013 9:23 PM
They're up!  Critique, hate, enjoy, etc...

www.bpisports.com

10/9/2013 8:32 PM
I stopped reading here:

Rank

W

L

Team

BPI

1

5

0

Oklahoma

90.373




10/9/2013 9:50 PM
lolwut
10/9/2013 9:59 PM
OU #1! I'm in favor!
10/12/2013 8:39 PM (edited)
Georgia over Clemson is just very very odd especially this early in the season (and that was obviously before last week).
10/14/2013 9:10 PM
You guys will have a field day this week

http://www.bpisports.com/


10/14/2013 9:21 PM
I know I have asked this before but is the idea to get all the teams in order or is the idea to get #1 and #2 right?

I mean in the end if the BCS gets  1 and 2 right then its whatever on the rest. What is your goal?

10/14/2013 9:29 PM
My rankings should correctly order teams #1 through #125 based on the results accrued, to date, analyzed on an individual game basis.

So it's supposed to do everything you said...1 v. 2...my initial vision was naming the 8 playoff teams through the top 8 in my rankings (pending there was an 8 team playoff of course), and getting the entire FBS "right" top to bottom.

10/15/2013 9:41 AM
Posted by colonels19 on 10/14/2013 9:10:00 PM (view original):
You guys will have a field day this week

http://www.bpisports.com/


If you know we will have a field day then you know it doesn't pass the eye or smell test and if you can't pass that, then why even bother?
10/15/2013 9:49 AM
Well, I think he wants you to click his link which generates revenue.  

But, on a larger note, I think he believes, when all it said and done, that his rankings will reflect the "true" rankings of the teams.   Problem is that until conference games are in full force, the Georgia State/Alabama game really hurts 'bama. 
10/15/2013 10:27 AM
Thats sorta why I was asking what his goal is... I dont think you can get a formula that will get them right 1-125. I do think you can get a formula that will get the top teams right though.
10/15/2013 10:39 AM
That discussion was held a few months ago.    Truthfully, there are 30-50 teams that matter.    Teams that can be at the top or can beat the top.     The difference between a Georgia State and a Kentucky is neglible.   Sure Kentucky can put up a fight and make a game of it but, if you lose to Kentucky, you're not a legit contender.   The same can be said about the bottom teams in the Big Five conferences(ACC, SEC, B10, B12 and PAC12).   They're no different than the bottom of CUSA or the MAC.  And they're no different than the App States of the world.    Yet colonels wants to treat them so.  That's why his **** gets skewed. 
10/15/2013 10:58 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/15/2013 10:39:00 AM (view original):
That discussion was held a few months ago.    Truthfully, there are 30-50 teams that matter.    Teams that can be at the top or can beat the top.     The difference between a Georgia State and a Kentucky is neglible.   Sure Kentucky can put up a fight and make a game of it but, if you lose to Kentucky, you're not a legit contender.   The same can be said about the bottom teams in the Big Five conferences(ACC, SEC, B10, B12 and PAC12).   They're no different than the bottom of CUSA or the MAC.  And they're no different than the App States of the world.    Yet colonels wants to treat them so.  That's why his **** gets skewed. 
exactly it all comes back to that.  There is no practical difference to a top tier team between the 125th ranked team and the 100th ranked team.  The rankings need to account for that or they are total garbage.  That is colonels fundamental problem.  He wants every game to count and that just isn't the reality of the situation.  That is why I have long suggested he just tier teams to a certain point.  You know something like 100-125 worth the same, 90-99 worth the same, 82-89 worth the same, 75-81 worth the same, 70-74 worth the same, 67-69 worth the same, 64-66 worth the same, 62-63 worth the same, 60-61 worth the same, and then individualize.  Trial and error and utilization of historical records would tell you where the tier divisions should be.  Something like that would help his rankings a great deal since a Miami (OH) would be treated the same as say Central Michigan (the 125 and 100 teams in his current poll).  Again, I'm just randomly coming up with tier division lines, it may make sense to have less breaks with more teams in them, it may make sense to continue the tiering a bit longer, who knows, but to treat every team as an individual is just silly.
10/15/2013 12:23 PM
I mentioned something along that line also but it has it's flaws too.   Is there a discernible difference between 68 and 73?    It seems like an impossible task unless you work it backwards(meaning do it after the season when we somewhat "know" who the best teams are).     Maybe do last season and use it as a protype for this season. 
10/15/2013 2:45 PM
Here is 5 of the 6 computer polls used in the BCS. The 6th is not out until next weekend.

Colley:


 1. Florida St
  2. Clemson
  3. Missouri
  4. Alabama
  5. Oregon
  6. Ohio St
  7. LSU
  8. UCLA
  9. Stanford
  10. Georgia
  11. Texas A&M
  12. Baylor
  13. Miami (FL)
  14. Virginia Tech
  15. Houston
  16. Northern Illinois
  17. Texas Tech
  18. Louisville
  19. Auburn
  20. South Carolina
  21. Oklahoma
  22. Fresno St
  23. Oregon St
  24. Michigan St
  25. Michigan


Anderson

1.2.3.UCLA
4.Clemson
5.6.7.LSU
8.9.10.Baylor
11 Stanford
12 13 14 15 16 Tech
17 Tech
18 A&M
19 21 22 23 24 25

1
Alabama
2
Oregon
3
Clemson
4
Ohio State
5
LSU
6
Stanford
7
South Carolina
8
Oklahoma
9
Texas A&M
10
Missouri
11
Louisville
12
Georgia
13
Northern Illinois
14
Florida State
15
Baylor
16
Notre Dame
17
UCLA
18
Michigan
19
Oregon State
20
Utah
21
Texas Tech
22
Miami (Fla.)
23
Brigham Young
24
Texas
25
Washington

1 Oregon 2 Alabama 3 Florida State 4 Baylor
5 Missouri
 
6 LSU
7 UCLA 8 Texas A&M   9 Louisville
10 Ohio State          
11 Clemson   12 Miami-Florida        13 Georgia             
14 Wisconsin           
15 Washington                                   
16 Florida             
17 Stanford            
18 South Carolina      
19 Oklahoma            
20 Texas Tech     21 Mississippi           

 
 
 
 
 



Point is computer polls are going to be quirkier in the beginning of the season, and should smooth out as the season progresses.

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