10/29/2013 2:09 PM
Posted by bunkerbuster on 10/29/2013 11:03:00 AM (view original):
55 bunkerbuster 34-1 10-1 15-0 9-0 16-0 1 2 9 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
54 bunkerbuster 35-0 12-0 14-0 9-0 16-0 1 1 15 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
53 bunkerbuster 32-3 10-1 13-2 9-0 14-2 1 2 6 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
52 bunkerbuster 22-8 11-2 9-4 2-2 14-2   26 18 A+ Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (2nd Round)
51 bunkerbuster 34-1 12-0 13-1 9-0 16-0 1 1 3 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
50 bunkerbuster 35-0 12-0 14-0 9-0 16-0 1 1 2 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
wow that is pretty damn impressive, where was that? surprised ive never seen that posted before, 5/6 has only happened one other time i think, that being rails 5/5 with one season on either side :)
10/29/2013 2:16 PM
that run by jsajsa is pretty amazing too. havent seen newer runs like this and that other one by bunkerbuster in a long time, since the new worlds got a bit older
10/29/2013 2:17 PM
The bizarro world
10/29/2013 2:19 PM
ill have to run those dynasty lists to get the more recent amazing accomplishments on there... been forever since i did that
10/29/2013 2:32 PM
jsajsa has been incredible--I'm not sure how he does it. It's like the rest of us in Crum are playing for second. 
10/29/2013 3:44 PM
Have these types of runs happened in D1? I know OR had a pretty great run early in the Tark days with UCONN. But now it seems there are too many really good coaches at D1 for 1 coach to dominate in that way.
10/29/2013 3:53 PM (edited)
OR won 5 titles in 8 years including the only d1 3peat ever, when d1 tark was very young. i won 5 titles in 9 years later in tark, but it was split across two schools, colorado and texas a&m. i dont think there are other d1 runs that are quite there in terms of # of titles in so many seasons, but lostmyth and clone both had some really good 10 year runs with a few titles and some other good seasons. if you check the old dynasty lists you can see what the best d1 run was according to that, it wouldn't include my 5/9 though because it was across two schools... i dont think ORs was on top because the world strength would have ranked a lot lower than other situations, its hard to say what exactly the best run is because of that difference in time and situation and all. i think the dynasty lists i did are the only attempt to ever reconcile those differences, and i was actually pretty happy with the results, speaking as someone who is pretty picky about such things. but it doesnt take into account things like how much money your conference got vs others, how good were the coaches around you, etc... which all makes a very big difference in d1 (as you know). all world strength takes into account in my dynasty lists is the human population and how long coaches have coached at that school. i cant remember how it treats a new coach at a long run human school but i think it counts better than a new coach at a long run sim school and worse than the same human at the same school for a long time (i think 10 seasons is the max it cares about)
10/29/2013 4:10 PM
7 out of 11 (including 5 straight title games) and a coach handoff UglySkunk3 to me.  Maybe not the best team run ever, but in the discussion.

La Verne (Knight)

37 dukenilnil 31-4 9-2 13-2 9-0 13-3 1 1 1 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
36 dukenilnil 30-4 11-0 12-3 7-1 15-1 1 1 1 A+ Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
National Champion
35 dukenilnil 29-6 11-1 11-3 7-2 13-3 2 3 1 A+ NT At-large Bid
NT (Championship Game)
34 uglyskunk3 33-2 12-1 12-1 9-0 15-1 1 1 2 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
33 uglyskunk3 34-1 12-0 13-1 9-0 16-0 1 1 5 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
32 uglyskunk3 30-3 13-1 12-0 5-2 15-1 4 1 2 A+ Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (Elite 8)
31 uglyskunk3 27-4 12-1 11-2 4-1 16-0 10 8 18 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (2nd Round)
30 uglyskunk3 30-4 14-2 9-1 7-1 13-3 1 1 3 A+ Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
National Champion
29 uglyskunk3 33-2 14-0 10-2 9-0 16-0 1 3 25 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
28 uglyskunk3 27-5 10-1 12-3 5-1 13-3 8 9 16 A+ CT Champion
NT (Sweet 16)
27 uglyskunk3 32-3 10-1 13-2 9-0 14-2 3 2 10 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
National Champion
10/29/2013 5:18 PM

I forgot about that run Duke. It was insane how good that conference was. My dominant run started in season 40 where I won 3 in 8 seasons went to 5 title games total including 4 in a row and went to the E8 every one of those seasons. It's crazy to think that the coach who authored "how to win at D2 and D3" was at best the 4th most successful coach in the conference during that span.

10/29/2013 5:44 PM
Posted by tarvolon on 10/29/2013 2:32:00 PM (view original):
jsajsa has been incredible--I'm not sure how he does it. It's like the rest of us in Crum are playing for second. 
Says the guy who made me finish second 2 seasons ago...

And thanks for the recognition, Dan! I'm very proud of the elite eight streak, and the 9 out of 10 top 2 RPI seasons. Frankly, championships are more about just plain luck.
10/29/2013 9:18 PM
After seeing these other amazing runs, I would put jsa's on par with most of them, just because of consistency.  Anyone who gets to the elite 8 is usually a championship contender at least, which is not so for anyone who get knocked out before then.
But that run by rails is head and shoulders above the rest.  that's just insane.  
10/29/2013 10:56 PM
Posted by dan2044 on 10/29/2013 9:18:00 PM (view original):
After seeing these other amazing runs, I would put jsa's on par with most of them, just because of consistency.  Anyone who gets to the elite 8 is usually a championship contender at least, which is not so for anyone who get knocked out before then.
But that run by rails is head and shoulders above the rest.  that's just insane.  
Just so I'm sure I'm reading that right, are you saying that any team that gets/got knocked out before the Elite Eight is not/was not a championship contender?
10/29/2013 11:13 PM
Posted by dcy0827 on 10/29/2013 10:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dan2044 on 10/29/2013 9:18:00 PM (view original):
After seeing these other amazing runs, I would put jsa's on par with most of them, just because of consistency.  Anyone who gets to the elite 8 is usually a championship contender at least, which is not so for anyone who get knocked out before then.
But that run by rails is head and shoulders above the rest.  that's just insane.  
Just so I'm sure I'm reading that right, are you saying that any team that gets/got knocked out before the Elite Eight is not/was not a championship contender?
Obviously there are teams that are contenders who get upset early,  I more meant it in the opposite way, that any team that makes the elite 8 has a chance to win the title,  
10/30/2013 9:34 AM
Posted by dan2044 on 10/29/2013 11:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dcy0827 on 10/29/2013 10:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dan2044 on 10/29/2013 9:18:00 PM (view original):
After seeing these other amazing runs, I would put jsa's on par with most of them, just because of consistency.  Anyone who gets to the elite 8 is usually a championship contender at least, which is not so for anyone who get knocked out before then.
But that run by rails is head and shoulders above the rest.  that's just insane.  
Just so I'm sure I'm reading that right, are you saying that any team that gets/got knocked out before the Elite Eight is not/was not a championship contender?
Obviously there are teams that are contenders who get upset early,  I more meant it in the opposite way, that any team that makes the elite 8 has a chance to win the title,  
i dont know, as the guy who held the longest elite 8 streak in HD for years, ive got to disagree. its really not that hard to luck into an elite 8 with a borderline top 25 team. you of course have a statistically significant chance to win at that point, with 3 games to go, but thats not really the point. ive never actually had one of the teams i considered really really good not win a championship, but ive had loads of garbage teams make the final four and championship game, and a handful of title favorites who never made the elite 8. i suspect many other long time coaches can say the same.
10/30/2013 9:49 AM
Posted by jsajsa on 10/29/2013 5:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tarvolon on 10/29/2013 2:32:00 PM (view original):
jsajsa has been incredible--I'm not sure how he does it. It's like the rest of us in Crum are playing for second. 
Says the guy who made me finish second 2 seasons ago...

And thanks for the recognition, Dan! I'm very proud of the elite eight streak, and the 9 out of 10 top 2 RPI seasons. Frankly, championships are more about just plain luck.
i feel like RPI is so easy to manipulate that i never could put much stock in the consistency. besides, it penalizes teams who play for the championship from the beginning of the season, which i highly recommend for championship level teams. let someone else get the #1 rpi and go for the title, thats how ive always looked at it. not that it makes your incredible run any less incredible! i just never really cared for RPI streaks, its cool, but i dont think it means much. now that NT consistency, thats a different story :) i think that is really something. theres a ton of luck in a single NT run, but over 10 seasons, its enough games to pretty well flush things out.
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