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12/14/2013 1:00 PM (edited)
ROUND TWO


Just like Round 1 was similar to Round 1 in the first "Bottom Dump" Tournament, this round will be similar to Round 2 of the first tournament. Since we'll know which league everyone is placed in and using the draft order that is predetermined by your W/L record in the previous round of the tournament, you will choose the following:  (1) which of the two team choices you want in that league (A.L. or N.L.) and (2) what time-frame you want, and (3) whether you want hitting or pitching. The draft will be snake-style (1-24, 24-1) at that point.  For example, if you have the first pick in League 1, you may decide to go with the offense of the 1928-1941 Yankees. Things should pretty well even out though as you will end up with one of the two final choices of the pitching time-frames that are still left. It doesn't matter which you choose first - hitting or pitching. You get one of each, and with thirteen selections on each side, even the person with the last pick will at least have a choice.

One last thing - if you want to swap draft slots (i.e., you're scheduled to pick first but would rather pick around tenth to get a better draft pick in the second round of the draft, etc.), you may do so - as long as both parties post their agreement to the swap in the draft thread. However, please use common sense when looking for a swapping partner. 24 hours at the most should be sufficient to find someone to swap with. We don't need someone waiting for days and days, hoping someone will swap with them.
 
Alignment will be determined by the order of the draft (i.e., the first four picks that go with an N.L. squad will make up the N.L. East, etc.).
 
Here are some other items of interest:
 
NO: Clones – Not In This Round.
NO: Player Trades, Waiver Wire or A.A.A.
YES: Designated Hitter, Draft Slot Trading (must be done during the first round and will apply to the second round as well)
NO: Injuries – They’ll Be Turned Off.
You may use either full or partial players seasons in this round.
 
CAP –$110
 
Stadium – For this round, we’re going to go with an even playing field (no pun intended). WHATIFSPORTS Park for Everyone!
 
Who Moves On?


Once Round TWO is complete, All Division winners and the top 10 teams from each league that didn't win a division will automatically earn a berth in Round Three. That’s 128 teams for 144 spots. As noted above, one thing that did come up in the previous tournament was that by splitting up the owners that move on as per the above criteria, we ended up with a particular owner or two having three or four teams in one Round Two league and then none in any of the others. When something along those lines happens, I'll find someone to swap out one or more of those teams to place them in a different league. I always make sure that when that happens, I swap two teams that have either the same amount of Wins (from their League 1 team) or at the most, within one (i.e., a team with 84 Wins will be swapped out with a team with 84 Wins - unless one can't be found; therefore, we'll look for a team with either 83 or 85 Wins to swap them with, etc.). That way, an owner with multiple teams in the next round will get to play in as many of the different leagues as possible instead of stacking them all up in one or two.
 
The final sixteen teams will come from the best of the other 64 teams across all eight leagues. Again, this will give everyone something to keep playing for, even if your team isn’t very competitive in your division or for the wildcard.
 
All N.L. East Division winners go into Round Three, League 1.
All N.L. Central Division winners go into Round Three, League 2.
All N.L. West Division winners go into Round Three, League 3.
All A.L. East Division winners go into Round Three, League 4.
All A.L. Central Division winners go into Round Three, League 5.
All A.L. West Division winners go into Round Three, League 6.
 
That’s 8 teams in each of the Round Three leagues and 48 teams total.  Once we’ve removed the division-winning teams above, I’ll then do the following:
 
The next eight best teams in League 1 will go into Round Three, League 1.
The next eight best teams in League 2 will go into Round Three, League 2.
The next eight best teams in League 3 will go into Round Three, League 3.
The next eight best teams in League 4 will go into Round Three, League 4.
The next eight best teams in League 5 will go into Round Three, League 5.
The next eight best teams in League 6 will go into Round Three, League 6.
The next eight best teams in League 7 will be split up between Round Three, Leagues 1 and 3.
The next eight best teams in League 8 will be split up between Round Three, Leagues 4 and 6.
 
That’s 64 more spots to go along with the 48 already accounted for which makes 112 total. The final 32 spots will be filled by the teams not yet accounted for above. They will be placed in a league by me, based on balance of the league and owner/team situations.

THE CHOICES YOU'LL HAVE IN EACH LEAGUE:
 
 
11/3/2013 8:59 AM (edited)
LEAGUE ONE:
Cardinals vs. Yankees

LEAGUE TWO:
Giants vs. Red Sox

LEAGUE THREE:
Reds vs. Tigers

LEAGUE FOUR:
Cubs vs. White Sox

LEAGUE FIVE:
Dodgers vs. Athletics

LEAGUE SIX:
Pirates vs. Senators/Twins

LEAGUE SEVEN:
Phillies vs. Browns/Orioles

LEAGUE EIGHT:
Braves vs. Indians
 
  
 

HITTING TIME-FRAMES
1904-1917
1912-1925
1920-1933
1928-1941
1936-1949
1944-1957
1952-1965
1960-1973
1968-1981
1976-1989
1984-1997
1992-2005
2000-2013
 

PITCHING TIME-FRAMES
1904-1917
1912-1925
1920-1933
1928-1941
1936-1949
1944-1957
1952-1965
1960-1973
1968-1981
1976-1989
1984-1997
1992-2005
2000-2013
 
 
 
12/14/2013 1:32 PM (edited)
ROUND THREE:


To start things off, here's what I did:  I found the best hitting (based on Runs per Game) squad for each season since 1901 in each league.  Then, I found the best pitching (based on E.R.A.) squad for each season since 1901 in each league.  That gave me 113 choices for N.L. and A.L. each.  Needing 150 choices from both N.L. and A.L. to do what I was trying to accomplish, I then found 37 of the finest pitching and hitting squads from each league that didn't fit the above criteria to round things out.  Therefore, 150 N.L. and 150 A.L. pitching and hitting squads - 25 choices in each of the six leagues of this round.

Okay, here's the deal: Once I've figured out who's in which leagues, I'll establish a draft order for each league, based on the W/L totals (from the 162-game regular season) from the Round TWO leagues. Then, each of the six leagues will begin a draft where each owner will select (1) whether they want an A.L. team or an N.L. team, and (2) which roster they would like to choose to help build their team with. In this set-up, each owner will get two "hitting" squads and two "pitching" squads with which to build your team's roster. For example, you may end up with the 1906 Cubs Hitting, as well as the 1971 Pirates Hitting. Then, you could end up with the 1923 Reds Pitching along with the 1969 Mets Pitching. When you're finished drafting, you'll have two teams that you can build your pitching staff with and you'll have two teams to build your position player roster with. YOU MUST HAVE SIX PLAYERS MINIMUM FROM EACH OF THESE FOUR SELECTIONS. The 25th player can come from any of the four selections.
 
REMEMBER THIS: You can't take a pitcher from one of your "hitting" selections and you can't take a hitter from one of your "pitching" selections. All pitchers must come from your two pitching selections and all hitters must come from your two "hitting" selections.
 
ALSO: No mixing and matching A.L. and N.L. Once you make your first selection, it will determine whether you're going to be all N.L. or all A.L.
 
ALSO (and here's where it can get tough): You must have four position players from each of your hitting squads achieve 550 PA's during the course of the 162-game regular season. That will make sure that no one just uses their second hitting choice as "filler." Also, that will allow you to platoon one player should you decide to go that route. ALSO (again): You must have two Starting Pitchers from each of your two pitching squads achieve 180 IP's during the course of the 162-game regular season.
 
The draft order for each league will be set up as such: 1-24, 24-1, 24-1 and 1-24. There are 25 selections in each grouping so even the person who picks last in each draft will at least have a choice of two different selections.
 
Alignment will be in the order the teams are selected. The first four N.L. squads selected will make up the N.L. East, etc. etc.
 
Here are some other items of interest:
 
YES:  Clones. Even though they're allowed, I don't see where they're going to be in play very much.
YES:  Designated Hitter
NO:  Waiver Wire, Trades or A.A.A.
NO:  Injuries – They’ll Be Turned Off.
 
You may use either full or partial players seasons in this round.
 
CAP –$110
 
Stadium – In this Round, everyone is going to use WhatIfSports Stadium.
 
Who Moves On?

Once Round THREE is complete, the top 14 teams from each league will automatically earn a berth in Round Three. That’s 84 teams for 96 spots. The final twelve teams will come from the best of the other 60 teams across all six leagues. Again, this will give everyone something to keep playing for, even if your team isn’t very competitive in your division or for the wildcard.
All Playoff teams from League 1 will go into Round 4, League 1.
All Playoff teams from League 2 will go into Round 4, League 2.
All Playoff teams from League 3 will go into Round 4, League 3.
All Playoff teams from League 4 will go into Round 4, League 4.
The N.L. East and N.L. Central Division Winners from Leagues 5 and 6 go into Round 4, League 1.
The A.L. East and A.L. Central Division Winners from Leagues 5 and 6 go into Round 4, League 2.
The N.L. West and N.L. Wildcard Winners from Leagues 5 and 6 go into Round 4, League 3.
The A.L. West and A.L. Wildcard Winners from Leagues 5 and 6 go into Round 4, League 4.
That’s 12 teams in each of the Round Four leagues and 48 teams total. After that…

The next six best teams in League 1 will go into Round Four, League 1.
The next six best teams in League 2 will go into Round Four, League 2.
The next six best teams in League 3 will go into Round Four, League 3.
The next six best teams in League 4 will go into Round Four, League 4.
The next six best teams in League 5 will be split up between Round Four, Leagues 1 and 2.
The next six best teams in League 6 will be split up between Round Four, Leagues 3 and 4.
That’s 36 more spots to go along with the 48 already accounted for which makes 84 total. The final 12 spots will be filled by the teams not yet accounted for above. They will be placed in a league by me, based on balance of the league and owner/team situations.
 
 
 THE CHOICES YOU'LL HAVE IN EACH LEAGUE:

 
12/14/2013 1:15 PM (edited)
LEAGUE ONE:
 

N.L. Hitting
1901 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1906 - Chicago Cubs
1912 - New York Giants
1918 - Cincinnati Reds
1923 - New York Giants
1928 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1930 - Philadelphia Phillies
1933 - St. Louis Cardinals
1940 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1945 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1951 - New York Giants
1954 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1958 - Chicago Cubs
1962 - San Francisco Giants
1966 - Atlanta Braves
1971 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1976 - Cincinnati Reds
1980 - St. Louis Cardinals
1986 - New York Mets
1990 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1994 - Cincinnati Reds
1998 - Houston Astros
2002 - Arizona Diamondbacks
2006 - Atlanta Braves
2009 - Colorado Rockies
 
 
N.L. Pitching
1901 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1905 - Chicago Cubs
1908 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1910 - New York Giants
1914 - St. Louis Cardinals
1917 - New York Giants
1923 - Cincinnati Reds
1929 - New York Giants
1935 - Chicago Cubs
1940 - Cincinnati Reds
1946 - St. Louis Cardinals
1951 - New York Giants
1957 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1963 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1966 - San Francisco Giants
1969 - New York Mets
1974 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1979 - Montreal Expos
1983 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1988 - New York Mets
1991 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1996 - Atlanta Braves
2000 - Atlanta Braves
2005 - St. Louis Cardinals
2011 - Philadelphia Phillies
 
 
A.L. Hitting
1901 - Chicago White Sox
1907 - Detroit Tigers
1912 - Philadelphia Athletics
1918 - New York Yankees
1922 - St. Louis Browns
1925 - Detroit Tigers
1928 - New York Yankees
1932 - Philadelphia Athletics
1937 - New York Yankees
1938 - Boston Red Sox
1943 - Washington Senators
1947 - New York Yankees
1955 - Detroit Tigers
1958 - New York Yankees
1963 - Minnesota Twins
1968 - Detroit Tigers
1974 - Boston Red Sox
1979 - California Angels
1983 - Chicago White Sox
1988 - Boston Red Sox
1994 - Cleveland Indians
1998 - New York Yankees
2003 - Boston Red Sox
2006 - Cleveland Indians
2010 - New York Yankees
 
 
A.L. Pitching
1901 - Chicago White Sox
1907 - Cleveland Naps
1908 - Boston Red Sox
1910 - Chicago White Sox
1915 - Washington Senators
1918 - Boston Red Sox
1924 - Washington Senators
1928 - Philadelphia Athletics
1934 - New York Yankees
1939 - New York Yankees
1945 - Detroit Tigers
1950 - Cleveland Indians
1953 - Chicago White Sox
1956 - Cleveland Indians
1961 - New York Yankees
1965 - Baltimore Orioles
1973 - Baltimore Orioles
1977 - Kansas City Royals
1982 - Detroit Tigers
1987 - Toronto Blue Jays
1993 - Chicago White Sox
1998 - Boston Red Sox
2002 - Oakland Athletics
2007 - Boston Red Sox
2013 - Kansas City Royals
 
 
12/14/2013 1:14 PM (edited)
LEAGUE TWO:

 
N.L. Hitting
1901 - St. Louis Cardinals
1907 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1914 - New York Giants
1919 - New York Giants
1924 - New York Giants
1929 - Chicago Cubs
1930 - Brooklyn Robins
1934 - St. Louis Cardinals
1941 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1946 - St. Louis Cardinals
1950 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1955 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1959 - Cincinnati Reds
1963 - St. Louis Cardinals
1967 - Chicago Cubs
1972 - Houston Astros
1975 - Philadelphia Phillies
1979 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1985 - St. Louis Cardinals
1990 - New York Mets
1994 - Houston Astros
2000 - Colorado Rockies
2003 - Atlanta Braves
2006 - Philadelphia Phillies
2010 - Cincinnati Reds
 
 
N.L. Pitching
1902 - Chicago Orphans
1905 - New York Giants
1908 - Chicago Cubs
1909 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1915 - Philadelphia Phillies
1918 - Chicago Cubs
1922 - New York Giants
1928 - Brooklyn Robins
1934 - New York Giants
1941 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1947 - St. Louis Cardinals
1952 - Philadelphia Phillies
1958 - Milwaukee Braves
1963 - Chicago Cubs
1967 - Cincinnati Reds
1973 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1974 - Atlanta Braves
1981 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1984 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1988 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1992 - Montreal Expos
1996 - Los Angeles Dodgers
2001 - Atlanta Braves
2006 - San Diego Padres
2011 - San Francisco Giants
 
 
A.L. Hitting
1902 - Philadelphia Athletics
1908 - Detroit Tigers
1917 - Chicago White Sox
1920 - Cleveland Indians
1922 - Detroit Tigers
1926 - New York Yankees
1928 - Philadelphia Athletics
1933 - New York Yankees
1934 - Detroit Tigers
1939 - Boston Red Sox
1942 - New York Yankees
1948 - Boston Red Sox
1956 - New York Yankees
1959 - Cleveland Indians
1964 - Minnesota Twins
1970 - Baltimore Orioles
1975 - Boston Red Sox
1978 - Milwaukee Brewers
1984 - Detroit Tigers
1989 - Boston Red Sox
1994 - New York Yankees
1999 - Cleveland Indians
2004 - Boston Red Sox
2007 - New York Yankees
2013 - Boston Red Sox
 
 
A.L. Pitching
1905 - Chicago White Sox
1906 - Cleveland Naps
1909 - Detroit Tigers
1912 - Washington Senators
1915 - Boston Red Sox
1919 - New York Yankees
1922 - St. Louis Browns
1926 - Philadelphia Athletics
1932 - New York Yankees
1940 - Cleveland Indians
1944 - Detroit Tigers
1951 - Cleveland Indians
1954 - Chicago White Sox
1958 - New York Yankees
1962 - Baltimore Orioles
1968 - Baltimore Orioles
1973 - Oakland Athletics
1975 - Baltimore Orioles
1980 - Oakland Athletics
1985 - Toronto Blue Jays
1990 - Oakland Athletics
1996 - Cleveland Indians
2001 - Oakland Athletics
2005 - Cleveland Indians
2011 - Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
 
 
 
12/14/2013 1:11 PM (edited)
LEAGUE THREE:
 
 
N.L. Hitting
1902 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1908 - New York Giants
1913 - Chicago Cubs
1920 - New York Giants
1923 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1927 - New York Giants
1930 - St. Louis Cardinals
1935 - Chicago Cubs
1939 - St. Louis Cardinals
1947 - New York Giants
1951 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1956 - Cincinnati Reds
1959 - Milwaukee Braves
1963 - San Francisco Giants
1968 - Cincinnati Reds
1973 - Atlanta Braves
1977 - Cincinnati Reds
1981 - Philadelphia Phillies
1987 - New York Mets
1991 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1995 - Cincinnati Reds
2001 - Colorado Rockies
2005 - Philadelphia Phillies
2008 - Chicago Cubs
2011 - St. Louis Cardinals
 
 
N.L. Pitching
1902 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1906 - Chicago Cubs
1908 - Philadelphia Phillies
1911 - New York Giants
1916 - Brooklyn Robins
1919 - Chicago Cubs
1924 - Cincinnati Reds
1931 - New York Giants
1937 - Boston Bees
1942 - St. Louis Cardinals
1945 - Chicago Cubs
1953 - Milwaukee Braves
1959 - San Francisco Giants
1964 - Cincinnati Reds
1967 - San Francisco Giants
1972 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1976 - New York Mets
1982 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1985 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1989 - New York Mets
1992 - Atlanta Braves
1997 - Atlanta Braves
2002 - Atlanta Braves
2007 - San Diego Padres
2013 - Los Angeles Dodgers
 
 
A.L. Hitting
1903 - Boston Americans
1909 - Detroit Tigers
1913 - Philadelphia Athletics
1919 - Chicago White Sox
1923 - New York Yankees
1925 - St. Louis Browns
1930 - New York Yankees
1933 - Philadelphia Athletics
1938 - New York Yankees
1940 - Detroit Tigers
1941 - Boston Red Sox
1949 - Boston Red Sox
1953 - New York Yankees
1960 - New York Yankees
1965 - Minnesota Twins
1970 - Boston Red Sox
1973 - Oakland Athletics
1981 - Boston Red Sox
1985 - New York Yankees
1992 - Detroit Tigers
1995 - Cleveland Indians
1999 - Texas Rangers
2005 - Boston Red Sox
2006 - New York Yankees
2012 - Texas Rangers
 
 
A.L. Pitching
1904 - Cleveland Naps
1906 - Chicago White Sox
1908 - St. Louis Browns
1914 - Boston Red Sox
1918 - Washington Senators
1920 - New York Yankees
1929 - Philadelphia Athletics
1933 - Cleveland Indians
1935 - New York Yankees
1942 - New York Yankees
1945 - Washington Senators
1948 - Cleveland Indians
1953 - New York Yankees
1960 - New York Yankees
1964 - Chicago White Sox
1969 - Baltimore Orioles
1972 - Oakland Athletics
1976 - New York Yankees
1981 - New York Yankees
1986 - Kansas City Royals
1992 - Milwaukee Brewers
1998 - New York Yankees
2002 - Anaheim Angels
2006 - Detroit Tigers
2012 - Tampa Bay Rays
 
 
12/14/2013 1:22 PM
LEAGUE FOUR:
 
 
N.L. Hitting
1903 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1911 - New York Giants
1915 - Philadelphia Phillies
1921 - New York Giants
1925 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1928 - New York Giants
1930 - Chicago Cubs
1936 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1942 - St. Louis Cardinals
1948 - New York Giants
1952 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1957 - Milwaukee Braves
1960 - Milwaukee Braves
1965 - Cincinnati Reds
1970 - San Francisco Giants
1974 - Cincinnati Reds
1976 - Philadelphia Phillies
1982 - Atlanta Braves
1988 - New York Mets
1992 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1995 - Colorado Rockies
1999 - Arizona Diamondbacks
2003 - St. Louis Cardinals
2007 - Philadelphia Phillies
2012 - St. Louis Cardinals
 
 
N.L. Pitching
1903 - Chicago Cubs
1906 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1908 - New York Giants
1910 - Chicago Cubs
1916 - Philadelphia Phillies
1919 - Cincinnati Reds
1926 - Chicago Cubs
1930 - Brooklyn Robins
1936 - New York Giants
1943 - St. Louis Cardinals
1948 - Boston Braves
1954 - New York Giants
1960 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1964 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1968 - San Francisco Giants
1970 - New York Mets
1975 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1979 - Houston Astros
1986 - New York Mets
1989 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1993 - Atlanta Braves
1998 - Atlanta Braves
2003 - Los Angeles Dodgers
2010 - San Francisco Giants
2012 - Washington Nationals
 
 
A.L. Hitting
1904 - Cleveland Naps
1910 - Detroit Tigers
1914 - Philadelphia Athletics
1920 - St. Louis Browns
1923 - Cleveland Indians
1927 - New York Yankees
1930 - Philadelphia Athletics
1931 - Cleveland Indians
1936 - New York Yankees
1940 - Boston Red Sox
1945 - New York Yankees
1950 - Boston Red Sox
1957 - New York Yankees
1960 - Chicago White Sox
1966 - Baltimore Orioles
1969 - Minnesota Twins
1977 - Boston Red Sox
1980 - Detroit Tigers
1986 - Cleveland Indians
1990 - Toronto Blue Jays
1996 - Seattle Mariners
2000 - Chicago White Sox
2002 - New York Yankees
2009 - New York Yankees
2011 - Boston Red Sox
 
 
A.L. Pitching
1904 - Boston Americans
1907 - Chicago White Sox
1909 - Philadelphia Athletics
1912 - Boston Red Sox
1916 - Chicago White Sox
1919 - Cleveland Indians
1927 - New York Yankees
1931 - Philadelphia Athletics
1938 - New York Yankees
1941 - Chicago White Sox
1944 - St. Louis Browns
1952 - New York Yankees
1955 - Chicago White Sox
1960 - Baltimore Orioles
1963 - New York Yankees
1966 - Minnesota Twins
1970 - Baltimore Orioles
1974 - Oakland Athletics
1980 - New York Yankees
1985 - Kansas City Royals
1991 - Toronto Blue Jays
1997 - New York Yankees
2001 - Seattle Mariners
2005 - Chicago White Sox
2010 - Oakland Athletics
 
 
12/14/2013 1:25 PM
LEAGUE FIVE:
 
 
N.L. Hitting
1904 - New York Giants
1909 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1916 - New York Giants
1921 - St. Louis Cardinals
1926 - St. Louis Cardinals
1929 - New York Giants
1931 - Chicago Cubs
1938 - Cincinnati Reds
1943 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1949 - St. Louis Cardinals
1953 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1958 - San Francisco Giants
1960 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1964 - Milwaukee Braves
1969 - Cincinnati Reds
1974 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1977 - Philadelphia Phillies
1983 - Atlanta Braves
1989 - Chicago Cubs
1993 - San Francisco Giants
1996 - Colorado Rockies
2001 - Houston Astros
2004 - St. Louis Cardinals
2009 - Philadelphia Phillies
2012 - Milwaukee Brewers
 

N.L. Pitching
1904 - New York Giants
1907 - Chicago Cubs
1909 - Chicago Cubs
1913 - New York Giants
1916 - Boston Braves
1920 - Brooklyn Robins
1925 - Cincinnati Reds
1932 - Chicago Cubs
1939 - Cincinnati Reds
1944 - St. Louis Cardinals
1950 - Philadelphia Phillies
1955 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1961 - St. Louis Cardinals
1965 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1968 - St. Louis Cardinals
1971 - New York Mets
1977 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1980 - Houston Astros
1986 - Houston Astros
1990 - Montreal Expos
1994 - Montreal Expos
1999 - Atlanta Braves
2005 - Houston Astros
2008 - Los Angeles Dodgers
2013 - Atlanta Braves
 
 
A.L. Hitting
1905 - Philadelphia Athletics
1912 - Boston Red Sox
1915 - Detroit Tigers
1921 - Cleveland Indians
1924 - New York Yankees
1926 - Washington Senators
1929 - Philadelphia Athletics
1932 - New York Yankees
1935 - Detroit Tigers
1941 - New York Yankees
1944 - Boston Red Sox
1951 - Boston Red Sox
1955 - New York Yankees
1961 - Detroit Tigers
1962 - New York Yankees
1972 - Boston Red Sox
1977 - Minnesota Twins
1982 - Milwaukee Brewers
1984 - Boston Red Sox
1993 - Detroit Tigers
1996 - Cleveland Indians
2001 - Seattle Mariners
2004 - New York Yankees
2008 - Texas Rangers
2012 - New York Yankees
 
 
A.L. Pitching
1903 - Boston Americans
1905 - Philadelphia Athletics
1909 - Chicago White Sox
1911 - Boston Red Sox
1913 - Cleveland Naps
1917 - Chicago White Sox
1923 - New York Yankees
1930 - Washington Senators
1937 - New York Yankees
1943 - Detroit Tigers
1947 - New York Yankees
1950 - Detroit Tigers
1954 - Cleveland Indians
1957 - New York Yankees
1963 - Chicago White Sox
1966 - Chicago White Sox
1968 - Cleveland Indians
1971 - Baltimore Orioles
1978 - New York Yankees
1983 - Texas Rangers
1988 - Oakland Athletics
1994 - Chicago White Sox
1999 - Boston Red Sox
2003 - Oakland Athletics
2008 - Toronto Blue Jays
 
 
12/14/2013 1:27 PM
LEAGUE SIX:
 
 
N.L. Hitting
1905 - New York Giants
1910 - Chicago Cubs
1917 - New York Giants
1922 - St. Louis Cardinals
1927 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1930 - New York Giants
1932 - Philadelphia Phillies
1937 - Chicago Cubs
1944 - St. Louis Cardinals
1949 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1954 - St. Louis Cardinals
1956 - Brooklyn Dodgers
1961 - San Francisco Giants
1965 - Milwaukee Braves
1969 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1975 - Cincinnati Reds
1978 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1984 - Chicago Cubs
1989 - San Francisco Giants
1993 - Philadelphia Phillies
1997 - Colorado Rockies
2002 - St. Louis Cardinals
2005 - Cincinnati Reds
2007 - Colorado Rockies
2013 - St. Louis Cardinals
 
 
N.L. Pitching
1904 - Chicago Cubs
1907 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1909 - New York Giants
1912 - New York Giants
1917 - Philadelphia Phillies
1921 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1927 - Brooklyn Robins
1933 - New York Giants
1938 - Chicago Cubs
1944 - Cincinnati Reds
1949 - St. Louis Cardinals
1956 - Milwaukee Braves
1962 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1966 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1969 - St. Louis Cardinals
1972 - Pittsburgh Pirates
1978 - Los Angeles Dodgers
1981 - Houston Astros
1987 - San Francisco Giants
1990 - Cincinnati Reds
1995 - Atlanta Braves
1998 - Houston Astros
2004 - Atlanta Braves
2009 - Los Angeles Dodgers
2012 - Cincinnati Reds
 
 
A.L. Hitting
1906 - Cleveland Naps
1911 - Philadelphia Athletics
1916 - Detroit Tigers
1921 - New York Yankees
1924 - Detroit Tigers
1927 - Philadelphia Athletics
1929 - Detroit Tigers
1931 - New York Yankees
1937 - Detroit Tigers
1939 - New York Yankees
1946 - Boston Red Sox
1952 - Cleveland Indians
1954 - New York Yankees
1961 - New York Yankees
1967 - Boston Red Sox
1971 - Baltimore Orioles
1976 - New York Yankees
1979 - Boston Red Sox
1987 - Detroit Tigers
1991 - Texas Rangers
1997 - Seattle Mariners
2001 - Cleveland Indians
2005 - New York Yankees
2008 - Boston Red Sox
2013 - Detroit Tigers
 
 
A.L. Pitching
1902 - Boston Americans
1906 - St. Louis Browns
1908 - Cleveland Naps
1910 - Philadelphia Athletics
1913 - Chicago White Sox
1917 - Boston Red Sox
1921 - New York Yankees
1925 - Washington Senators
1936 - New York Yankees
1943 - New York Yankees
1946 - Chicago White Sox
1949 - Cleveland Indians
1955 - New York Yankees
1959 - Chicago White Sox
1961 - Baltimore Orioles
1967 - Chicago White Sox
1970 - Minnesota Twins
1972 - Baltimore Orioles
1979 - Baltimore Orioles
1984 - Detroit Tigers
1989 - Oakland Athletics
1995 - Cleveland Indians
2000 - Boston Red Sox
2004 - Minnesota Twins
2009 - Seattle Mariners
 
 
4/5/2014 12:05 AM

ROUND FOUR


I went through the stats pages for every season from 1902 through 2013.  I took the four teams that when stacked in order by winning percentage with all of the other Major League teams that year, fell right smack dab in the middle of the standings.  This is a virtual "potpourri" of teams and players that don't often get used in our leagues together.  

In this round, you simply pick the four-team combination from a particular year that you want to use.  You must have a minimum of six players from each of the four teams you pick.  The 25th player can come from any of the four teams that you pick.  No players from any other team/year can be on your roster - only those four teams.  There's only one round of drafting in each of the four leagues in this Round Four of the tournament so we should be playing fairly quick.  Also, there are 28 selections to choose from in each league so even if you pick 24th, you still have five different choices to pick from.

There will be NO N.L. vs. A.L. split in this round.  Draft order for each league will be determined by the number of wins in the previous round. 
Alignment will be as per the draft order (unless the same owner picks twice within a four pick space - then I'll simply move one of his choices down or up a division to separate them).


Here are some other items of interest:

NO: Waiver Wire, Trades or A.A.A.
NO: Designated Hitter.
NO: Clones
NO: Injuries – They’ll Be Turned Off.

You may use either full or partial players seasons in this round.

CAP –None – Build the best roster you can!

Stadium – You must use a park that one of your four teams called "Home" that particular year.


Who Moves On?

Once Round FOUR is complete, the top 10 teams from each league will automatically earn a berth in Round Three. That’s 40 teams for 48 spots. The final eight teams will come from the best of the other 56 teams across all four leagues. Again, this will give everyone something to keep playing for, even if your team isn’t very competitive in your division or for the wildcard.

All Playoff teams from Leagues 1 and 2 will go into Round 5, League 1.
All Playoff teams from Leagues 3 and 4 will go into Round 5, League 2.

That’s 16 teams in each of the Round Five leagues and 32 teams total. After that, the final 16 spots will be filled by the teams not yet accounted for above. They will be placed in a league by me, based on balance of the league and owner/team situations.

 
Here are your choices:


4/5/2014 12:07 AM


LEAGUE ONE:
 
1902: Boston Beaneaters / Cincinnati Reds / Cleveland Blues / Chicago Cubs
1903: Cincinnati Reds / Brooklyn Superbas / New York Highlanders / Detroit Tigers
1904: Cleveland Naps / Philadelphia Athletics / Pittsburgh Pirates / St. Louis Cardinals
1905: Boston Americans / Cincinnati Reds / Cleveland Naps / Detroit Tigers
1906: St. Louis Browns / Detroit Tigers / Philadelphia Athletics / Philadelphia Phillies
1907: Philadelphia Phillies / New York Giants / New York Highlanders / St. Louis Browns
1908: St. Louis Browns / Boston Red Sox / Cincinnati Reds / Philadelphia Athletics
1909: Chicago White Sox / Cincinnati Reds / New York Highlanders / Philadelphia Phillies
1910: Boston Red Sox / Philadelphia Phillies / Cincinnati Reds / Cleveland Naps
1911: Boston Red Sox / Chicago White Sox / Philadelphia Phillies / New York Highlanders
1912: Chicago White Sox / Cincinnati Reds / Cleveland Naps / Philadelphia Phillies
1913: Boston Red Sox / Chicago White Sox / Pittsburgh Pirates / Boston Braves
1914: Detroit Tigers / Chicago Cubs / Brooklyn Dodgers / Philadelphia Phillies
1915: Brooklyn Robins / Chicago Cubs / Pittsburgh Pirates / St. Louis Cardinals
1916: New York Giants / New York Yankees / St. Louis Browns / Cleveland Indians
1917: Cincinnati Reds / Detroit Tigers / Washington Senators / Chicago Cubs
1918: Pittsburgh Pirates / New York Yankees / St. Louis Browns / Chicago White Sox
1919: Chicago Cubs / Pittsburgh Pirates / Brooklyn Robins / St. Louis Browns
1920: Pittsburgh Pirates / St. Louis Browns / Chicago Cubs / St. Louis Cardinals
1921: Washington Senators / Brooklyn Robins / Boston Braves / Boston Red Sox
1922: Chicago Cubs / Chicago White Sox / Cleveland Indians / Detroit Tigers
1923: Cleveland Indians / St. Louis Cardinals / Washington Senators / Brooklyn Robins
1924: Chicago Cubs / Cincinnati Reds / St. Louis Browns / Philadelphia Athletics
1925: Cincinnati Reds / Chicago White Sox / St. Louis Cardinals / Cleveland Indians
1926: Chicago White Sox / Washington Senators / Chicago Cubs / Detroit Tigers
1927: Detroit Tigers / Chicago Cubs / Cincinnati Reds / Chicago White Sox
1928: St. Louis Browns / Cincinnati Reds / Brooklyn Robins / Washington Senators
1929: St. Louis Cardinals / St. Louis Browns / Philadelphia Phillies / Washington Senators
 
 
 
4/5/2014 12:08 AM



LEAGUE TWO:
 
1930: Pittsburgh Pirates / Cleveland Indians / New York Yankees / Detroit Tigers
1931: Brooklyn Dodgers / Cleveland Indians / Pittsburgh Pirates / Philadelphia Phillies
1932: Brooklyn Dodgers / Philadelphia Phillies / Boston Braves / Detroit Tigers
1933: St. Louis Cardinals / Philadelphia Athletics / Cleveland Indians / Detroit Tigers
1934: Boston Braves / Boston Red Sox / Brooklyn Dodgers / Pittsburgh Pirates
1935: Cleveland Indians / Boston Red Sox / Chicago White Sox / Brooklyn Dodgers
1936: Chicago White Sox / Cleveland Indians / Washington Senators / Boston Red Sox
1937: Boston Red Sox / Cleveland Indians / St. Louis Cardinals / Boston Bees
1938: Cincinnati Reds / New York Giants / Boston Bees / Washington Senators
1939: Chicago Cubs / Detroit Tigers / Brooklyn Dodgers / New York Giants
1940: Boston Red Sox / Chicago White Sox / Pittsburgh Pirates / Chicago Cubs
1941: Detroit Tigers / Cleveland Indians / Chicago White Sox / New York Giants
1942: Cincinnati Reds / Cleveland Indians / Detroit Tigers / Chicago Cubs
1943: Pittsburgh Pirates / Brooklyn Dodgers / Detroit Tigers / Chicago Cubs
1944: Boston Red Sox / Chicago Cubs / Cleveland Indians / Philadelphia Athletics
1945: New York Yankees / St. Louis Browns / New York Giants / Cleveland Indians
1946: Boston Braves / Washington Senators / Chicago White Sox / Philadelphia Phillies
1947: Cleveland Indians / New York Giants / Philadelphia Athletics / Cincinnati Reds
1948: Pittsburgh Pirates / Brooklyn Dodgers / New York Giants / Detroit Tigers
1949: Philadelphia Athletics / Philadelphia Phillies / Boston Braves / New York Giants
1950: New York Giants / Boston Braves / St. Louis Cardinals / Washington Senators
1951: St. Louis Cardinals / Boston Braves / Detroit Tigers / Philadelphia Phillies
1952: Chicago White Sox / Philadelphia Athletics / Washington Senators / Chicago Cubs
1953: St. Louis Cardinals / Philadelphia Phillies / Washington Senators / New York Giants
1954: Philadelphia Phillies / Cincinnati Reds / St. Louis Cardinals / Boston Red Sox
1955: New York Giants / Detroit Tigers / Philadelphia Phillies / Cincinnati Reds
1956: Detroit Tigers / Boston Red Sox / St. Louis Cardinals / Philadelphia Phillies
1957: Detroit Tigers / Philadelphia Phillies / Cleveland Indians / Baltimore Orioles
 
 
 
 
4/5/2014 12:09 AM



LEAGUE THREE:
 
1958: Detroit Tigers / Cleveland Indians / Cincinnati Reds / Baltimore Orioles
1959: Pittsburgh Pirates / Detroit Tigers / Boston Red Sox / Chicago Cubs
1960: Los Angeles Dodgers / San Francisco Giants / Cleveland Indians / Washington Senators
1961: Milwaukee Braves / St. Louis Cardinals / Cleveland Indians / Boston Red Sox
1962: Chicago White Sox / Detroit Tigers / St. Louis Cardinals / Philadelphia Phillies
1963: Milwaukee Braves / Cincinnati Reds / Chicago Cubs / Detroit Tigers
1964: Detroit Tigers / Los Angeles Angels / Los Angeles Dodgers / Pittsburgh Pirates
1965: Philadelphia Phillies / Milwaukee Braves / St. Louis Cardinals / New York Yankees
1966: St. Louis Cardinals / Chicago White Sox / Cleveland Indians / California Angels
1967: California Angels / Philadelphia Phillies / Pittsburgh Pirates / Atlanta Braves
1968: Oakland Athletics / Atlanta Braves / Pittsburgh Pirates / Minnesota Twins
1969: St. Louis Cardinals / Boston Red Sox / Los Angeles Dodgers / Washington Senators
1970: Chicago Cubs / New York Mets / Detroit Tigers / Houston Astros
1971: New York Mets / Atlanta Braves / New York Yankees / Cincinnati Reds
1972: Baltimore Orioles / New York Yankees / Minnesota Twins / Kansas City Royals
1973: Minnesota Twins / St. Louis Cardinals / Pittsburgh Pirates / New York Yankees
1974: Minnesota Twins / Houston Astros / Chicago White Sox / Philadelphia Phillies
1975: St. Louis Cardinals / San Francisco Giants / Texas Rangers / Cleveland Indians
1976: Boston Red Sox / Cleveland Indians / Houston Astros / Texas Rangers
1977: St. Louis Cardinals / Chicago Cubs / Houston Astros / San Francisco Giants
1978: Texas Rangers / Detroit Tigers / San Diego Padres / Chicago Cubs
1979: Philadelphia Phillies / Detroit Tigers / Texas Rangers / Minnesota Twins
1980: Oakland Athletics / Boston Red Sox / Atlanta Braves / Cleveland Indians
1981: New York Yankees / Texas Rangers / San Francisco Giants / Chicago White Sox
1982: Pittsburgh Pirates / Montreal Expos / Detroit Tigers / San Diego Padres
1983: Montreal Expos / San Diego Padres / St. Louis Cardinals / Kansas City Royals
1984: California Angels / Philadelphia Phillies / Atlanta Braves / Houston Astros
1985: Baltimore Orioles / Houston Astros / San Diego Padres / Boston Red Sox
 
 
 
 
 
4/5/2014 12:10 AM



LEAGUE FOUR:
 
1986: San Francisco Giants / St. Louis Cardinals / Montreal Expos / Milwaukee Brewers
1987: Oakland Athletics / Philadelphia Phillies / Pittsburgh Pirates / Boston Red Sox
1988: Kansas City Royals / San Diego Padres / San Francisco Giants / Houston Astros
1989: Texas Rangers / Boston Red Sox / Montreal Expos / Milwaukee Brewers
1990: California Angels / Detroit Tigers / Chicago Cubs / Philadelphia Phillies
1991: Seattle Mariners / Milwaukee Brewers / Kansas City Royals / California Angels
1992: San Diego Padres / Houston Astros / Chicago Cubs / Texas Rangers
1993: Chicago Cubs / Kansas City Royals / Seattle Mariners / Los Angeles Dodgers
1994: San Francisco Giants / Boston Red Sox / Philadelphia Phillies / St. Louis Cardinals
1995: Baltimore Orioles / Kansas City Royals / San Diego Padres / New York Mets
1996: Colorado Rockies / Houston Astros / Cincinnati Reds / Florida Marlins
1997: Chicago White Sox / Detroit Tigers / Pittsburgh Pirates / Montreal Expos
1998: St. Louis Cardinals / Chicago White Sox / Baltimore Orioles / Colorado Rockies
1999: Baltimore Orioles / Pittsburgh Pirates / Philadelphia Phillies / Los Angeles Dodgers
2000: Toronto Blue Jays / Anaheim Angels / Colorado Rockies / Florida Marlins
2001: Chicago White Sox / Boston Red Sox / New York Mets / Toronto Blue Jays
2002: Chicago White Sox / Philadelphia Phillies / Florida Marlins / Toronto Blue Jays
2003: St. Louis Cardinals / Los Angeles Dodgers / Arizona Diamondbacks / Montreal Expos
2004: Philadelphia Phillies / Florida Marlins / Chicago White Sox / Cleveland Indians
2005: San Diego Padres / Milwaukee Brewers / Washington Nationals / Toronto Blue Jays
2006: Houston Astros / Texas Rangers / Cincinnati Reds / Atlanta Braves
2007: Milwaukee Brewers / Toronto Blue Jays / Los Angeles Dodgers / Minnesota Twins
2008: Los Angeles Dodgers / Florida Marlins / Arizona Diamondbacks / Cleveland Indians
2009: Tampa Bay Rays / Seattle Mariners / Chicago Cubs / Milwaukee Brewers
2010: Colorado Rockies / Oakland Athletics / Detroit Tigers / Los Angeles Dodgers
2011: Toronto Blue Jays / Los Angeles Dodgers / Cleveland Indians / Cincinnati Reds
2012: Chicago White Sox / Milwaukee Brewers / Philadelphia Phillies / Arizona Diamondbacks
2013: Baltimore Orioles / New York Yankees / Arizona Diamondbacks / Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
 
 
 
 
 
6/19/2014 1:22 AM (edited)

Round FIVE:


Here’s what we’re doing…
 
Pretty simple: All of the modern franchises (1903 through 2013) will be listed.  In League One, we'll go all National League and in League Two, we'll go all American League.  When it's your turn to select a team, pick a franchise and then pick a 10-year span of that franchise and build your roster. Ten years may look like 1977-1986 or 1999-2008 or anything similar. It can’t look like 1940-1950 as that would be “11” years. Plus, just to make it a bit more interesting to build your rosters, let’s make sure there’s at least one pitcher and one position player from each of your ten years. That’s twenty players – the other five can come from any of the ten years you’re building with. There will be no IP and PA requirements in this round.
 
Obviously, more than one individual can choose the same franchise, but their years cannot overlap at all. If someone in League Two wants the 2004-2013 Red Sox and someone wants the 1994-2003 Red Sox, that’s fine.
 
Alignment will be in conjunction with the Draft Order. The first four selections in each league will make up the N.L. East, the next four selections will make up the N.L. Central, and so on.
 
Here are some other items of interest:
 
NO: Waiver Wire, Trades or A.A.A.
NO: Designated Hitter.
NO: Clones.
NO: Injuries – They’ll be Turned Off.
 
You may use either full or partial players seasons in this round.
 
CAP – $110M
 
Stadium – You must use a park that your franchise called home during your team’s time-span.
 
Who Moves On?
 
Once Round FIVE is complete, the eight playoff teams from the two leagues will automatically earn a spot in the Final Round – Round Six of the tournament. That’s sixteen spots spoken for. The final eight teams will come from the best of the other 32 teams across the two leagues. Again, this will give everyone something to keep playing for, even if your team isn’t very competitive in your division or for the wildcard.
 
 
 
 
 
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