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1/8/2014 2:10 PM
Maddux, Glavine and Thomas are in.

Biggio misses by one vote!

Piazza will probably get in eventually.

Morris out.

A pretty good result all in all, though it would be nice to have some clarity about Bonds and Clemens.
1/8/2014 2:21 PM
No doubt we will see a zillion media articles (and forum posts) deconstructing the results and showcasing circular arguments ad nauseum.  So before all that, let's just take a moment to acknowledge that these are 3 great players who are well worthy of their new HOF status.  Congrats to Greg, Tom, and Frank.
1/8/2014 2:23 PM
Well said.  

And I'm happy that the Morris debate is finally over.  Piazza next year, hopefully.


1/8/2014 2:25 PM
I can't find voting totals. Any idea if Raines' support fell?
1/8/2014 2:31 PM
It did. From 52.2% to 46.1%.
1/8/2014 2:36 PM
Bummer
1/8/2014 2:39 PM
The 2013 ballot featured 36 candidates, with 17 returnees and 19 newcomers.
Player (Years on ballot) Total Votes Percentage
Greg Maddux (1) 555 97.2
Tom Glavine (1) 525 91.9
Frank Thomas (1) 478 83.7
Craig Biggio (2) 427 74.8
Mike Piazza (2) 355 62.2
Jack Morris (15) 351 61.5
Jeff Bagwell (4) 310 54.3
Tim Raines (7) 263 46.1
Roger Clemens (2) 202 35.4
Barry Bonds (2) 198 34.7
Lee Smith (12) 171 29.9
Curt Schilling (2) 167 29.2
Edgar Martinez (5) 144 25.2
Alan Trammell (13) 119 20.8
Mike Mussina (1) 116 20.3
Jeff Kent (1) 87 15.2
Fred McGriff (8) 67 11.7
Mark McGwire (8) 63 11.0
Larry Walker (4) 58 10.2
Don Mattingly (14) 47 8.2
Sammy Sosa (2) 41 7.2
Rafael Palmeiro (4) 25 4.4
Moises Alou (1) 6 1.1
Hideo Nomo (1) 6 1.1
Luis Gonzalez (1) 5 0.9
Eric Gagne (1) 2 0.4
J.T. Snow (1) 2 0.4
Armando Benitez (1) 1 0.2
Jacque Jones (1) 1 0.2
Kenny Rogers (1) 1 0.2
Sean Casey (1) 0 0.0
Ray Durham (1) 0 0.0
Todd Jones (1) 0 0.0
Paul Lo Duca (1) 0 0.0
Richie Sexson (1) 0 0.0
Mike Timlin (1) 0 0.0
1/8/2014 2:42 PM
No more Palmeiro huh?
1/8/2014 2:48 PM
Who the **** voted for Benitez?
1/8/2014 2:49 PM
Somebody voted for Jacque Jones?
1/8/2014 2:49 PM
And what idiots didn't vote for Maddux?
1/8/2014 2:55 PM
Again, as I've stated before on suggestions of improving the HOF voting process, adopt the same methods as the NFL, and have a selection committee present a group of finalists to vote on and eliminate guys like Jacque Jones and Armando Benitez from the ballot entirely.
1/8/2014 2:57 PM
But JT Snow and his 1 vote stays.  Obviously.
1/8/2014 2:59 PM
Also, pare down the voters.  The first guys to weed out would be the 16 who didn't vote for Maddux, and the next would be whoever voted for Jacques Jones.  I can't even believe he made it to the ballot.
1/8/2014 3:00 PM
He got 2 votes (Snow).

Seriously, I love it - let's overhaul the entire system to deal with something completely inconsequential!
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