Posted by cjones4mvp on 1/20/2014 12:38:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MyGeneration on 1/19/2014 10:59:00 PM (view original):I follow it and you're right.. SDSU has a top 15 class coming in this year. If pope can get/stay healthy he's gonna be a stud imo. I figured he'd end up at UCLA. Zabo was their only non-4 star. I know WVU (im from wv but a marshall fan) was after him at one point.
I could be wrong, but it sounds like you are just speculating without really following real life college basketball programs and their recruiting, because the real life facts run contrary to basically all your stated assumptions. Pope chose SDSU over Kansas. Kell, local kid, chose SDSU over several Big 6 programs. Cheatham -- big fish. All were 4-5-star recruits. UNLV also has recruiting success in real life that eclipses most Big 6 programs. It's ptetty interesting. I'll edit later and add more details. Cheers,
Thanks cjones. The 2014 class also has 5-star transfer (from AZ), Angelo Chol. All five members of the 2014 class received multiple offers from Big 6 programs. To get an idea: 3-star Zabo - W. VA, Illinois, & was atop Fred Hoiberg' s wish list at ISU; 4-star Kell - AZ, UCLA, Vanderbilt, OR; 4-star Cheatham - Memphis, New Mexico, WA, ASU; 5-star Pope: Kansas, AZ, UCLA, OR; and Chol was a 5-star coming out of high school, with offers from UNC, Alabama, & AZ.
The 2014 class is not an anomaly. Every CBB fan has seen 5-star sophomore Winston Shepard. He chose SDSU over OK State, OR, St. John's & UNLV. 4-star freshman Dakarai Allen: Colorado, Oregon State, Cal.
We get the point. The Aztecs do not lose recruiting battles with Big 6 programs 99% of the time.
"If they had a bad year, their real life prestige would plummet." No, because when a school builds a program, as opposed to having one good year of success recruiting or on the court, seasonal dips are unlikely and consecutive bad years become next to impossible barring sanctions. These programs have made the jump to the next level. HD does not recognize such leaps.
SDSU sold out its season (12,414 per game) last season and this season and has led the entire west coast in attendance for a long time, I want to say certainly 5 years, pretty sure more than 10 years. That kind of support does not disappear after one season.
If SDSU is head-to-head against any PAC 10 school other than AZ for a recruit, all things being equal, SDSU has a leg up. The fact that AZ is the only PAC 10 school to beat the Aztecs in ages probably has something to do with it. Check out how many years it has been since SDSU lost to any California school (yes, they play them all). The facts do not support the contention that schools like SDSU are at a recruiting disadvantage to mid-level BCS schools. It is simply false.
CBB followers know that SDSU is on its way to its 9th straight 20-win season and its fifth-straight NCAA Tournament. There are interesting lead stories on SDSU out today by Pat Forde of Yahoo Sports and Pete Thamel of SI.
Baseline prestige in HD is not realistic. SDSU is just one example. An easy fix would be to adjust baseline prestige after a period of sustained excellence.