3/1/2014 9:58 PM
Not sure, but 690 ft's on 1571 shots seems pretty high to me, and remember the name of the team I'm playing against.
3/1/2014 10:46 PM
It's pretty high, but not that high.  14.4% of his possessions ended with him on the stripe.  Same as Wade.  For comparison's sake  89-90 Mailman is at 17.2%.  66-67 Wilt is 20.2%. 87-88 Barkley is 20.8%.  07-08 Dwight Howard is 24.2%.  Remember 96-97 Karl Malone is not Karl Malone - he's a block of statistical data.

Also, you're a very midrange team.  You don't have much extremes for paint or perimeter.  Fouls are the whackiest part of the sim: the hardest to control, the hardest to exploit yet is often the most overlooked part of building a squad (evidence: drafting 2300 fouls - seriously wtf).

Nonetheless, I still agree; it's absurd. 
3/2/2014 10:57 AM
Nolo Contendere

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
68-69 Jerry Lucas* 37 11/18 0/0 0/0 2 6 7 0 2 2 2 22
88-89 Robert Parish* 36 7/12 0/0 2/2 4 9 1 2 1 3 3 16
96-97 Kevin Johnson* 34 5/10 1/3 0/0 0 4 15 0 2 8 0 11
90-91 Charles Barkley* 32 4/11 0/1 3/4 2 5 8 0 4 3 2 11
05-06 Mike Miller* 30 7/13 4/7 2/2 1 6 7 0 1 4 3 20
76-77 Bob McAdoo 24 11/14 1/2 1/1 1 2 3 1 1 0 4 24
11-12 James Harden 24 5/11 3/7 1/1 0 2 4 0 1 5 6 14
08-09 Jameer Nelson 10 1/3 0/0 0/0 0 0 4 0 0 1 1 2
11-12 J.J. Hickson 7 2/5 0/0 0/2 2 2 1 0 0 1 2 4
94-95 Michael Adams 5 1/1 1/1 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3
TOTALS   54/98 10/21 9/12 12 36 50 3 12 27 23 127
  55.1% 47.6% 75.0%  
D-Minus

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
89-90 Charles Barkley* 37 12/18 0/0 2/3 0 4 6 0 3 6 3 26
08-09 Ray Allen* 37 8/13 1/3 7/8 2 3 5 1 3 5 4 24
74-75 Swen Nater 33 9/12 0/0 3/4 3 9 1 1 1 5 3 21
06-07 Steve Nash* 33 5/9 1/2 1/2 0 3 12 0 1 5 0 12
06-07 Carlos Boozer* 33 5/8 0/0 0/0 2 10 7 0 4 3 1 10
10-11 Kevin Love* 30 10/14 0/0 7/8 1 9 6 0 2 1 0 27
12-13 Jose Calderon 15 0/3 0/1 0/0 1 2 3 0 0 3 0 0
11-12 Manu Ginobili 12 2/3 1/2 0/0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 5
00-01 Toni Kukoc 9 5/6 3/3 3/6 0 2 3 0 0 0 2 16
05-06 Reggie Evans 2 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0
TOTALS   56/86 6/11 23/31 9 43 44 2 14 29 14 141
  65.1% 54.5% 74.2%  
3/2/2014 11:01 AM
why do the two teams above combine for 56 turnovers? neither team is pressing, only a couple of the participants (Nashie I'm looking at you) are particularly turnover prone, there certainly isn't a ton of stl% on either squad (this is the no D theme league) and there's plenty of usage to go around so both squads should be avoiding those penalties -so why? a:because

and don't get me started on the FTA disparity
3/2/2014 11:13 AM
Game 2.  Yeah.

2322 fouls

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
94-95 Scottie Pippen* 38 10/16 0/1 11/14 0 6 4 3 2 1 2 31
08-09 Dwyane Wade* 37 8/19 1/1 11/15 2 7 7 0 2 5 2 28
93-94 Shawn Kemp* 33 6/13 0/0 4/5 4 11 2 5 2 3 0 16
95-96 Elden Campbell 29 7/11 0/0 0/0 0 6 3 2 2 2 1 14
79-80 Tree Rollins* 28 3/4 0/0 1/1 1 7 2 4 0 1 3 7
12-13 Larry Sanders* 26 3/6 0/0 2/3 0 3 1 3 1 0 3 8
06-07 Paul Millsap 16 3/5 0/0 0/1 2 6 1 4 0 0 2 6
71-72 Art Williams 15 0/2 0/1 0/0 0 0 4 1 0 3 3 0
06-07 Tyrus Thomas 11 1/1 0/0 4/4 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 6
87-88 Carey Scurry 6 1/2 0/0 0/0 1 2 1 0 1 0 0 2
TOTALS   42/79 1/3 33/43 10 49 25 23 10 15 17 118
  53.2% 33.3% 76.7%  
The Not-So-Top 10

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
96-97 Karl Malone* 40 8/16 0/0 10/15 2 8 3 0 1 5 3 26
81-82 Sidney Moncrief* 39 6/16 0/0 4/4 8 15 7 1 0 2 4 16
95-96 Anfernee Hardaway* 37 10/25 3/6 0/1 1 2 5 0 3 2 5 23
03-04 Donyell Marshall* 34 9/19 3/6 0/0 2 7 2 6 1 4 3 21
08-09 Troy Murphy* 31 1/5 0/3 0/0 3 8 1 0 1 1 4 2
87-88 Roy Tarpley 24 6/10 0/0 1/1 5 11 3 1 0 1 4 13
90-91 Jim Les 16 2/4 1/2 0/0 0 0 2 0 1 3 1 5
10-11 Ryan Anderson 14 0/2 0/1 0/0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0
99-00 Earl Boykins 4 2/2 2/2 0/0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 6
TOTALS   44/99 9/20 15/21 21 51 25 9 7 18 25 112
  44.4% 45.0% 71.4%  


3/2/2014 11:19 AM
Posted by ashamael on 3/1/2014 10:46:00 PM (view original):
It's pretty high, but not that high.  14.4% of his possessions ended with him on the stripe.  Same as Wade.  For comparison's sake  89-90 Mailman is at 17.2%.  66-67 Wilt is 20.2%. 87-88 Barkley is 20.8%.  07-08 Dwight Howard is 24.2%.  Remember 96-97 Karl Malone is not Karl Malone - he's a block of statistical data.

Also, you're a very midrange team.  You don't have much extremes for paint or perimeter.  Fouls are the whackiest part of the sim: the hardest to control, the hardest to exploit yet is often the most overlooked part of building a squad (evidence: drafting 2300 fouls - seriously wtf).

Nonetheless, I still agree; it's absurd. 
Not sure what you mean about extremes Ash?  I drafted about 1500 3's, to go along with Karl and Moncreif who shoot almost none.  Murphy, Donyell and Anderson give me a ton of outside shots.  On the flip side, he drafted only about 700 3's.

It's not about losing or even if this team is great or not.  It's about a road team full of hackers winning the FT battle that shouldn't even be close.

3/2/2014 11:50 AM
hmm maybe the sim is making up for the fact that i am 4th in conference but didnt get a home series.
3/2/2014 12:25 PM
badja, this is what ash is talking about:

ur top 3 scorers
                          per%  mid%   pnt%
Malone             1         50        49
Hardaway        23       33        44
Moncrief           1         43        55
3/2/2014 4:21 PM
Posted by ncmusician_7 on 3/2/2014 12:25:00 PM (view original):
badja, this is what ash is talking about:

ur top 3 scorers
                          per%  mid%   pnt%
Malone             1         50        49
Hardaway        23       33        44
Moncrief           1         43        55
Exactly.
3/2/2014 4:34 PM (edited)
lol

Ashland Mustangs

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
12-13 Kevin Durant* 39 6/12 2/4 2/2 1 5 7 0 2 6 1 16
11-12 Chris Paul* 34 6/14 1/3 0/0 1 2 8 0 5 4 2 13
92-93 Dennis Rodman* 31 2/6 0/1 0/0 4 10 1 4 0 5 4 4
01-02 Shaquille O'Neal* 30 11/22 0/0 1/3 4 8 2 3 0 4 0 23
94-95 Dennis Rodman* 18 3/5 0/1 0/0 3 8 1 0 1 1 0 6
2014  Jessie Johnson 17 2/7 0/2 0/0 0 2 1 0 1 1 3 4
98-99 Dennis Rodman 15 1/4 0/1 0/0 4 6 0 0 0 1 0 2
03-04 Charlie Ward 14 0/4 0/2 0/0 0 1 1 0 1 1 2 0
06-07 Shaquille O'Neal 14 4/6 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 4 2 8
2014  Jonathan McCarl 11 0/2 0/0 0/0 1 2 0 0 2 0 3 0
2014  Thomas Auten 9 0/0 0/0 0/0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0
00-01 Toni Kukoc 9 1/5 1/3 0/0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 3
TOTALS   36/87 4/17 3/5 19 45 23 7 12 28 17 79
  41.4% 23.5% 60.0%  
Dime for your thoughts Volume ll

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
09-10 LeBron James* 37 12/18 0/0 3/5 0 6 5 0 4 3 1 27
89-90 John Stockton* 37 5/10 0/0 3/4 0 0 6 0 6 3 1 13
94-95 John Stockton* 35 5/7 0/0 0/0 1 2 9 0 2 1 1 10
83-84 Magic Johnson* 32 10/14 0/0 0/0 0 3 7 0 1 6 3 20
80-81 Sam Lacey 28 4/7 0/0 1/2 2 11 2 0 1 4 2 9
11-12 Manu Ginobili 16 2/3 2/2 2/2 0 4 1 0 1 2 0 8
74-75 Tom Boerwinkle* 14 1/3 0/1 2/2 0 2 1 1 1 1 0 4
2014  Garrett McCue 10 0/3 0/1 0/0 1 4 2 0 0 2 0 0
2014  Harry Steen 10 0/1 0/0 0/0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
2014  Frank Robertson 10 1/2 0/1 2/4 2 3 1 0 0 0 1 4
93-94 Rex Walters 6 2/2 0/0 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5
90-91 Corey Gaines 6 0/1 0/1 0/0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0
TOTALS   42/71 2/6 14/20 6 38 34 1 17 22 9 100
  59.2% 33.3% 70.0%  


shaq1 drawrate:  18.4%
shaq2 drawrate:  18.4%
Durant drawrate:  16.2%

I say again:  lol

3/2/2014 4:42 PM
just out of curiosity, y did u run slow down that game?
3/2/2014 4:56 PM
I was trying to counter his ridiculous fg% and make the possession battle go more strongly in my favor.  I still managed to turn the ball over 28 times running slowdown, though, so it didn't work.  At all.  I did hold him under 60% though!!

3/2/2014 7:31 PM (edited)
Posted by steelers821 on 3/2/2014 11:50:00 AM (view original):
hmm maybe the sim is making up for the fact that i am 4th in conference but didnt get a home series.
ummm you didn't get the home series because we had the same record, but I beat you 2/3 times during the reg season.  We had the same div record, but I had a better conf record.  Not sure why your team is listed as 4th.  and I'm not trying to put down your team, I like the defensive concept and you did a great job with them.  Kudos if you win.  I'm just shocked at the foul weirdness.
3/2/2014 7:23 PM
Posted by ashamael on 3/2/2014 4:34:00 PM (view original):
lol

Ashland Mustangs

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
12-13 Kevin Durant* 39 6/12 2/4 2/2 1 5 7 0 2 6 1 16
11-12 Chris Paul* 34 6/14 1/3 0/0 1 2 8 0 5 4 2 13
92-93 Dennis Rodman* 31 2/6 0/1 0/0 4 10 1 4 0 5 4 4
01-02 Shaquille O'Neal* 30 11/22 0/0 1/3 4 8 2 3 0 4 0 23
94-95 Dennis Rodman* 18 3/5 0/1 0/0 3 8 1 0 1 1 0 6
2014  Jessie Johnson 17 2/7 0/2 0/0 0 2 1 0 1 1 3 4
98-99 Dennis Rodman 15 1/4 0/1 0/0 4 6 0 0 0 1 0 2
03-04 Charlie Ward 14 0/4 0/2 0/0 0 1 1 0 1 1 2 0
06-07 Shaquille O'Neal 14 4/6 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 4 2 8
2014  Jonathan McCarl 11 0/2 0/0 0/0 1 2 0 0 2 0 3 0
2014  Thomas Auten 9 0/0 0/0 0/0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0
00-01 Toni Kukoc 9 1/5 1/3 0/0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 3
TOTALS   36/87 4/17 3/5 19 45 23 7 12 28 17 79
  41.4% 23.5% 60.0%  
Dime for your thoughts Volume ll

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
09-10 LeBron James* 37 12/18 0/0 3/5 0 6 5 0 4 3 1 27
89-90 John Stockton* 37 5/10 0/0 3/4 0 0 6 0 6 3 1 13
94-95 John Stockton* 35 5/7 0/0 0/0 1 2 9 0 2 1 1 10
83-84 Magic Johnson* 32 10/14 0/0 0/0 0 3 7 0 1 6 3 20
80-81 Sam Lacey 28 4/7 0/0 1/2 2 11 2 0 1 4 2 9
11-12 Manu Ginobili 16 2/3 2/2 2/2 0 4 1 0 1 2 0 8
74-75 Tom Boerwinkle* 14 1/3 0/1 2/2 0 2 1 1 1 1 0 4
2014  Garrett McCue 10 0/3 0/1 0/0 1 4 2 0 0 2 0 0
2014  Harry Steen 10 0/1 0/0 0/0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
2014  Frank Robertson 10 1/2 0/1 2/4 2 3 1 0 0 0 1 4
93-94 Rex Walters 6 2/2 0/0 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5
90-91 Corey Gaines 6 0/1 0/1 0/0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0
TOTALS   42/71 2/6 14/20 6 38 34 1 17 22 9 100
  59.2% 33.3% 70.0%  


shaq1 drawrate:  18.4%
shaq2 drawrate:  18.4%
Durant drawrate:  16.2%

I say again:  lol

To which NC says, "What's the problem with that?"
3/2/2014 7:25 PM
Posted by ncmusician_7 on 3/2/2014 12:25:00 PM (view original):
badja, this is what ash is talking about:

ur top 3 scorers
                          per%  mid%   pnt%
Malone             1         50        49
Hardaway        23       33        44
Moncrief           1         43        55
1500 3's is 1500 3's.   What does that have to do with my guys fouling the opp a ridiculous amount while the opp fouls much less than they should in 2 straight games?
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