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3/7/2014 2:42 PM
Posted by eleibowitz on 3/7/2014 1:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by natenoy on 3/7/2014 1:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by eleibowitz on 3/7/2014 10:57:00 AM (view original):
Posted by natenoy on 3/7/2014 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Closer to 1 if it's in the top-3; otherwise I'll go closer to 24.
Oh come on you cant to that, can you?
Why not? I'll know what slot selection I get as soon as the lottery is completed. I would rather be #24 than 4 or 5, and I won't know what my options are until we do the lottery.
Once you've in the lottery your in. You can't opt out afterwards. What is the use of a lottery then
eli the lottery is to decide were you get to choose your pick not were you draft
3/7/2014 2:43 PM
Posted by eleibowitz on 3/7/2014 1:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by natenoy on 3/7/2014 1:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by eleibowitz on 3/7/2014 10:57:00 AM (view original):
Posted by natenoy on 3/7/2014 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Closer to 1 if it's in the top-3; otherwise I'll go closer to 24.
Oh come on you cant to that, can you?
Why not? I'll know what slot selection I get as soon as the lottery is completed. I would rather be #24 than 4 or 5, and I won't know what my options are until we do the lottery.
Once you've in the lottery your in. You can't opt out afterwards. What is the use of a lottery then
Actually, you're wrong here eleibowitz.  The lottery determines the order for people to choose their draft slots.  I've copied them below for convenience.  Notice the red text.  This part comes AFTER the lottery has been determined.  Posting your preference as to slot is only to help dh get things set up quicker.

Draft Order

The returning owners that did not make the playoffs will be in a NBA-style draft lottery. The other returning owners will then be placed behind them in order of playoff finish(with regular season record the tiebreaker). New owners will be placed behind them in order of who joined first.

Owners will now have the option to choose their draft slot.
This will be done in draft order. So if the owner with the top pick chooses to draft in the 24th spot, the 2nd overall pick can choose any draft spot besides #24. This will continue until all the spots are filled.


3/7/2014 2:44 PM
Eleibo, I'm not understanding your point. It is my understanding that the lottery determines the top-3 slot selection choices, NOT the top-3 picks per se. In theory the team that wins the lottery should have to make a slot selection, then the 2nd guy, 3rd, etc down to the 24th person in priority. Along the way the choice between closer to 1 and closer to 24 is made by each owner based on his options. 

Of course waiting for everyone to decide in order of priority would take WAY too much time, so we all just note our preference as we confirm that we are returning. 

My concern is this: the lottery is conducted and let's say the team with the #2 decision has yet to post his preference. He's NOT locked into the #2 simply because he was in the lottery, he can still go closer to 24. So, if he posts nothing between now and the lottery then he gets to see where his priority is prior to making a decision. In essence if I post my priority prior to knowing the outcome of the lottery then I am at an unfair disadvantage when compared to the guy who simply waited for the results to be drawn. If that's the case then I'll retract my posted preference and wait until the lottery is completed before I post it (of course it will be EXACTLY the same as I have already posted). 
3/7/2014 2:47 PM
Looks like steelers and sly posted as I was typing the above, hope this clarifies things.
3/7/2014 2:50 PM
With icc going closer to 24 now there is a very high probability that I'll end up closer to 1, (unless three people jump me in the lottery and all opt closer to 1).
3/7/2014 3:00 PM
just waiting on badja and tricky...everyone is back so far besides seapilots
3/7/2014 3:00 PM
Posted by natenoy on 3/7/2014 2:44:00 PM (view original):
Eleibo, I'm not understanding your point. It is my understanding that the lottery determines the top-3 slot selection choices, NOT the top-3 picks per se. In theory the team that wins the lottery should have to make a slot selection, then the 2nd guy, 3rd, etc down to the 24th person in priority. Along the way the choice between closer to 1 and closer to 24 is made by each owner based on his options. 

Of course waiting for everyone to decide in order of priority would take WAY too much time, so we all just note our preference as we confirm that we are returning. 

My concern is this: the lottery is conducted and let's say the team with the #2 decision has yet to post his preference. He's NOT locked into the #2 simply because he was in the lottery, he can still go closer to 24. So, if he posts nothing between now and the lottery then he gets to see where his priority is prior to making a decision. In essence if I post my priority prior to knowing the outcome of the lottery then I am at an unfair disadvantage when compared to the guy who simply waited for the results to be drawn. If that's the case then I'll retract my posted preference and wait until the lottery is completed before I post it (of course it will be EXACTLY the same as I have already posted). 
Ok sly posted the rules.. im good
3/7/2014 3:11 PM
eleibo, I see your point the way you were interpreting things.
3/7/2014 3:46 PM
I'll take closer to 24
3/8/2014 9:24 AM
Back in
3/9/2014 11:50 AM
You can run the lottery without me.  I'd like to have an idea of where I am drafting before jumping back in.
3/10/2014 12:11 PM
Actually I'm out.  Working 6 days a week doesn't make for a very good draft.  Maybe next round.
3/10/2014 12:44 PM
i hear ya badja...youre welcome back anytime

smokey will replace him...ill run the lottery later today

3/10/2014 5:45 PM
Lottery

Ok....here's how I'm doing the lottery. As I said, it will be done almost just like the NBA.

Here's how the NBA has its odds(per wiki)....

  1. 250 combinations, 25.0% chance of receiving the #1 pick
  2. 199 combinations, 19.9% chance
  3. 156 combinations, 15.6% chance
  4. 119 combinations, 11.9% chance
  5. 88 combinations, 8.8% chance
  6. 63 combinations, 6.3% chance
  7. 43 combinations, 4.3% chance
  8. 28 combinations, 2.8% chance
  9. 17 combinations, 1.7% chance
  10. 11 combinations, 1.1% chance
  11. 8 combinations, 0.8% chance
  12. 7 combinations, 0.7% chance
  13. 6 combinations, 0.6% chance
  14. 5 combinations, 0.5% chance

So what I'm going to do is make #13/14 vacant and assign the 12 lottery teams the other spots based on record. The owners that dropped will also leave those numbers vacant. This year it looks like this......

iccoachb  - (1 - 250)
natenoy - (251 - 449)
banditone - (450 - 605)
98average - (606 - 724)
seapilots - out - (725 - 812)
tricky24 - (813 - 875)
slymonium - (876 - 918)
thomcat - (919 - 946)
eleibowitz - (947 - 963)
mikee1 - (964 - 974)
longtallbrad - (975 - 982)
scudmissle - (983 - 989)
vacant - (990 - 1000)


I'm going to use Random.Org to select a number from 1-1000. I'll keep generating a new number until it is one that isn't vacant. Just like the NBA, this is only being done for the first 3 picks. After those 3,  the order for the other lottery teams will go by record.



I hope you guys will just trust me here but if enough people have a problem with Random.Org then I can always switch it to the lottery next season. Ok here goes.....


1st number selected - 254 - natenoy
2nd - 640 - 98average
3rd - 551 - banditone
3/11/2014 12:31 AM
Okay natenoy you got Wilt so now what id the strategy? I think that you should go for a team that blocks over 20 shots per game. I have a great defensive unit that is averaging over 18 blocks per game and is doing quite well in the 987 league. Or how about a combo between 25 total blocks and steals per game? Or just trade all of your picks for all of my picks in a nice fair and square trade???
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