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3/13/2014 10:28 AM
This Thread will be the DRAFT for the 2010 Season.

Rules for determining draft order:

The draft order is determined by first generating the order for the first round. That order is based generally on each team's regular season record, with the exception of the two Super Bowl contestants, who are placed at the end of the draft order. Tiebreakers and specifics are as follows:

1. The winners of the Super Bowl are given the last selection, and the losers the second to last selection.

2. Teams that made the playoffs are then ordered by how they performed in the playoffs. The conference championship losers receive the third and fourth to last selections. Next are the four teams who lost in the divisional round, followed by the four teams who lost in the wild card round. Each team is ordered within this primary order by their regular-season record.

3. Teams that did not make the playoffs are ordered by their regular-season record.

4. Remaining ties are broken by strength of schedule. For draft order, a lower strength of schedule results in an earlier pick. If strength of schedule does not resolve a tie, division and/or conference tiebreakers may be used. If the tie still cannot be broken, a coin toss is used to determine draft order. (Note: Strength of schedule is the combined records of a team's 16 opponents, including games played against the team in question, and counting divisional opponents twice. Because of this, each team's opponents' combined wins and losses—counting a tie as a half-win, half-loss—will add up to 256, so a team whose opponents had more combined wins has a better strength of schedule.)
3/22/2014 10:41 PM (edited)
Final Draft Order:

# Team Record Opp. Record
1 Washington Redskins (coolmay_one)  4-12-0  124-132-0
2 Miami Dolphins (shawbigred)  4-12-0  130-126-0
3 Cincinnati Bengals (doubleot)  4-12-0  131-125-0
4 Green Bay Packers (Wpg_Goldeyes)   4-12-0  144-112-0
5 Dallas Cowboys (democolson)  5-11-0  125-131-0
6 Oakland Raiders (dskantor)  5-11-0  130-126-0
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman)  5-11-0  130-126-0
8 Tennessee Titans (pg99)  6-10-0  130-126-0
9 Buffalo Bills (glen87)           6-10-0  136-120-0
10 Baltimore Ravens (scrimy)     7-9-0  125-131-0
11 Seattle Seahawks (bigpete)  7-9-0  132-124-0
12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (sjstapleton)  8-8-0  
13 New York Giants (SteveBobLDN)    7-9-0  
14 San Francisco 49ers (Poddy)  9-7-0  
15 San Diego Chargers (tonyvoss)  10-6-0  
16 New England Patriots (etapar)  11-5-0  
17 Kansas City Chiefs (stpmotom)   9-7-0  124-132-0
18 St. Louis Rams (cosmicjim70)  9-7-0  132-124-0
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)   10-6-0  
20 Pittsburgh Steelers (bomain)  11-5-0  
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)   12-4-0  
22 Chicago Bears (riverratk)  14-2-0  
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon)  10-6-0  
24 Detroit Lions (gwhouse)   15-1-0  

4/29/2014 2:57 PM (edited)
1st Round:

# Team Time Player
1 Washington Redskins (coolmay_one)    Sam Bradford (QB) - Oklahoma
2 Miami Dolphins (shawbigred)    Jimmy Graham (TE) - Miami (FL)
3 Cincinnati Bengals (doubleot)    Rob Gronkowski (TE) - Arizona
4 Dallas Cowboys (democolson) from Green Bay Packers     Dez Bryant (WR) - Oklahoma State
5 Green Bay Packers (Wpg_Goldeyes) from Dallas Cowboys    Demaryius Thomas (WR) - Georgia Tech
6 Oakland Raiders (dskantor)    Kansas City Chiefs (OL) - NFL Cut
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman)    Colt McCoy (QB) - Texas
8 Tennessee Titans (pg99)    Stevie Johnson (WR) - Kentucky
9 Buffalo Bills (glen87)             Eric Decker (WR) - Minnesota
10 Baltimore Ravens (scrimy)       Jermaine Gresham (TE) - Oklahoma
11 Seattle Seahawks (bigpete)    Ryan Mathews (RB) - Fresno State
12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (sjstapleton)    C.J. Spiller (RB) - Clemson
13 New York Giants (SteveBobLDN)      LeGarrette Blount (RB) - Oregon
14 San Francisco 49ers (Poddy)    Antonio Brown (WR) - Central Michigan
15 San Diego Chargers (tonyvoss)    Mike Williams (WR) - Syracuse
16 New England Patriots (etapar)    Christopher Ivory (RB) - Washington State
17 Kansas City Chiefs (stpmotom)     Arizona Cardinals (D) - NFL Cut
18 St. Louis Rams (cosmicjim70)    David Nelson (WR) - Florida
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)     Isaac Redman (RB) - Bowie State
20 Pittsburgh Steelers (bomain)    Aaron Hernandez (TE) - Florida
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)     Detroit Lions (OL) - NFL Cut
22 Green Bay Packers (Wpg_Goldeyes)  from Chicago Bears     Dennis Pitta (TE) - BYU
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon)    Emmanuel Sanders (WR) - SMU
24 Detroit Lions (gwhouse)     Detroit Lions (ST) - NFL Cut

4/29/2014 2:57 PM (edited)
2nd Round:

# Team Time Player
1 Washington Redskins (coolmay_one)   Toby Gerhart (RB) - Stanford 
2 Miami Dolphins (shawbigred)   Cleveland Browns (D) - NFL Cut
3 Cincinnati Bengals (doubleot)   Golden Tate (WR) - Notre Dame
4 Green Bay Packers (Wpg_Goldeyes)    Andre Roberts (WR) - Citadel
5 Green Bay Packers (Wpg_Goldeyes) from Dallas   Ryan Torain (RB) - Arizona State
6 Oakland Raiders (dskantor)   Keiland Williams (RB) - LSU
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman)   John Skelton (QB) - Fordham
8 Tennessee Titans (pg99)   John Kuhn (RB) - Shippensburg
9 Buffalo Bills (glen87)            Brandon LaFell (WR) - LSU
10 Baltimore Ravens (scrimy)      Riley Cooper (WR) - Florida
11 Seattle Seahawks (bigpete)   Jordan Shipley (WR) - Texas
12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (sjstapleton)   Kansas City Chiefs (D) - NFL Cut
13 New York Giants (SteveBobLDN)     Tim Tebow (QB) - Florida
14 San Francisco 49ers (Poddy)   Scott Chandler (TE) - Iowa
15 San Diego Chargers (tonyvoss)   Oakland Raiders (OL) - NFL Cut
16 New England Patriots (etapar)  Mon 10:00am-11:00am EST Marcel Reece (RB) - Washington
17 Kansas City Chiefs (stpmotom)   Mon 11:00am-Noon EST Minnesota Vikings (OL) - NFL Cut
18 St. Louis Rams (cosmicjim70)  Mon Noon-1:00pm EST Chester Taylor (RB) - NFL Cut - HSP
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)   Mon 1:00pm-2:00pm EST Houston Texans (ST) - NFL Cut
20 Pittsburgh Steelers (bomain)  Mon 2:00pm-3:00pm EST Tony Moeaki (TE) - Iowa
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)   Mon 3:00pm-4:00pm EST Garrett Graham (TE) - Wisconsin
22 Miami Dolphins (shawbigred) from Green Bay/Chicago   Mon 4:00pm-5:00pm EST Ed Dickson (TE) - Oregon
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon)  Mon 5:00pm-6:00pm EST Correll Buckhalter (RB) - NFL Cut
24 Detroit Lions (gwhouse)   Mon 6:00pm-7:00pm EST Dexter McCluster (WR) - Mississippi

5/1/2014 10:18 AM (edited)
3rd Round:

# Team Time Player
1 Washington Redskins (coolmay_one) Mon 7:00pm-8:00pm EST Danario Alexander (WR) - Missouri
2 Miami Dolphins (shawbigred) Mon 8:00pm-9:00pm EST Jimmy Clausen (QB) - Notre Dame
3 Cincinnati Bengals (doubleot) Mon 9:00pm-10:00pm EST Lance Ball (RB) - Maryland
4 Green Bay Packers (Wpg_Goldeyes)  Mon 10:00pm-11:00pm EST Javid Best (RB) - California
5 Dallas Cowboys (democolson) Tue 9:00am-10:00am EST Blair White (WR) - Michigan State
6 Oakland Raiders (dskantor) Tue 10:00am-11:00am EST Anthony Armstrong (WR) - West Texas A&M
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman) Tue 11:00am-Noon EST Javon Ringer (RB) - Michigan State
8 Tennessee Titans (pg99) Tue Noon-1:00pm EST Jacoby Ford (WR) - Clemson
9 Buffalo Bills (glen87)          Tue 1:00pm-2:00pm EST Andrew Quarless (TE) - Penn State
10 Baltimore Ravens (scrimy)    Tue 2:00pm-3:00pm EST Britton Colquitt (P) - Tennessee - HSP
11 Seattle Seahawks (bigpete) Tue 3:00pm-4:00pm EST Michael Hoomanawanui (TE) - Illinois
12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (sjstapleton) - LAST PICK Tue 4:00pm-5:00pm EST Tiquan Underwood (WR) - Rutgers
13 New York Giants (SteveBobLDN)   Tue 5:00pm-6:00pm EST Damian Williams (WR) - USC
14 San Francisco 49ers (Poddy) Tue 6:00pm-7:00pm EST Preston Parker (WR) - Florida State
15 San Diego Chargers (tonyvoss) Tue 7:00pm-8:00pm EST Anthony Dixon (RB) - Mississippi State
16 New England Patriots (etapar) Tue 8:00pm-9:00pm EST Le'Ron McClain (RB) - NFL Cut
17 Kansas City Chiefs (stpmotom)  Tue 9:00pm-10:00pm EST Joe McKnight (RB) - USC - HSP
18 St. Louis Rams (cosmicjim70) Tue 10:00pm-11:00pm EST Mike Sellers (RB) - NFL Cut - HSP
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)  Wed 9:00am-10:00am EST Jacksonville Jaguars (OL) - NFL Cut
20 Pittsburgh Steelers (bomain) Wed 10:00am-11:00am EST David Gettis (WR) - Baylor
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)  Wed 11:00am-Noon EST Ted Ginn, Jr. (WR) - NFL Cut
22 Chicago Bears (riverratk) Wed Noon-1:00pm EST Kenneth Darby (RB) - NFL Cut - HSP
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon) Wed 1:00pm-2:00pm EST Brandon Tate (WR) - North Carolina
24 Detroit Lions (gwhouse)  Wed 2:00pm-3:00pm EST Donald Jones (WR) - Youngstown State

 

5/4/2014 9:09 AM (edited)
4th Round:

# Team Time Player
1 Washington Redskins (coolmay_one) Wed 3:00pm-4:00pm EST Arrelious Benn (WR) - Illinois
2 Green Bay Packers (Wpg_Goldeyes) from Miami - LAST PICK Wed 4:00pm-5:00pm EST Kevin Huber (P) - Cincinnati
3 Cincinnati Bengals (doubleot) Wed 5:00pm-6:00pm EST Joe Webb (QB) - Alabama-Birmingham
4 Chicago Bears (riverratk) from Green Bay Packers Wed 6:00pm-7:00pm EST Javarris James (RB) - Miami (FL) - HSP
5 Dallas Cowboys (democolson) Wed 7:00pm-8:00pm EST Deji Karim (RB) - Southern Illinois
6 Oakland Raiders (dskantor) - LAST PICK Wed 8:00pm-9:00pm EST Micheal Robinson (RB) - NFL Cut
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman) Wed 9:00pm-10:00pm EST Matt Dodge (P) - East Carolina - HSP
8 Tennessee Titans (pg99) Wed 10:00pm-11:00pm EST Tim Masthay (P) - Kentucky - HSP
9 Buffalo Bills (glen87)  - LAST PICK         Thu 9:00am-10:00am EST Logan Paulsen (TE) - UCLA
10 Baltimore Ravens (scrimy) - LAST PICK  Thu 10:00am-11:00am EST Mike Bell (RB) - NFL Cut - HSP
11 Seattle Seahawks (bigpete) Thu 11:00am-Noon EST Lousaka Polite (RB) - NFL Cut
12     TBD
13 New York Giants (SteveBobLDN) - LAST PICK  Thu Noon-1:00pm EST Lavelle Hawkins (WR) - California
14 San Francisco 49ers (Poddy) Thu 1:00pm-2:00pm EST Steven Hauschka (K) - North Carolina State
15 San Diego Chargers (tonyvoss) Thu 2:00pm-3:00pm EST Ahmard Hall (RB) - NFL Cut - HSP
16 New England Patriots (etapar) Thu 3:00pm-4:00pm EST Justin Gage (WR) - NFL Cut
17 Kansas City Chiefs (stpmotom)  Thu 4:00pm-5:00pm EST Antwaan Randle El (WR) - NFL Cut
18 St. Louis Rams (cosmicjim70)  Thu 5:00pm-6:00pm EST Aaron Brown (RB) - NFL Cut - HSP
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)  Thu 6:00pm-7:00pm EST St. Louis Rams (D) - NFL Cut - HSP
20 Pittsburgh Steelers (bomain) Thu 7:00pm-8:00pm EST Owen Schmitt (RB) - West Virginia
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)  Thu 8:00pm-9:00pm EST Chris Chambers (WR) - NFL Cut - HSP
22 Chicago Bears (riverratk) Thu 9:00pm-10:00pm EST Ovie Mughelli (RB) - NFL Cut
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon) Thu 10:00pm-11:00pm EST Reggie Hodges (P) - Ball State
24 Detroit Lions (gwhouse)  Fri 9:00am-10:00am EST Clay Harbor (TE) - SW Missouri State

 

5/4/2014 9:08 AM (edited)
5th Round:

# Team Time Player
1 Washington Redskins (coolmay_one) - LAST PICK Fri 10:00am-11:00am EST Mickey Shuler (TE) - Penn State
2 Miami Dolphins (shawbigred) - LAST PICK Fri 11:00am-Noon EST Tyler Thigpen (QB) - NFL Cut
3 Cincinnati Bengals (doubleot) Fri Noon-1:00pm EST Laurence Maroney (RB) - NFL Cut
4 Dallas Cowboys (democolson) from Green Bay Packers  Fri 1:00pm-2:00pm EST  Buster Davis (WR) - Florida State - HSP
5 Dallas Cowboys (democolson) Fri 2:00pm-3:00pm EST Dimitri Nance (RB) - Arizona State - HSP
6     TBD
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman) Fri 3:00pm-4:00pm EST Jason Wright (RB) - NFL Cut
8 Tennessee Titans (pg99) Fri 4:00pm-5:00pm EST Terrance Copper (WR) - NFL Cut
9     TBD
10     TBD
11 Seattle Seahawks (bigpete) - LAST PICK Fri 5:00pm-6:00pm EST Michael Spurlock (WR) - NFL Cut - HSP
12     TBD
13     TBD
14 San Francisco 49ers (Poddy) - LAST PICK Fri 6:00pm-7:00pm EST James Davis (RB) - Clemson - HSP
15 San Diego Chargers (tonyvoss) - LAST PICK Fri 7:00pm-8:00pm EST Greg Jones (RB) - NFL Cut - HSP
16 New England Patriots (etapar) Fri 8:00pm-9:00pm EST Seyi Ajirotutu (WR) - Fresno State - HSP
17 Kansas City Chiefs (stpmotom)  Fri 9:00pm-10:00pm EST Josh Johnson (QB) - NFL Cut
18 St. Louis Rams (cosmicjim70)  Fri 10:00pm-11:00pm EST Tim Castille (RB) - NFL Cut - HSP
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)  Sat 9:00am-10:00am EST Sean Morey (WR) - NFL Cut - HSP
20 Pittsburgh Steelers (bomain) Sat 10:00am-11:00am EST Chase Daniel (QB) - Missouri
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)  Sat 11:00am-Noon EST Sam Hurd (WR) - NFL Cut - HSP
22 Chicago Bears (riverratk) - LAST PICK Sat Noon-1:00pm EST Jason Hill (WR) - NFL Cut 
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon) Sat 1:00pm-2:00pm EST Shaun Suisham (K) - NFL Cut 
24 Detroit Lions (gwhouse)  Sat 2:00pm-3:00pm EST Jonathan Stupar (TE) - Virginia

 

5/5/2014 8:19 PM (edited)
6th Round:

# Team Time Player
1     TBD
2     TBD
3 Cincinnati Bengals (doubleot) - LAST PICK Sat 3:00pm-4:00pm EST Max Hall (QB) - BYU 
4      
5 Dallas Cowboys (democolson) - LAST PICK Sat 5:00pm-6:00pm EST Charlie Whitehurst (QB) - Clemson
6     TBD
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman) Sat 6:00pm-7:00pm EST John Gilmore (TE) - NFL Cut - HSP
8 Tennessee Titans (pg99) Sat 7:00pm-8:00pm EST Tom Crabtree (TE) - Miami (OH)
9     TBD
10     TBD
11      
12     TBD
13     TBD
14     TBD
15     TBD
16 New England Patriots (etapar) - LAST PICK Sat 9:00pm-10:00pm EST John Gilmore (TE) - NFL Cut
17 Kansas City Chiefs (stpmotom) - LAST PICK Sat 10:00pm-11:00pm EST Chad Hall (WR) - Air Force
18 St. Louis Rams (cosmicjim70)  Sun 9:00am-10:00am EST Max Komar (WR) - Idaho - HSP
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)  Sun 10:00am-11:00am EST Naaman Roosevelt (WR) - Buffalo - HSP
20 Pittsburgh Steelers (bomain) - LAST PICK Sun 11:00am-Noon EST Johnnie Lee Higgins (WR) - NFL Cut - HSP
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)  Sun Noon-1:00pm EST Terrence Austin (WR) - UCLA - HSP
22     TBD
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon) Sun 1:00pm-2:00pm EST Craig Stevens (TE) - NFL Cut
24 Detroit Lions (gwhouse) - LAST PICK Sun 2:00pm-3:00pm EST Sage Rosenfels (QB) - NFL Cut

5/5/2014 8:24 PM (edited)
7th Round:

# Team Time Player
1     TBD
2     TBD
3     TBD
4     TBD
5     TBD
6     TBD
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman) Sun 3:00pm-4:00pm EST Chris Baker (TE) - NFL Cut - HSP
8 Tennessee Titans (pg99)  - LAST PICK Sun 4:00pm-5:00pm EST Brandon Banks (WR) - Kansas State - HSP
9     TBD
10     TBD
11     TBD
12     TBD
13     TBD
14     TBD
15     TBD
16     TBD
17     TBD
18 St. Louis Rams (cosmicjim70) - LAST PICK Sun 5:00pm-6:00pm EST Ramses Barden (WR) - Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo - HSP 
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)  Sun 6:00pm-7:00pm EST Gary Barnridge (TE) - NFL Cut - HSP
20     TBD
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)  Sun 7:00pm-8:00pm EST Hank Baskett (WR) - NFL Cut - HSP
22     TBD
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon) Sun 8:00pm-9:00pm EST David Anderson (WR) - NFL Cut
24     TBD

5/6/2014 11:42 AM (edited)
8th Round:

# Team Time Player
1     TBD
2     TBD
3     TBD
4     TBD
5     TBD
6     TBD
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman) Sun 9:00pm-10:00pm EST David Reed (WR) - Utah
8     TBD
9     TBD
10     TBD
11     TBD
12     TBD
13     TBD
14     TBD
15     TBD
16     TBD
17     TBD
18     TBD
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)  Sun 10:00pm-11:00pm EST Arnaz Battle (WR) - NFL Cut - HSP
20     TBD
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)  Mon 9:00am-10:00am EST Nate Byham (TE) - Pittsburgh - HSP
22     TBD
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon) Mon 10:00am-11:00am EST Brad Smith (WR) - NFL Cut
24     TBD

5/6/2014 11:43 AM (edited)
9th Round:

# Team Time Player
1     TBD
2     TBD
3     TBD
4     TBD
5     TBD
6     TBD
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman) Mon 11:00am-Noon EST Verran Tucker (WR) - California
8     TBD
9     TBD
10     TBD
11     TBD
12     TBD
13     TBD
14     TBD
15     TBD
16     TBD
17     TBD
18     TBD
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)  Mon Noon-1:00pm EST Duke Calhoun (WR) - Memphis - HSP
20     TBD
21 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99) - LAST PICK Mon 1:00pm-2:00pm EST Brian Clark (WR) - NFL Cut - HSP
22     TBD
23 New York Jets (DodgerDon) - LAST PICK  Mon 2:00pm-3:00pm EST James Casey (TE) - NFL Cut
24     TBD

5/6/2014 11:45 AM (edited)
10th Round:

# Team Time Player
1     TBD
2     TBD
3     TBD
4     TBD
5     TBD
6     TBD
7 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman) - LAST PICK Mon 3:00pm-4:00pm EST Desmond Clark (TE) - NFL Cut - HSP
8     TBD
9     TBD
10     TBD
11     TBD
12     TBD
13     TBD
14     TBD
15     TBD
16     TBD
17     TBD
18     TBD
19 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857) - LAST PICK Mon 4:00pm-5:00pm EST Daniel Coats (TE) - NFL Cut - HSP
20     TBD
21     TBD
22     TBD
23     TBD
24     TBD

4/22/2014 11:51 AM (edited)
Number of Draft Picks per Franchise:

# Team Total Picks
1 Arizona Cardinals (mark102857)  10 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
2 Baltimore Ravens (scrimy)    4 1,2,3,4
3 Buffalo Bills (glen87)          4 1,2,3,4
4 Chicago Bears (riverratk)  4 3,4,4,5
5 Cincinnati Bengals (doubleot)    6 1,2,3,4,5,6
6 Dallas Cowboys (democolson) 6 1,3,4,5,5,6
7 Detroit Lions (gwhouse)  6 1,2,3,4,5,6
8 Green Bay Packers (Wpg_Goldeyes) 6 1,2,2,3,4,6
9 Indianapolis Colts (MVG99)  9 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
10 Kansas City Chiefs (stpmotom)  6 1,2,3,4,5,6
11 Miami Dolphins (shawbigred)    5 1,2,2,3,5
12 New England Patriots (etapar) 6 1,2,3,4,5,6
13 New York Giants (SteveBobLDN)  4 1,2,3,4
14 New York Jets (DodgerDon) 9 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
15 Oakland Raiders (dskantor)   4 1,2,3,4
16 Philadelphia Eagles (specsman) 10 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
17 Pittsburgh Steelers (bomain) 6 1,2,3,4,5,6
18 San Diego Chargers (tonyvoss) 5 1,2,3,4,5
19 San Francisco 49ers (Poddy) 6 1,2,3,4,5,6
20 Seattle Seahawks (bigpete) 6 1,2,3,4,5,6
21 St. Louis Rams (cosmicjim70)  7 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
22 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (sjstapleton)  3 1,2,3
23 Tennessee Titans (pg99) 7 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
24 Washington Redskins (coolmay_one)  5 1,2,3,4,5

5/3/2014 5:58 PM (edited)
League Number: NFL23624
4/7/2014 10:54 AM
The Draft Board and Available List is updated, subject to some minor potential changes to Cuts.  We can get started off the clock at any time.

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