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4/18/2014 10:03 AM
Is minutes the only thing that factors into speed of player growth (outside of potential obviously)?  Does a starter getting 20 minutes see the same improvement as a bench player getting 20 minutes?  Does distro play in to it?  If I hide a guy in the corner vs running plays for him, will that change his growth?
4/18/2014 10:47 AM
Quote post by cburton23 on 4/18/2014 10:03:00 AM:
Is minutes the only thing that factors into speed of player growth (outside of potential obviously)?  

work ethic is the biggest thing that affects the speed of a player's growth, outside of practice minutes.

Does a starter getting 20 minutes see the same improvement as a bench player getting 20 minutes?  

YES.

Does distro play in to it?  If I hide a guy in the corner vs running plays for him, will that change his growth?

NO and NO.


4/18/2014 11:31 AM
The only thing I would add, is that I believe a player starting getting 20 minutes will improve his work ethic rating more than the player who doesnt start but gets the same minutes.  It's only a few points difference, but it will help improvement for the future.
4/18/2014 3:26 PM
I'm pretty sure starts do bump up the rate of growth. (In other words, a starter getting 20 mpg will grow faster than a bench guy getting 20 mpg.) I don't know for sure whether starts boost growth directly, or indirectly by bumping up WE which then produces faster growth.
4/18/2014 4:35 PM
bh: you know we had this conversation two years ago, right? :) 
4/18/2014 4:43 PM
with all of that in mind, its worth noting that starts will improve iq, independent of the effect of starts on WE.
4/18/2014 11:25 PM
Posted by jtt8355 on 4/18/2014 4:35:00 PM (view original):
bh: you know we had this conversation two years ago, right? :) 
Holy cow jtt, you've got a way better memory than I do. :) Nice work - I stand corrected.
4/19/2014 4:28 AM
Jtt what are the biggest factors in improving IQ... I recruited a Freshman Bigman in the Low WE Test of 9 and D+/D+ IQ... After 16 starts and 20 mpg he is 11 WE and C-/C- IQ
4/19/2014 8:56 AM
Posted by jtt8355 on 4/18/2014 4:35:00 PM (view original):
bh: you know we had this conversation two years ago, right? :) 
Funny stuff Jtt. When I saw this post, I thought, "I could swear I have been part of this conversation before." Then I saw your link. Sure enough. Good memory.
4/19/2014 11:29 PM
half: high school GPA, practice minutes, work ethic and playing time. i included starts because of this:

will having a team full guys(lets say 10) with A IQ's help a freshman learn the offense faster? (Fregoe - Hall of Famer - 2:51 PM)

No, the only factors that go into IQ improvement once they get to college are playing time, starts, work ethic, practice time and their intelligence.


(from the same dev chat: "Playing time carries more weight than starting - the primary reason for including starts at all in that logic is the assumption that the starters will get more attention during practice than the non-starters."

but there's another developer chat that says:

Will a player who comes off the bench as a Freshman, 15 minutes a game, develop his IQ rating at the same pace as a Freshman player who plays 15 minutes a game but is a starter? (bigteniowa - Hall of Famer - 2:57 PM)

For IQ, only minutes played matter, not whether a player started or not.

so you'll have to make your own conclusion whether starts helps the improvement.


4/19/2014 11:31 PM
jp / bh: i only remembered discussing it before. its amazing how easy it is to google search the forums and developer chats to find what you're looking for (compared to using the site).
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