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7/16/2014 6:16 PM
Assuming his last 4 or 5 years wind down as expected, he'll have 3,000 hits, close to 500 home runs, a couple decades of GG quality defense at third, and somewhere over 80 WAR.

On the downside, his career OPS+ is only 115, thanks to a sub-7% walk rate.

Hall of Famer?



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7/16/2014 11:04 PM
He'll probably finish north of 80 WAR. I think Bonds is the only eligible player with more than 80 WAR not in. I think Jeter is at something like 73, FWIW.
7/18/2014 12:42 AM
Best similarity score by age is Ron Santo...

So few 3B in the HOF...pile the numbers up and sometime around year 10-15 of eligibility he gets in.

7/18/2014 5:45 AM
Santo is no HOFer
7/18/2014 5:48 PM
Outside of the fact, that he is, in fact,  a HOFer.

looking at black ink, grey ink, and JAWS, he belongs. Major part of his career in the pitching-dominant 60s he complied impressive OPS+, plus was an outstanding glove.

Only 13 3B in the HOF...why so few?

7/18/2014 6:28 PM

Because, if they added any, they'd have to be worse than Santo.   Which is hard to do.

7/18/2014 6:40 PM
Graig Nettles and Buddy Bell for the HOF!!!
7/18/2014 7:02 PM
Rico Petrocelli and Mike Pagliarulo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/18/2014 7:13 PM
Posted by seamar_116 on 7/18/2014 5:48:00 PM (view original):
Outside of the fact, that he is, in fact,  a HOFer.

looking at black ink, grey ink, and JAWS, he belongs. Major part of his career in the pitching-dominant 60s he complied impressive OPS+, plus was an outstanding glove.

Only 13 3B in the HOF...why so few?

I think third basemen get held to an offensive standard similar to first baseman, when the reality is their defensive requirements are closer to that of a second baseman or center fielder. It makes it tough. Guys like Roberto Alomar can cruise into the hall with 66 career WAR and an OPS+ of 116, while Santo is considered a bad HOF pick with 70 career WAR and an OPS+ of 125.

Looking at Beltre's similar batters through age 34, you see names like Santo, Al Kaline, Eddie Murray, Cal Ripken, and Yastrzemski. I think he belongs.
7/18/2014 7:21 PM
The Glider, Ed Charles!
7/19/2014 8:13 PM
The guy only tried in a contract year until steroids became all the rage
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7/20/2014 8:24 AM (edited)
Damn
Words are too big for Sunday morning.

Really?
Average hitter with great glove in LA until last year of contract.
average hitting stats in seatte, gets a one year from Boston and suddenly hits again
Gets to Texas and improves numbers every year AFTER peak age for players (roids?)
7/20/2014 8:45 AM
He definitely screams of roids...not that Boston put complementary syringes in every locker in their clubhouse.
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