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9/2/2014 11:38 AM
Posted by The Taint on 9/2/2014 11:27:00 AM (view original):
Victim blaming.  Awesome. 

Are you saying it's out of the realm of possibility that the only reason this happened was because he was black?

Yes, this happened because he refused to leave an "employees only" area of the bank building.  Where he was, in a skyway is absolutely a public place, as according to St. Paul/Minneapolis city ordinance, all skyway's in the city are public access.  There's a Facebook page, inviting the public to sit in the very area he was chased out of.  Read the comments on the Facebook page and you'll that the city ordinance is a well known thing in Minneapolis.  
Who's victim blaming?

Are you saying that it's out of the realm of possibility that there may be some other reason why this happened other than he's black?

Is he the first black guy to ever sit in that section of the skyway?  If not, have all the others had the cops called on them?  Or if this is an isolated incident, then what triggered a call to the cops for him, and not for any other blacks who have ever been there?

9/2/2014 11:40 AM
Posted by The Taint on 9/2/2014 11:27:00 AM (view original):
Again, if he had really broken a law, or been in the wrong, charges would not have been dropped.
There are lots of reasons why charges get dropped.  It's not always because the person is innocent.
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9/2/2014 11:47 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 9/2/2014 11:38:00 AM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 9/2/2014 11:27:00 AM (view original):
Victim blaming.  Awesome. 

Are you saying it's out of the realm of possibility that the only reason this happened was because he was black?

Yes, this happened because he refused to leave an "employees only" area of the bank building.  Where he was, in a skyway is absolutely a public place, as according to St. Paul/Minneapolis city ordinance, all skyway's in the city are public access.  There's a Facebook page, inviting the public to sit in the very area he was chased out of.  Read the comments on the Facebook page and you'll that the city ordinance is a well known thing in Minneapolis.  
Who's victim blaming?

Are you saying that it's out of the realm of possibility that there may be some other reason why this happened other than he's black?

Is he the first black guy to ever sit in that section of the skyway?  If not, have all the others had the cops called on them?  Or if this is an isolated incident, then what triggered a call to the cops for him, and not for any other blacks who have ever been there?

Well, let's look at the evidence we have.

We know it was a public area where anyone was welcome to sit.
We know that the guard told him it was private and asked him to leave.
We have statements from others saying that they have sat there without being hassled.
We have the video of Lollie legally refusing a request and being arrested for it.
We know the charges were immediately dropped.

To me, that looks like Lollie did nothing wrong and the police ****** up. How does it look to you?

9/2/2014 11:53 AM
We don't know SPECIFICALLY what happened that caused the guard to ask him to leave.

You and taint seem content to blindly accept RACISM!!! as the reason.  The only reason.

Maybe it was.

But maybe it wasn't.

Things don't typically happen in a vacuum.  There often is some precipitating event.

You and taint don't seem the least bit curious to know if there was, because you can't see past RACISM!!!

If you ever get called for jury duty, make sure you tell the judge that you can tell RACISM!!! from a mile away without knowing all the facts of the story.

9/2/2014 11:55 AM
Posted by The Taint on 9/2/2014 11:45:00 AM (view original):
And yes victim blaming. This guy did nothing wrong but you keep throwing up question after question even after his story was corroborated by a witness. (Reason for charges being dropped).
And did it ever occur to you that maybe some racist citizen caused the ruckus by calling the cops in the first place?  And the cops were just responding to a call about a disruptive person refusing to leave, hence their aggression?

If you were sitting in front of a bank, and I called the cops saying "Some white (or whatever you are) guy is in front of the bank wearing a jersey with 'Taint' on the back, and I think I saw a gun", do you think they'd be gentle and peaceful picking you up?

It's pretty likely that the ruckus was caused by (a) whoever called it in (have we heard the call?), (b) a guy with a chip on his shoulder, who knows his rights, and is willing to get tased to make a point, and (c) taser-happy cops who were told that some guy was trespassing and refusing to leave.

9/2/2014 12:03 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 9/2/2014 11:53:00 AM (view original):
We don't know SPECIFICALLY what happened that caused the guard to ask him to leave.

You and taint seem content to blindly accept RACISM!!! as the reason.  The only reason.

Maybe it was.

But maybe it wasn't.

Things don't typically happen in a vacuum.  There often is some precipitating event.

You and taint don't seem the least bit curious to know if there was, because you can't see past RACISM!!!

If you ever get called for jury duty, make sure you tell the judge that you can tell RACISM!!! from a mile away without knowing all the facts of the story.

Lollie said he was just sitting there. There isn't a competing statement. No one else has said he was doing anything else.

So yeah, it seems like he was just sitting there. What else could he have been doing?
9/2/2014 12:05 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 9/2/2014 12:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 9/2/2014 11:53:00 AM (view original):
We don't know SPECIFICALLY what happened that caused the guard to ask him to leave.

You and taint seem content to blindly accept RACISM!!! as the reason.  The only reason.

Maybe it was.

But maybe it wasn't.

Things don't typically happen in a vacuum.  There often is some precipitating event.

You and taint don't seem the least bit curious to know if there was, because you can't see past RACISM!!!

If you ever get called for jury duty, make sure you tell the judge that you can tell RACISM!!! from a mile away without knowing all the facts of the story.

Lollie said he was just sitting there. There isn't a competing statement. No one else has said he was doing anything else.

So yeah, it seems like he was just sitting there. What else could he have been doing?
Is it typical for a person to call the cops on somebody who was "just sitting there", when it sounds like other people were "just sitting there" too?
9/2/2014 12:11 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/2/2014 10:42:00 AM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 9/2/2014 10:38:00 AM (view original):
It will be when he's paid, and a big loss for the citizens of the Twin Cities.
Will it? 
???
9/2/2014 12:13 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 9/2/2014 12:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/2/2014 12:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 9/2/2014 11:53:00 AM (view original):
We don't know SPECIFICALLY what happened that caused the guard to ask him to leave.

You and taint seem content to blindly accept RACISM!!! as the reason.  The only reason.

Maybe it was.

But maybe it wasn't.

Things don't typically happen in a vacuum.  There often is some precipitating event.

You and taint don't seem the least bit curious to know if there was, because you can't see past RACISM!!!

If you ever get called for jury duty, make sure you tell the judge that you can tell RACISM!!! from a mile away without knowing all the facts of the story.

Lollie said he was just sitting there. There isn't a competing statement. No one else has said he was doing anything else.

So yeah, it seems like he was just sitting there. What else could he have been doing?
Is it typical for a person to call the cops on somebody who was "just sitting there", when it sounds like other people were "just sitting there" too?
No. Hence the big deal being made by everyone.
9/2/2014 12:24 PM
Well, it's good to see that you're so open minded to other possibilities.
9/2/2014 12:25 PM
Posted by The Taint on 9/2/2014 11:41:00 AM (view original):
Why did they tell him it was a private area when it wasn't?
The same reason I'd tell someone to beat it they stood in front of my house all day.   Legally, on the sidewalk.

How would you react if someone stood by your parked car for hours on end?
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