Posted by burnsy483 on 12/18/2014 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/18/2014 10:56:00 AM (view original):
No, let's just go to the movies like the POTUS said. 

I get what he's saying. There's no credible threat, continue to live your lives the way you would have.

The threat stopped a major player from releasing a much advertised movie with two well-known actors starring.

That's not really living lives the way we would have.

Posted by The Taint on 12/18/2014 11:03:00 AM (view original):
He's saying don't be afraid. If you want to let terrorists rule your life, go for it. I'm going to see the hobbit.

I'm not afraid.   I want to go see "The Interview".    When/where is it opening?

From CNN.com:

"I think we underestimated North Korea's cybercapabilities," said Victor Cha, director of Asian studies at Georgetown University. "They certainly didn't evidence this sort of capability in the previous attacks."

He called the Sony hack, and the studio's decision to pull "The Interview," "a big win" for Pyongyang.

"They got the U.S. government to admit that North Korea was the source of this, and there's no (public) action plan ... in response to it," Cha said. "I think, from their perspective in Pyongyang, they're probably popping the champagne corks."

Posted by tecwrg on 12/18/2014 11:05:00 AM (view original):

From CNN.com:

"I think we underestimated North Korea's cybercapabilities," said Victor Cha, director of Asian studies at Georgetown University. "They certainly didn't evidence this sort of capability in the previous attacks."

He called the Sony hack, and the studio's decision to pull "The Interview," "a big win" for Pyongyang.

"They got the U.S. government to admit that North Korea was the source of this, and there's no (public) action plan ... in response to it," Cha said. "I think, from their perspective in Pyongyang, they're probably popping the champagne corks."

The director of Asian Studies at Georgetown knows what the leaders of countries are thinking...good job, CNN.

I don't think the US government has admitted that for sure, have they?

Posted by The Taint on 12/18/2014 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Blame the movie theaters. It was their call to pull it, not the governments.

Yes, exactly.

Posted by tecwrg on 12/18/2014 10:40:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/18/2014 10:17:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 12/18/2014 10:04:00 AM (view original):
Because "do nothing" is usually not a good deterrent against future actions.

A) What action?
B) what would be a good deterent?

A)  Um, future threats?
B)  I've already said that I don't know.  Something more than "do nothing" and less than "thernonuclear war".

A) we face threats all the time. We don't even know how real this threat is.
B) again, you clearly have no idea if do nothing is or isn't the best answer.

Posted by burnsy483 on 12/18/2014 11:09:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 12/18/2014 11:05:00 AM (view original):

From CNN.com:

"I think we underestimated North Korea's cybercapabilities," said Victor Cha, director of Asian studies at Georgetown University. "They certainly didn't evidence this sort of capability in the previous attacks."

He called the Sony hack, and the studio's decision to pull "The Interview," "a big win" for Pyongyang.

"They got the U.S. government to admit that North Korea was the source of this, and there's no (public) action plan ... in response to it," Cha said. "I think, from their perspective in Pyongyang, they're probably popping the champagne corks."

The director of Asian Studies at Georgetown knows what the leaders of countries are thinking...good job, CNN.

I don't think the US government has admitted that for sure, have they?

Not yet.  Reports yesterday indicated that they may "officially" say something today.

Posted by raucous on 12/18/2014 11:03:00 AM (view original):
...of course, since we are so much in debt to the handler, thanks to the reckless borrowing that Obama has done in the past 6 years, we are on a leash to China too.

You realize that the debt isn't equity, right. China doesn't own us. In reality, the more debt of ours they own, the more control we have. Their interests become tied to ours.

Posted by The Taint on 12/18/2014 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Blame the movie theaters. It was their call to pull it, not the governments.

Doesn't matter.  Terrorist threats were made.  People/businesses are reacting.  Many entities have already or will be negatively impacted by the movie not being shown.

Are you OK with that?

Posted by burnsy483 on 12/18/2014 11:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 12/18/2014 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Blame the movie theaters. It was their call to pull it, not the governments.

Yes, exactly.

Seems to me, when other governments affect commerce in the US, that our government should get involved. 

This is, of course, assuming NK was officially involved.

Posted by tecwrg on 12/18/2014 11:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 12/18/2014 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Blame the movie theaters. It was their call to pull it, not the governments.

Doesn't matter.  Terrorist threats were made.  People/businesses are reacting.  Many entities have already or will be negatively impacted by the movie not being shown.

Are you OK with that?

No one is OK with that. It doesn't make the solution clear cut. Right now, no one doubts that we are much more powerful and capable than NK. We have nothing to prove and everything to lose.

Posted by bad_luck on 12/18/2014 11:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 12/18/2014 10:40:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/18/2014 10:17:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 12/18/2014 10:04:00 AM (view original):
Because "do nothing" is usually not a good deterrent against future actions.

A) What action?
B) what would be a good deterent?

A)  Um, future threats?
B)  I've already said that I don't know.  Something more than "do nothing" and less than "thernonuclear war".

A) we face threats all the time. We don't even know how real this threat is.
B) again, you clearly have no idea if do nothing is or isn't the best answer.

A)  It doesn't matter how "real this threat is".  Maybe the threats are just smoke.  POTUS thinks they are.  But they were enough to cause decisions to be made that are resulting in negative financial impact to a number of entities (Sony, and the movie theaters).

B)  Are you advocating "ignore it and hope it doesn't happen again"?

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/18/2014 11:19:00 AM (view original):

Posted by burnsy483 on 12/18/2014 11:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 12/18/2014 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Blame the movie theaters. It was their call to pull it, not the governments.

Yes, exactly.

Seems to me, when other governments affect commerce in the US, that our government should get involved. 

This is, of course, assuming NK was officially involved.

I blame Sony and the theaters for allowing fear to affect our way of life.

Let's figure out if the NK government was involved, and if they are, figure out what to do from there. I'm not sure there's a answer that doesn't involve violence, and I don't think asking China to "get their dog on a leash" does much either.