I'm playing in a WS right now in one of my favorite themes, OG Twist.  The league # is MLB111091.

After I won the second round, I clicked on my WS opponent's stats to see what I was up against.  Well, I wound up spending a few more hours than I'd intended on this advance scouting, ha ha!  What I believe I uncovered is one owner running 4 teams in this theme, which he's apparently done for a few seasons now.  

Let's being with the owner IDs, and the season #'s they've played in this theme.  (For simplicity's sake I'm using the season #'s as listed in the League Records link, although this theme is much older, but with many seasons not linked): I've sent all this info to the commish and to Admin.  They're still deciding what to do.  Meanwhile, we're 3 games into the WS (I'm losing, 2 games to 1).  Both teams are in a TOC that simmed its first game this morning.

Stay tuned...

well seems like cheating isn't limited to Little League! lol

so what your saying is that one owner can have many teams under other names this that right

Three possibilities:

1. The same person owns the IDs.

2. The IDs are owned by different people who are VERY friendly with one another.

3. The IDs are all legit, and everything I've outlined above is coincidence.

I'm going with #1...

if that is right I have know that for long time there no way to stop that

Yikes, talk about taking the fun out of a great, long running theme. It would appear to me it's up to the commissioner to step up and have administration disavow any reward for this "gamer-of-the-system". I play in this theme and also and want to shout out a big "Thanks" to crazystengel for doing the detective work and uncovering this type of cheating. The evidence is over whelming. As part of this league, I was able to review what he posted. It's entirely accurate & points to the owner taking unfair advantage of the theme's spirit.

On a separate but related note, I really hope we don't hear any rebuttal to the effect of "I paid my money I can do what I want" or "the other league owners had a chance to veto my self dealing trades and they didn't". A level playing field is all we ask for in our quest to spend a couple months investing our time in a hope of competing.

I, for one, will not be playing in the OG Twist until there is some resolution to this. Time to step up for the future ff09 and set some boundaries.
Absurd.

All 4 accounts (pillsbury, skone, coupeville and ccholder) should be booted out.

Jackie Robinson Pacific Northwest?

Great research, crazy! Thanks for publicizing this abuse of the rules.

Just for the record, I only have one screen name, and no family members or personal friends who use this site. I hate the fact that people are allowed to have more than one account on the site. What is the point of doing that, other than in an attempt to circumvent the rules?

I'll be interested to see if the WIS administration decides to do anything to stop this abuse. If they can't publicize the screen names of members with more than one account, maybe they could come up a way to bar people from making trades with themselves, and with people using the same mailing address. To do nothing will invite more cheating, and will likely cause a lot of people to stop using the site for fear that they're not getting a fair shake.

At a minimum, if I was running the OG twist league, I would start by barring trades. I know that trades are a popular feature of the league, but I've been in the league for several seasons, and I don't think I've ever made a trade.

BTW, I don't hold ff09 responsible for this. I've run many leagues, and I know of no way to tell if someone using more than one screen name has entered multiple teams, unless they choose to tell you. I don't think I've ever permitted trades, though, since it seems to invite abuse.

I don't hold ff09 responsible, either.  As commish you have no way of knowing if there's an owner in your league with multiple teams, until you notice something fishy once the season starts, or something fishy is brought to your attention.  I'm still holding out hope that ff09 or Admin can do something about this season (pillsbury just beat my team in game 4 to go up 3-1 in the WS, so time is running out).

You make a good point about banning trades for this theme, where AAA can play a key role in a team's success.  I've been an active trader in this theme, but I realize it would be more fair if we banned it, and I've posted that in the league's message forum in the past.

Would love to see the Pillsbury response. Has he been invited to comment in this forum ?

He can comment if he wants.  I haven't said anything to him because I'm not particularly interested in his response, and I also think the commish and Admin should be the ones to address him on this.

I have been here 12 years I have only one name in here gees51 I have seen this abuse many times would have said something but didn't think adm cared I thout all thay care about was your money oh well