Mavioric12 selected the 1958 Red Sox for r4.

Mavioric12' daggers against whalers10 are the only cheap 1B, Mike Squires and Comiskey Park.

Easy choice for the first dagger for mavioric12.

1958 Ted Williams is gone

OK redcped, after looking at your situation I've concluded that one of your SPs from the '68 Senators will have to get the dagger. None of those position players on the '68 Senators are indispensable. I thought about taking out McMullen at 3B (but you'll probably prefer Sabo anyway) and I can't see you using Frank Howard when you have better OF choices. After losing Jackson you'll still have several pitchers available to fill out your starting rotation - but affordable
starters will be at a premium with that $80M cap. You'll have to do without Camillo Pascual.

Posted by calhoop on 4/4/2024 7:36:00 PM (view original):
Easy choice for the first dagger for mavioric12.

1958 Ted Williams is gone

Also Stadium.

Posted by ermocito on 4/4/2024 7:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by calhoop on 4/4/2024 7:36:00 PM (view original):
Easy choice for the first dagger for mavioric12.

1958 Ted Williams is gone

Also Stadium.

Olympic Stadium in Montreal is also daggered

The KC Westport Bus Drivers at Forbes Field (1948 Pirates) --- Current Payroll: $79,720,646

All the Player Listings are simply Copy and Paste from View Performance History ...

Did not check but all salaries should be correct as i just opened player tab from Team Draft Center page

Used 5 Tabs : 1 Tab for the Bad Neighbor Draft Entries and 4 for the 4 Assigned Year/Team(s) to compare Diamond Positions and Pitchers ...

Comments : Redo had Problems with Catcher and SS and consequently everywhere due to domino effect ... Terrible but you know next season I will be watching like a hawk to include the 2nd cheap position player as was horrific this season :) ... Win 63 Games :)

Had one Until player Jose Morales --- Position: DH/C/1B/OF

I had to do without chosen $6.9 Mil 1978 Amos Otis in CF ... It seems as if I would not have been able to use the Daggered OF Kiner even at $6 Mil!

Do not know what to think of my Pitching Staff --- how it will perform ... I would have chosen the Daggered 1968 Stan Bahnsen -- but even at $7.5 Mil he seems in retrospect too expensive ! ...

Would not have chosen Daggered Royal Stadium -2 OF just fine but Singles Doubles Triples a bit too daunting for my Pitching Staff I think

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Chose Forbes Field (1948 Pirates) as IF Rangy with 1B Carew C/B --- 2B Murtaugh B/B+ --- 3B Brett B/A- --- and SS Fresh C/A ... Thought I may get lucky that way and maybe get a few base hits

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Maybe too many IP with 1520 but decided on 5 Man Rotation and wanted no Fatigue considering the Pitching Staffs mediocrity

1978 Royals (6)

1978 Freddie Patek Kansas City Royals Position: SS Salary: $2,482,511

1978 George Brett Kansas City Royals Position: 3B Salary: $5,078,187

1978 Larry Gura Kansas City Royals Position: P Salary: $6,279,701

1978 Paul Splittorff Kansas City Royals Position: P Salary: $6,254,619

1978 Al Hrabosky Kansas City Royals Position: P Salary: $2,095,609

1978 Steve Mingori Kansas City Royals Position: P Salary: $1.63M

1968 New York Yankees (7)

1968 Jake Gibbs New York Yankees Position: C Salary: $3,088,244

1968 Tom Tresh New York Yankees Position: SS Salary: $3,410,448

1968 Mike Ferraro New York Yankees Position: 3B Salary: $392,921

1968 Joe Pepitone New York Yankees Position: OF Salary: $3,043,404

1968 Mel Stottlemyre Sr. New York Yankees Position: P Salary: $6,888,41

1968 Fritz Peterson New York Yankees Position: P Salary: $5,673,227

1968 Steve Hamilton New York Yankees Position: P Salary: $1,840,680

1978 Twins (6)

1978 Rod Carew Minnesota Twins Position: 1B Salary: $5,448,589

1978 Dan Ford Minnesota Twins Position: OF Salary: $4,465,932

1978 Bombo Rivera Minnesota Twins Position: OF Salary: $1,484,448

1978 Jose Morales Minnesota Twins Position: Util Salary: $1,430,805

1978 Dave Goltz Minnesota Twins Position: P Salary: $5,300,802

1978 Mike Marshall Minnesota Twins Position: P Salary: $2,889,859

1948 Pirates (6)

1948 Danny Murtaugh Pittsburgh Pirates Position: 2B Salary: $4,458,517

1948 Wally Westlake Pittsburgh Pirates Position: OF Salary: $3,453,013

1948 Ed Fitz Gerald Pittsburgh Pirates Position: C Salary: $1,534,679

1948 Monty Basgall Pittsburgh Pirates Position: 2B Salary: $211,217

1948 Max West Pittsburgh Pirates Position: 1B Salary: $682,365

1948 Woody Main Pittsburgh Pirates Position: P Salary: $200,582

dcpeterso please dagger my 78 White Sox for second dagger.

Posted by kentol on 4/4/2024 7:45:00 PM (view original):
OK redcped, after looking at your situation I've concluded that one of your SPs from the '68 Senators will have to get the dagger. None of those position players on the '68 Senators are indispensable. I thought about taking out McMullen at 3B (but you'll probably prefer Sabo anyway) and I can't see you using Frank Howard when you have better OF choices. After losing Jackson you'll still have several pitchers available to fill out your starting rotation - but affordable
starters will be at a premium with that $80M cap. You'll have to do without Camillo Pascual.

I was indeed planning to use him. I had to downgrade to a less impressive Senators SP and then I started tinkering all over the place. Hopefully for the better.

PS: Can't figure out how to shed a Red to make Sabo work and do have Howard in there because I need all the Sens I can get.

dcpeterso, your second dagger will be Jim Wynn 68 Astros

I think I'm ready to stop messing with this roster and post it. I've got over $150K I can't figure out how to spend, but that happens with limited player pools.

I had two SP daggered, and that forced some shifts. I'll have to run a tandem to replace Danny Jackson and use a worse Senators SP in Joe Coleman after losing Camilo Pascual. My top two SP will be Gaylord Perry (78 Padres, 2.87 ERC#) and Mike Moore (88 Mariners, 2.93), followed by Coleman (3.68) and the combo of Jose Rijo (2.58) and Scott Bankhead (2.52). Rijo has 164 IP but only 3.3 IP/G, which makes him less useful as a SP, so I have to pair him with Bankhead's 136 IP. That's actually a 300 IP tandem, and I'll be trying to skip Coleman as often as possible to get more out of those two. Coleman's stats actually look decent, but because he's from 1968 he normalizes badly.

The bullpen is fairly stout with 88 Reds John Franco (2.00) and Rob Dibble (2.26) along with Rollie Fingers (2.05) and Mike Jackson (2.75). Those guys combine for 335 IP for the late innings. All told I have 1,415 IP, a 2.89 ERA, .229 OAV, and 1.14 WHIP.

I went with as many of my cheapest backups as possible on offense, so I have four players under 400K and a pretty awful bench. For the most part, though, the lineup won't need too many days off. My strengths are several guys with speed, a few guys with high OBP, and a few guys who can hit it out of the park. Pretty much no one actually can do multiple of those things, but hey what do you want for $80M?

I took my two cheapest catchers, because the guy who's going to play most of the time there is my backup 1B, Gene Tenace (.224/.392/.409), a walking machine with an A- arm and a little pop for $3.2M. Playing 1B will be Alvin Davis (.295/.412/.462). Over at 2B is Harold Reynolds (.283/.340/.383) with his 90 speed but awful base stealing (35 SB, 29 CS ... what are you doing out there, Harold?). At 3B I had to go with Ken McMullen (.248/.326/.382) because I couldn't get another Red in there to use Chris Sabo instead. Also, because when I was 10 I attended Ken McMullen's summer baseball camp and had a wonderful time (except for some of my baseball cards getting stolen out of my room). At SS, I ultimately went with Barry Larkin (.296/.347/.429) over the much weaker bat of Ozzie Smith.

I had a tough time figuring out my outfield and had to give up on a great range guy in CF. Part of my challenge was lineup balance, as I'm really RH-heavy and had to at least get one LH bat out there. I've got a 44-homer guy with a lead glove in Frank Howard (.274/.338/.552), a slightly miscast CF in Dave Winfield (.308/.367/.499), and Kal Daniels (.291/.397/.463). I had to pass on Eric Davis unfortunately, because his B range would have been an upgrade in CF, and he's got speed and power. But with the team restrictions and needs elsewhere, he got squeezed out.

I'm not exactly sure how these guys will line up yet, but I'll try to get some OBP/speed guys up there ahead of Howard and Winfield and Davis. All told I've got 5,837 PA with a slash of .270/.351/.425, though the pitiful bench drags that down a good bit.

We'll be playing in San Diego Stadium, a pitchers' park that takes away things we aren't great at (2B and 3B) without punishing the 1B or HR that we'll need some of.

1988 Cincinnati Reds (7)
P Jose Rijo, $4,875,333
P John Franco, $2,914,263
P Rob Dibble, $1,879,320
C Jeff Reed, $817,305
3B Buddy Bell, $202,327
SS Barry Larkin, $5,697,421
OF Kal Daniels, $4,850,043

1968 Washington Senators (6)
P Joe Coleman, $4,765,342
P Dave Baldwin, $598,738
3B Ken McMullen, $4,833,801
SS Ed Brinkman, $618,023
OF Frank Howard, $4,991,322
OF Brant Alyea, $1,233,551

1988 Seattle Mariners (6)
P Scott Bankhead, $4,016,429
P Mike Moore, $5,937,033
P Mike Jackson, $2,701,143
1B Alvin Davis, $4,358,984
2B Harold Reynolds, $4,473,523
OF (Util) Rich Renteria, $312,162

1978 San Diego Padres (6)
P Gaylord Perry, $6,975,288
P Rollie Fingers, $3,602,239
C Dave Roberts, $384,803
1B Gene Tenace, $3,286,216
2B Chuck Baker, $202,706
OF Dave Winfield, $5,315,423

Park: San Diego Stadium

Meanwhile I’m here still waiting on dagger one.

claytonengel please the suspense is killing me…

Las Sacramento Athletics
Oakland Alameda Coliseum (78)

no comment
Kubek will end up playing mostly OF

Oakland A’s 78’

John Henry Johnson P 4049825
Dave Revering 1B. 2637893
Alan Wirth P. 1570911
Jeff Newman C. 1891876
Rico Carty DH/OF 1085360
Mike Norris P 882371

NY Yankees 58’

Whitey Ford P 7377777
Bob Turley P 6471064
Elston Howard C 4552197
Norm Seibern OF 4344139
Tony Kubek SS 3921953
Andy Carey 3B 3043289
Ryan Duren P 2708957

Brooklyn Dodgers 48’

Rex Barney P 6667154
Preacher Roe P 5323041
Karl Erskine P 1356430
Billy Cox 3B 1370606
Eddie Miksis 2B 987384
Preston Ward 1B 694745

Detroit Tigers 38’

Charlie Gerhringer 2B 6354301
Billy Rogell SS 3956242
Dixie Walker OF 3663468
Harry Eisenstat P 3225649
Jo Jo White OF 1340405
Roy Cullebine OF 472164

total $79, 949, 201

Second dagger for ermocito

I went round and round with this pick because there isn't anyone on the 58 Orioles that is important to this team. In fact when I looked at his team, I said, please don;t have me dagger the 58 O's but I knew he would because all the other teams had easy people to dagger.

So my first idea was Gus Triandos who would be the second catcher daggered, and that would leave his only catcher option as Rookie of the Year Johnny Bench. I thought this was okay until I saw Bench had 40 doubles and with guys like Appling and Rose at the top of the lineup, those doubles would be killers.

Then I went with the backup shortstop Castleman, even though he has another guy at 700k also, but I thought he might want to use both of them. Problem with that is he would use another White Sox instead which would ease the pressure of getting six Chisox onto the team, and it would only cost 1.2 million.

I thought of fourth outfielder Nieman, but Woodling is about the same for about the same price.

I thought of Hoyt Wilhelm with his .86 WHIP and a bargain at 1.8 million though only 44 innings, but the Braves have another 44 inning reliever with a 1.03 WHIP and is a bit cheaper, and I didn't think he could go with two 40 inning pitchers on a 10 man staff.

After doing roster after roster I settled on a guy that no matter how I messed with the roster, he was included in it.

Don't know if this will hurt at all, but the dagger falls on

Arnie Portocarrera (P)

If I only put a little thought into it....

Ribbentrop- Feel free to dagger the 1948 St. Louis Browns.