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A way to retain users is what WifS needs. I'm at D3 and recruiting doesn't bother me. But I guarantee the user at Elon dropping big resources on a fellow who'll be SG3 at KY isn't very happy when KY shows and says "Hi, I'm Kentucky. We lost out on options 1-8. You're 9th on our list" isn't exactly enamored with the game.
What will happen is the coach at Elon will learn the type of player that he can reasonably expect to recruit and still win. Or he will learn a better strategy for getting a higher ranked player. He will learn a lesson from a recruiting loss and move on.
Every coach at a power conference team has successfully navigated through the lower rungs of D1, figuring out how to recruit and win. It's not impossible and we don't need to have everything be equal across the board.
Or they quit.
The dwindling population of HD suggests that I'm right.
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You have NO idea what the dwindling population of HD suggests. None.
You are basing this upon what your own experience was like 10 years ago. That's you. That's not the rest of the coaches out there. Unless you have some data that you'd like to share?
The fact that most coaches play 1-2 seasons at D3 and then quit suggests you are not right since they don't even get to D1 and then lose to UK in a lopsided recruiting battle.
I'm not concerned about the users that try a season of free HD and quit, and Fox probably shouldn't be, either. This is a niche market they're trying to reach. They have to assume that a lot of people either aren't going to get it, or aren't going to have time to learn it. And the mobile-friendlier design of 3.0 may increase that retention at that early spot a little. I'm more concerned about keeping the players like mike - who *should* be into a sports management simulation.
And anyway, I think we can assume at least *some* of those early quitters figured out pretty early that it was actually going to be real life years before they would get a sniff at real March Madness, and that does play into this discussion as well.
All I know is, I have gotten a lot of friends to try out HD. About 8 of them only played 1-3 seasons. Obviously I asked them why they didn't want to play anymore. None them were concerned about how long it'd take to get to D1 or how difficult it would be. All of them were just basically bored during the season.
3 of my other friends are still playing and are over 10 seasons. They're really in to it and enjoy the game for what it is. They're all at D3 and have no plans on moving up. None of them go on the message boards so they don't even know if it's easy or difficult to do so. They just have no interest in it.
Ok that's your experience, but I don't think your experience is necessarily all that common. And you have to keep in mind that a big ad push isn't going to be targeting primarily friends of current users who can establish a nice little fantasy-type conference together. When they're advertising on fox broadcasts - as we all want them to do - they're reaching individual college basketball fans, most likely fans of D1 programs (because that's what is televised).
Youre right that no individual users have a good big-picture view of why most players leave, nor do any of us have the kind of interest in an objective answer to that question that WIS has. We're all just speculating, and mostly just projecting our own subjective biases and preferences here.