there might be a handful of teams SO BAD it might be a struggle. i didnt think that was the challenge though - wasnt the challenge to take a regular crappy mid major and try to make them successful? the debate was about taking mid majors over the hump of regular NT appearances, right? so i guess i dont know why an extremely ****** program would be a requirement. sure, if you take a team full of terrible players in hawaii on a d-, this could be a tough target for even the best coach. but i dont think that is really relevant to the discussion..