Round 1 Standings, 2020 Topic

Posted by milest on 8/11/2020 1:25:00 PM (view original):
I said it last year and I'll probably say it every year going forward:
There shouldn't be a bonus for just making the playoffs... It simply is not fair and fairness should be what matters.
13 teams made the playoffs with 83 or fewer wins----- Fewest being 79 (x2)
11 teams with 90 or more wins missed the playoffs-----Most being 94 (x2)
You CANNOT justify giving a bonus to a team that won 79 games while a team winning 94 games gets no bonus. It makes no sense whatsoever.
As somebody who had a team miss the playoffs with 94 wins in this tournament, I can tell you that I'd much rather have that happen to me (and miss out on the "whopping" 2 point playoff bonus) then to see a team go 80-82 (elvisgump) and accumulate more bonus points (9) than my five playoff teams combined (8). And it's not even close. I'm pretty sure brianjw would agree with that sentiment.

If you are so worried about bad records winning the division, we can always go back to seeding teams into each division like I did when this tournament first started. This would be a way to eliminate luck... of course that assumes a division with at least one good owner won't have a bad record win the division. Interestingly enough, I changed that rule because a lot of people wanted the luck involved of random divisions.

That being said, I never meant to imply the rule should change this year.... But something to consider in the future.
8/11/2020 4:36 PM
Posted by schwarze on 8/11/2020 4:28:00 PM (view original):
It would be 1-run win differential (i.e., 1-run wins minus 1-run losses). And it wouldn't shock me if a few teams below .500 teams made the playoffs in this format.
Have to consider that this could actually create an incentive for teams to lose games at the end of the season badly, intentionally. If the whole thing depended on not losing a 1-run game, why not just put out your worst team and lose by a lot?
8/11/2020 5:05 PM
Posted by schwarze on 8/11/2020 4:28:00 PM (view original):
It would be 1-run win differential (i.e., 1-run wins minus 1-run losses). And it wouldn't shock me if a few teams below .500 teams made the playoffs in this format.
If this theme league was set up, I'd enter a team (or two if allowed)
8/11/2020 5:10 PM
Posted by redcped on 8/11/2020 5:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by schwarze on 8/11/2020 4:28:00 PM (view original):
It would be 1-run win differential (i.e., 1-run wins minus 1-run losses). And it wouldn't shock me if a few teams below .500 teams made the playoffs in this format.
Have to consider that this could actually create an incentive for teams to lose games at the end of the season badly, intentionally. If the whole thing depended on not losing a 1-run game, why not just put out your worst team and lose by a lot?
Personally, having thought about this more, the strategy in this league would likely to be draft fewer high quality IP. Anytime your team is losing, make sure to throw a mop up pitcher so that the team has no chance of losing a 1 run game.
8/11/2020 5:18 PM
Posted by milest on 8/11/2020 1:32:00 PM (view original):
And I'm not sure why everyone thinks 1-run game results are just pure luck. That simply is not true. There is some luck involved, but there is luck involved in every game. If a team implements mop-up level pitchers, they will lose more 1 -run games when the mop-up comes in late, when the bullpen is depleted, as opposed to a team with quality pitchers throughout their bullpen with no drop-off/mop-up type pitchers.
There are a lot of data that show that margin of victory is a true indicator of team strength. While anything can happen in one game or a short series, over the course of a season better teams will have a higher winning percentage than weaker teams as the margin of victory increases. It's true that a particularly bad team in a division can distort this somewhat but the premise has held true over decades in real-life sports. Also, a team that significantly outperforms its expected winning percentage one year is ordinarily a good candidate to come back to earth the following season unless there are material changes in performance.

The 10 highest run differentials in real-life since 1901 are as follows:

1. 1939 Yankees +411, .702, won WS
2. 1927 Yankees +376, .714, won WS
3. 1936 Yankees +334, .667, won WS
4. 1906 Cubs +323, .763, lost WS
5. 1998 Yankees +309, .704, won WS
6. 1937 Yankees, +308, .662, won WS
7. 2001 Mariners, +300, .716, lost ALCS
8. 1942 Yankees, +294, .669, lost WS (The '42 Cards just missed this list with a +275 run differential.)
9. 1929 Athletics, +286, .693 won WS
10. 1944 Cardinals, +282, .682, won WS

The '54 Indians were at +242 with a .721 winning percentage and outperformed their Pythagorean projection by 7 wins. The '54 Yankees had exactly the same run differential but won 8 fewer games while outperforming their Pythagorean projection by only 2 wins. I wonder if the Indians had a better record in one-run games.
8/11/2020 5:40 PM
FINAL ROUND 1 STANDINGS

Overall Owner 80M 90M 110M 120M 140M Var Wins Win% Plyf WS Bonus Total
1 justinlee_24 96 98 93 92 91 103 573 0.590 6 27 600
2 06gsp 101 84 88 94 96 102 565 0.581 4 1 33 598
3 jfranco77 88 106 99 90 90 91 564 0.580 5 1 31 595
4 milest 97 99 87 82 80 105 550 0.566 3 2 43 593
5 ozomatli 90 89 84 94 102 100 559 0.575 5 1 33 592
6 mensu1954 99 90 88 86 93 106 562 0.578 4 1 29 591
7 ejstockman 85 80 92 89 95 100 541 0.557 5 2 49 590
8 schwarze 94 94 88 90 100 115 581 0.598 5 8 589
8 skunk206 92 90 95 93 101 96 567 0.583 4 22 589
10 mildnhazy 79 84 87 90 98 96 534 0.549 4 2 49 583
11 doctorcc 94 94 88 87 95 78 536 0.551 4 1 46 582
12 wink0094 95 92 93 90 73 98 541 0.557 5 1 34 575
13 discodemo 82 90 104 93 86 91 546 0.562 4 1 24 570
14 pkearns 86 93 92 95 84 94 544 0.560 4 1 25 569
15 brianjw 92 93 106 79 95 95 560 0.576 5 8 568
16 dougpalm 68 94 86 86 89 103 526 0.541 5 1 41 567
17 mjkrunner 89 102 86 97 88 91 553 0.569 3 13 566
18 tigerrott 98 83 94 87 89 94 545 0.561 4 17 562
18 thehuseman 102 81 76 91 88 100 538 0.553 3 1 24 562
20 Jtpsops 87 96 76 96 81 94 530 0.545 2 1 31 561
21 d_rock97 91 87 89 86 91 93 537 0.552 4 19 556
22 marinerrott 84 81 109 85 82 89 530 0.545 2 1 23 553
23 beauchamp 80 99 98 81 83 78 519 0.534 3 1 28 547
24 PennQuaker 92 76 86 98 90 97 539 0.555 4 7 546
24 buddhagamer 87 91 86 87 84 93 528 0.543 3 18 546
26 jbohrman 94 88 84 95 74 94 529 0.544 3 16 545
27 NebHusker 94 89 79 90 89 78 519 0.534 5 25 544
28 besterateam 86 86 74 99 83 93 521 0.536 3 22 543
29 rbow923 87 72 79 88 100 105 531 0.546 2 11 542
30 ballsweatsux 86 99 77 77 95 95 529 0.544 3 11 540
31 mpitt76 97 93 75 77 80 90 512 0.527 2 1 27 539
32 barracuda3 90 79 73 83 97 92 514 0.529 3 1 24 538
33 ledfoot 83 92 92 81 95 84 527 0.542 3 6 533
34 magicdreamer 96 85 74 88 97 82 522 0.537 3 9 531
34 redcped 80 88 89 94 82 76 509 0.524 2 1 22 531
36 hebdomad 93 89 79 93 88 81 523 0.538 5 7 530
37 jetscanes 87 87 68 91 98 92 523 0.538 3 5 528
38 Humdogs 98 96 89 99 80 57 519 0.534 3 6 525
39 teamhydro 94 89 81 88 80 82 514 0.529 2 9 523
40 cstrohmier 73 89 99 83 93 77 514 0.529 2 3 517
40 wildthings1 80 84 93 76 87 86 506 0.520 2 11 517
42 crystalao 83 92 79 86 86 89 515 0.530 3 1 516
43 dorkster 95 85 85 73 82 83 503 0.517 2 12 515
44 skinndogg 90 88 76 87 79 89 509 0.524 1 2 511
45 odalisgagne 93 84 87 86 88 68 506 0.521 2 4 510
46 bheid408 76 93 93 87 75 76 500 0.514 3 9 509
47 bottomlee 84 77 91 89 80 84 505 0.520 1 2 507
48 thunder1008 80 85 91 77 83 68 484 0.498 2 1 22 506
49 Fusion27s 77 93 85 88 78 78 499 0.513 1 2 501
50 newarkwilder 85 78 75 81 80 93 492 0.506 2 7 499
51 just4me 71 84 85 77 90 81 488 0.502 2 5 493
52 footballmm11 78 81 78 82 71 95 485 0.498 1 7 492
53 BigScungil 89 73 90 78 68 89 487 0.501 1 2 489
54 sford 93 77 86 86 79 59 480 0.494 1 6 486
55 mllama54 93 73 92 70 79 74 481 0.495 2 4 485
56 wetwillytwo 82 87 69 77 80 88 483 0.497 483
56 daddyzander 74 91 78 76 70 92 481 0.495 1 2 483
58 duhbigcat 80 78 71 99 74 70 472 0.486 2 9 481
58 Chisock 76 78 88 71 79 79 471 0.485 1 10 481
60 mickr9 87 81 83 76 64 89 480 0.494 480
61 chargingryno 86 97 73 79 69 70 474 0.488 1 4 478
62 calhoop 73 73 88 82 78 78 472 0.486 1 5 477
63 pfan 76 75 79 83 90 64 467 0.480 2 7 474
64 cubbies84 65 98 67 73 80 87 470 0.484 1 2 472
65 npg32433 81 82 78 78 72 80 471 0.485 471
66 Jdh34 88 63 74 80 87 77 469 0.483 469
67 thebubbaq 90 81 76 78 75 68 468 0.481 1 0 468
68 markeking 77 78 79 78 74 81 467 0.480 467
69 elvisgump 84 80 70 75 65 80 454 0.467 1 9 463
70 contrarian23 67 96 74 84 73 67 461 0.474 1 1 462
71 trd3 85 84 74 76 74 65 458 0.471 1 0 458
72 gorbyruss 60 68 97 73 72 81 451 0.464 2 6 457
73 midknight 71 87 82 69 74 72 455 0.468 455
74 big_dowg 77 77 69 76 75 79 453 0.466 453
75 MitchellBade 71 83 71 69 74 83 451 0.464 451
76 nordawg 76 72 73 87 82 60 450 0.463 450
77 Sonofodin52 79 75 76 76 85 57 448 0.460 2 1 449
78 loyalcanuck 60 71 88 74 65 80 438 0.451 1 8 446
79 tracyr 82 63 73 87 75 63 443 0.456 1 2 445
80 stroh23 67 48 77 78 86 80 436 0.449 436
81 DarthDurron 61 68 71 70 85 80 435 0.448 1 0 435
81 northof49 82 71 73 38 91 59 414 0.426 1 1 21 435
83 toddcommish 69 74 75 66 68 80 432 0.444 432
83 happyhours 67 78 82 76 69 60 432 0.444 432
85 cholatse 52 76 72 78 80 69 427 0.439 427
86 garmansouth 61 66 76 74 82 66 425 0.437 1 0 425
87 gigrant 76 64 83 77 61 61 422 0.434 422
88 sjh0825 77 57 82 62 51 77 406 0.418 406
89 bigsteve12 68 49 57 68 81 74 397 0.408 397
89 deathdealer 62 59 67 79 66 64 397 0.408 397
91 jschirn 53 58 61 68 73 79 392 0.403 392
92 tridentric 66 78 66 56 56 45 367 0.378 367
93 marvin_katko 69 23 66 63 68 69 358 0.368 358
94 Zachsmikle1 53 60 56 46 72 59 346 0.356 346
95 spoonfed 51 53 64 73 65 37 343 0.353 343
96 steelerfan19 45 42 32 41 36 17 213 0.219 213
8/11/2020 6:07 PM
Sucks to be eliminated by the virtue of the tie-breaker considering at one point I was up 3 games to 1 in one LCS and beginning the WS in another and in a span of 4 sessions, lost 7 consecutive games and not gain a single point.

Guess I'll settle to cheer on my son justinlee_24

Best of luck to the rest of you in the cage!
8/11/2020 7:02 PM
Schwarze post about division alignment made me come back to a question I've had since last year:

Why don't we play a more balanced schedule?

I'm not asking this to start an argument. I was just wondering. I don't really know all of the alignment & scheduling options, tbh. I was just wondering why this scheduling format was chosen over the others.
8/11/2020 8:13 PM
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