Owner Rankings, 2020 Topic

We have 96 confirmed owners, so I went ahead and calculated the owner rankings. The complex formula used is based on a combination of Past Tournament Results (more recent tournaments get more weight), Historical WIS Stats and Recency. Your ranking here is also your team ID which will be used to assign you to your league (note that it will be another week or two before league numbers are available).
4/13/2020 1:00 AM
Rank Owner________ 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 Win% Titles
1 brianjw 1 2 1 6 2 1 7 1 0.567 50
2 wildthings1 1 3 12 0.602 85
3 discodemo 5 6 4 2 3 4 5 3 15 0.590 66
4 ozomatli 45 29 9 3 1 6 0.573 148
5 skunk206 10 0.588 168
6 mjkrunner 4 0.573 10
7 milest 5 0.578 7
8 schwarze 5 14 7 5 5 3 11 9 8 5 4 27 12 4 11 2 0.551 132
9 rbow923 5 1 2 44 3 12 9 16 9 10 40 0.583 135
10 mensu1954 5 10 3 10 19 15 9 9 0.552 127
11 jbohrman 58 5 14 3 4 6 21 14 13 0.551 28
12 jfranco77 1 29 9 60 10 22 38 68 7 6 5 3 0.548 117
13 mildnhazy 4 4 30 32 13 7 12 11 1 7 17 12 5 8 8 44 0.548 18
14 dougpalm 20 3 17 15 13 65 7 16 24 0.570 158
15 hebdomad 0.594 9
16 jschirn 20 0.552 8
17 justinlee_24 16 36 7 18 32 9 8 0.539 12
18 buddhagamer 3 7 35 14 20 13 10 13 34 0.542 33
19 doctorcc 53 2 2 46 0.557 15
20 barracuda3 11 23 19 0.554 40
21 contrarian23 14 31 15 53 28 35 9 32 25 0.531 111
22 wetwillytwo 14 42 8 28 28 21 33 43 0.557 32
23 PennQuaker 23 28 2 31 12 4 39 54 35 0.559 112
24 sford 12 15 17 29 17 40 48 71 27 10 33 45 36 0.571 137
25 crystalao 29 18 20 29 3 53 6 54 0.537 11
26 redcped 46 15 7 0.540 19
27 wink0094 54 4 20 0.544 25
28 newarkwilder 64 15 10 18 19 27 42 23 26 21 39 30 55 17 48 0.533 66
29 skinndogg 39 0.554 13
30 BigScungil 14 0.533 8
31 pkearns 0.583 4
32 Fusion27s 48 41 22 12 59 29 0.530 11
33 pfan 0.577 8
34 marinerrott 49 0.556 1
35 magicdreamer 52 40 39 18 19 45 0.515 6
36 mpitt76 37 26 19 29 8 12 29 33 35 12 21 39 32 51 25 72 0.520 20
37 markeking 29 10 41 24 20 18 37 61 42 15 57 21 24 49 51 61 0.537 67
38 tigerrott 61 29 45 22 0.544 24
39 odalisgagne 38 17 39 32 50 50 45 68 23 18 0.526 70
40 cstrohmier 13 35 22 26 32 58 30 29 42 43 35 0.533 56
41 ejstockman 59 32 22 54 38 37 22 43 58 24 32 0.523 27
42 ledfoot 33 42 17 0.536 4
43 NebHusker 37 39 12 0.537 6
44 thunder1008 37 0.527 36
45 Humdogs 54 71 92 48 21 29 0.542 37
46 calhoop 41 7 33 20 24 15 16 58 25 90 24 35 68 11 54 27 0.493 66
47 d_rock97 59 0.536 31
48 mllama54 36 53 36 35 47 22 61 25 20 36 51 0.509 31
49 stroh23 35 30 57 0.519 36
50 teamhydro 0.546 36
51 besterateam 65 52 18 40 52 68 37 0.521 14
52 thehuseman 67 38 36 75 32 42 0.515 13
53 Jdh34 78 56 68 23 61 74 29 22 52 0.495 18
54 dorkster 69 0.546 34
55 gorbyruss 75 71 35 74 44 73 0.523 74
56 daddyzander 68 21 0.524 9
57 beauchamp 67 48 59 81 35 41 55 13 62 44 50 15 61 38 0.482 7
58 06gsp 0.556 20
59 tracyr 20 16 53 18 76 75 0.531 44
60 cubbies84 30 17 31 41 19 57 69 29 75 0.521 8
61 Jtpsops 83 93 46 65 52 78 47 24 55 23 0.488 12
62 jetscanes 95 44 15 67 16 89 44 33 58 0.481 6
63 footballmm11 51 39 23 61 60 72 0.510 14
64 toddcommish 38 55 80 82 47 74 80 27 40 55 0.503 10
65 bottomlee 60 0.531 13
66 sjh0825 71 37 90 46 74 0.512 45
67 ballsweatsux 59 0.523 6
68 Chisock 64 63 60 80 49 79 57 79 80 59 27 39 64 73 0.499 40
69 DarthDurron 79 73 49 80 59 42 68 68 0.507 41
70 trd3 78 47 47 66 48 56 61 64 55 0.494 19
71 bheid408 25 57 75 0.501 15
72 chargingryno 85 64 0.462 21
73 mickr9 64 0.514 5
74 Sonofodin52 61 46 0.501 12
75 bigsteve12 53 70 82 78 87 53 0.484 4
76 elvisgump 92 65 0.484 6
77 nordawg 46 74 73 80 78 61 80 0.511 25
78 just4me 88 59 47 56 93 86 46 76 77 0.454 14
79 happyhours 94 56 81 37 58 83 94 94 86 73 67 53 0.477 26
80 npg32433 86 92 87 85 37 64 0.472 1
81 thebubbaq 50 94 56 68 89 84 76 67 85 73 49 77 0.485 12
82 gigrant 77 84 80 63 87 0.497 35
83 northof49 88 0.493 21
84 midknight 74 89 58 59 0.479 13
85 duhbigcat 0.543 3
86 big_dowg 86 0.502 12
87 cholatse 91 0.505 13
88 loyalcanuck 87 67 69 0.492 7
89 deathdealer 96 94 89 71 57 0.480 4
90 marvin_katko 82 0.468 1
91 garmansouth 82 89 82 52 90 0.478 2
92 MitchellBade 0.472 0
93 tridentric 49 58 95 96 66 94 89 89 96 95 73 95 0.415 10
94 spoonfed 92 94 94 72 92 0.411 2
95 Zachsmikle1 0.417 0
96 steelerfan19 96 0.360 0
5/26/2020 6:17 PM (edited)
Our highest debut this year is from hebdomad at #14
4/13/2020 1:02 AM
Tough field this year overall. Think we're in for a competitive tournament
4/13/2020 2:27 AM
Why have I moved from 42nd to 40th after making the cage last year, and marinerrott moved from 53rd to 34th despite missing the cage in his debut? Because Dad is a BEAST! Ask anyone in ozo's TOC Advantage League and they can tell you. Fortunately, Dad is not in any league I am in.
4/14/2020 12:13 AM
I was ranked 4th going into the tournament last year. I finished 2nd overall and dropped to 7th this year.

My opinion is that ozomatli's "Recency" variable* adds too much weight to the formula. If you play in a lot of competitive theme leagues like I do (I don't do open leagues), your ranking gets dinged. If you play in a bunch of soft open leagues, you ranking improves.

*I assume Recency is the overall W-L record since the last tournament

I guess justinlee_24's Ugly & Uglier theme league probably cost me a couple of ranking spots (random draw, got stuck with a 120-loss team)
4/14/2020 5:08 PM (edited)
I went from 78 to a whopping 63...granted I think I played...one? other league since last years tourney due to the wonders of work
4/14/2020 5:27 PM
Most owners fall between 1-2% weight for Recency. You're at 1% exactly. Recency is broken down as follows and has a cap of 5% weight, max:

Since your last appearance (relative to others)...
  • Win%
  • Playoff Win%
  • Championships
  • WIS Rating Points
Compared to your lifetime averages...
  • Win%
  • Playoff Win%

In your case, wildthings1 did not play last year, and skunk206 did well in his first appearance. Since he has less tournament experience than you, his raw stats are weighted more than yours are and he scores considerably better there (second overall, behind wildthings1). You're sandwiched closely between mjkrunner and milest. They both benefitted from the same bump skunk did, though not as much since their stats are not as good as his. One thing I'll add is that it's hard to improve your score after 16+ years in the tournament — look at jfranco77. He's one of only two people to have finished in the Top 10 for the last 4 years but is still haunted by his two finishes in the 60s.

Also, to be fair, the difference between 2nd and 6th last year was 6 total points (though margin is not factored in)
4/14/2020 6:20 PM (edited)
Thanks for the explanation. jfranco's 60th place finishes shouldn't really factor in his ranking. A tournament finish of 60th in 2011 should have zero weight in 2020. Just my opinion.

For what it's worth, when I did the rankings, I had a base formula, but after it spit out the numbers, I would do an eye test, comparing last year to this year, etc. and manually tweak the formula to make the eye test "look" better (i.e., fix some of the anomalies that pop up every year). I probably didn't use the exact same formula two years in a row.
4/14/2020 6:05 PM
Yeah — I make a tweak here or there each year as well. I should think through a solution to "The jfranco77 Problem" because I agree with your sentiment there.

The problem was that the original formula used the fibonacci sequence to weigh each appearance. This worked well until a certain point where, after 15 appearances, the only one that mattered significantly became the most recent (so a bad finish last year would have devastating effects on your ranking this year). I addressed this by switching to prime numbers, but that's probably an overcorrection.
4/14/2020 6:26 PM (edited)
chargingryno is replacing fire13. I also found a bug with how the formula was treating owners who have never played before, so I updated that. Your ranking may be slightly different as a result but your league assignments remain the same
4/17/2020 5:15 PM
Posted by ozomatli on 4/14/2020 6:26:00 PM (view original):
Yeah — I make a tweak here or there each year as well. I should think through a solution to "The jfranco77 Problem" because I agree with your sentiment there.

The problem was that the original formula used the fibonacci sequence to weigh each appearance. This worked well until a certain point where, after 15 appearances, the only one that mattered significantly became the most recent (so a bad finish last year would have devastating effects on your ranking this year). I addressed this by switching to prime numbers, but that's probably an overcorrection.
Did you just say fibonacci sequence? I knew somehow some way the secret to all of this was buried in the golden ratio.
4/18/2020 7:46 AM
Posted by schwarze on 4/14/2020 5:08:00 PM (view original):
I was ranked 4th going into the tournament last year. I finished 2nd overall and dropped to 7th this year.

My opinion is that ozomatli's "Recency" variable* adds too much weight to the formula. If you play in a lot of competitive theme leagues like I do (I don't do open leagues), your ranking gets dinged. If you play in a bunch of soft open leagues, you ranking improves.

*I assume Recency is the overall W-L record since the last tournament

I guess justinlee_24's Ugly & Uglier theme league probably cost me a couple of ranking spots (random draw, got stuck with a 120-loss team)
I think winning % can be misleading also. I got most of my wins in a league about 8-12 years ago. Exact same cap, exact same parameters. I knew exactly who the cookies would be and I made the playoffs every single season. And then I took a 5 year hiatus from playing WIS baseball. Playing in multiple leagues, at different caps, with different competition, makes you more vulnerable to having losing seasons.

Theme leagues with subtle differences that you didn't pick up on while building your team can make a big difference.

4/22/2020 4:51 PM
Yeah, I wish it were possible to parse that out. I can parse out WS wins by Theme vs Open league, but that doesn't solve the problem. I try to get around it by looking at a ton of factors rather than just win%
4/22/2020 7:24 PM
Going to post some quick numbers.
4/22/2020 10:18 PM
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