BOWIS Banned Lottery Topic

Draft Lottery

https://nylottery.ny.gov/all-winning-numbers

Thursday 5-23 (All times are PM and EST)
8:00 - benhoidal
8:04 - raggedclaws
8:08 - chewy3344
8:12 - riftonapple
8:16 - Midge
8:20 - ty84moss
8:24 - dBKC
8:28 - steelers821
8:32 - samuelyork93
8:36 - Sephy13
8:40 - berkelon
8:44 - BenJoker
8:48 - uptowngbv
8:52 - 24kpyrite
8:56 - jhsukow
9:00 - dh555
9:04 - PBandJ
9:08 - beloud
9:12 - jethroeg
9:16 - kammeyer
9:20 - jamminj530
9:24 - jcred5
9:28 - M6speed
9:32 - robusk

The first 3 numbers drawn from your time slot is your score. The lowest score gets #1 and so on. Ties will be broken by whoever has the lower 4th number drawn.
5/22/2024 12:07 PM (edited)
Results

8:00 - benhoidal - 15 (22)
8:04 - raggedclaws - 16 (10)
8:08 - chewy3344 - 17 (13,15,19)
8:12 - riftonapple - 33 (18)
8:16 - Midge - 63 (29)
8:20 - ty84moss - 20 (13)
8:24 - dBKC - 33 (14)
8:28 - steelers821 - 35 (21)
8:32 - samuelyork93 - 19 (12)
8:36 - Sephy13 - 44 (24)
8:40 - berkelon - 34 (18)
8:44 - BenJoker - 41 (25)
8:48 - uptowngbv - 54 (23)
8:52 - 24kpyrite - 17 (14)
8:56 - jhsukow - 19 (11)
9:00 - dh555 - 25 (13)
9:04 - PBandJ - 31 (13)
9:08 - beloud - 21 (14)
9:12 - jethroeg - 19 (14)
9:16 - kammeyer - 26 (18)
9:20 - jamminj530 - 15 (15)
9:24 - jcred5 - 11 (11)
9:28 - M6speed - 11 (9)
9:32 - robusk - 17 (13,15,16)
5/23/2024 9:40 PM (edited)
Draft Order
1. M6speed
2. jcred5
3. jamminj530
4. benhoidal
5. raggedclaws
6. robusk
7. chewy3344
8. 24kpyrite
9. jhsukow
10. samuelyork93
11. jethroeg
12. ty84moss
13. beloud
14. dh555
15. kammeyer
16. PBandJ
17. dBKC
18. riftonapple
19. berkelon
20. steelers821
21. BenJoker
22. Sephy13
23. uptowngbv
24. Midge
5/23/2024 10:04 PM (edited)
Ben, I think I'm supposed to be in the 9:08 slot in place of cjok.
5/22/2024 10:09 AM
Posted by beloud on 5/22/2024 10:09:00 AM (view original):
Ben, I think I'm supposed to be in the 9:08 slot in place of cjok.
Yes, thanks!
5/22/2024 12:08 PM
Trying to make a draft board to make a proxy. Do you have the banned list yet?
5/22/2024 12:13 PM
Posted by samuelyork93 on 5/22/2024 12:13:00 PM (view original):
Trying to make a draft board to make a proxy. Do you have the banned list yet?
Yeah, I'll post it officially tomorrow, but it's everyone who was drafted in either of the first two leagues.
5/22/2024 12:24 PM
Since 23-24 seasons were not released for the first two leagues, I am leaning towards banning them too.
5/22/2024 7:29 PM
Either way is fine. Would just like to know soon to give some time for pre-draft planning. Can you go ahead
and post the ineligible list to? Thx
5/22/2024 8:06 PM
Will the 23-24 seasons be unavailable for Franchise and Audodraft leagues as well?
5/22/2024 8:19 PM
Posted by beloud on 5/22/2024 8:19:00 PM (view original):
Will the 23-24 seasons be unavailable for Franchise and Audodraft leagues as well?
They will be available for the last three drafts, just not this one.

Next year, I am going to switch the order we do the drafts. I'll have the 55,45, and banned end the year rather than start the year so the new seaons are available for them.
5/22/2024 9:10 PM
I think we should stick to the rules we agreed to at the start. If people feel strongly consider putting it to a vote, but I don't get why we would exclude them.
5/23/2024 12:35 PM
Posted by jcred5 on 5/23/2024 12:35:00 PM (view original):
I think we should stick to the rules we agreed to at the start. If people feel strongly consider putting it to a vote, but I don't get why we would exclude them.
I understand this perspective, and if we have to have a league vote that's fine. But I think banning 23/24 seasons is more in keeping with the spirit of the league than allowing them, even if we did mess up by failing to discuss this possibility beforehand.

It's the "banned" league, not the "banned + 23/24 rookies and guys who made a leap that year" league.
5/23/2024 12:43 PM
Posted by raggedclaws on 5/23/2024 12:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jcred5 on 5/23/2024 12:35:00 PM (view original):
I think we should stick to the rules we agreed to at the start. If people feel strongly consider putting it to a vote, but I don't get why we would exclude them.
I understand this perspective, and if we have to have a league vote that's fine. But I think banning 23/24 seasons is more in keeping with the spirit of the league than allowing them, even if we did mess up by failing to discuss this possibility beforehand.

It's the "banned" league, not the "banned + 23/24 rookies and guys who made a leap that year" league.
I think including them would still be within the spirit of the league. To me, the point of a banned league is to use players/seasons you don't usually get to see. The 23-24 players are brand new so it would still be players you usually don't see.
HOWEVER, I am still team not using them since this season is tied to seasons where they were not included.
5/23/2024 12:51 PM
Neither option is perfect, but I think banning the 23-24 players is more in the spirit of the league. You're either going to let players in who should be banned, or keep players out who should be in, but I think the risk with allowing the top rookies and new performers from 23-24 in outweighs the risk of keeping out some middling 23-24 guys who wouldn't have been drafted into the 45m or the 55m and would be theoretically drafted in this league.
5/23/2024 1:01 PM (edited)
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