Heartland Conference...Supreme Topic

lefantom13
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Trust me ! Hanover is RANK!!!
1/12/2007 12:25 PM
alblack56
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Quote: Originally Posted By oldave on 1/12/2007
the heartlands middle-tier seems to be fading fast.
at one time, 7 NT teams looked quite likely , and 8 or 9 was not impossible.
now, unless one of the middlers gets hot, it may be only 5.


That was our biggest fear. Night after night, so many deserving teams play each other. It was inevitable that some of the RPIs would drop into PIT territory.
1/12/2007 12:46 PM
commish118
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Still looking at 5 NT teams, 4 PIT Teams, and 2 others fighting to make the PIT, although it is steep climb for Manchester.
To show the strength of the conference, Manchester lost 3 in a row and my RPI improved by 4 spots.
1/12/2007 5:20 PM
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Hanover has identical records both in and out of conference to Westminster..a slightly better record vs. top 25 (and 6-2!!)..won 10 straight..#2 RPI and 3rd SOS..I mean how can you possibly justify having me 9th and Hanover not ranked (albeit 26th in voting)?? Obviously overall rating is too much of a factor..
1/12/2007 5:38 PM
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This has been a tough year for Franklin as I have 10 underclassmen. The next two years will see Franklin return to respectability. Two really good recruiting classes in a row will begin to show their worth next season. Beware the Grizzlies.
1/12/2007 6:13 PM
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IUChris, no reason to explain. You've proven you know this game. There is no doubt in anyones mind that two seasons from now you will be a force to be recond with!
That's the beauty of the Heartland. Every season one team is rebuilding, two more are at the pinnicale of their rebuilding. With the exception of Hanover and Westminster, who for whatever reason are never rebuilding and are always at the pinnicale.
1/12/2007 8:50 PM
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Transylvania and Thomas More improved their at-large chances by upsetting Defiance and Hanover, respectively.
Phil. Bibical has completed their season and is squarely on the bubble at RPI 51.
Bluffton ends the season with 2 big games..Hanover and Defiance
Anderson could make a big move if they win on the road at Westminster tonight.
Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
CONF.OVERALLTOP 25LAST
NORTHWLWLWL10STRKRPISOS
Hanover
Coach: jokeitch		113204629-1L124
#21 Defiance
Coach: lefantom13		95186026-4L13873
Bluffton
Coach: aporter		86159138-2W16433
Anderson
Coach: bigjilm		681410023-7L47425
Manchester
Coach: commish118		591014043-7L414320
Franklin
Coach: iuchris		113420021-9W126013
CONF.OVERALLTOP 25LAST
SOUTHWLWLWL10STRKRPISOS
#9 Westminster PA
Coach: spasticity		122213519-1W612
Mt. St. Joseph
Coach: doggwood14		105205215-5W21629
Philadelphia Biblica
Coach: scooterman		881511044-6W1517
Transylvania
Coach: alblack56		771212156-4W1221
Thomas More
Coach: natrap		591410134-6W1396
Waynesburg
Coach: mdmvs		4111213232-8L110515
1/13/2007 4:01 AM
spasticity
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Quote: Originally Posted By commish118 on 1/12/2007
IUChris, no reason to explain. You've proven you know this game. There is no doubt in anyones mind that two seasons from now you will be a force to be recond with!
That's the beauty of the Heartland. Every season one team is rebuilding, two more are at the pinnicale of their rebuilding. With the exception of Hanover and Westminster, who for whatever reason are never rebuilding and are always at the pinnicale.
Well I know I've had some down seasons at Westy..and you would definitely need to include Transy in that statement, seeing as they've NEVER missed the postseason..and I think only 2 of those were in the PIT.

With 6 Srs leaving after this season (including all 5 starters), we shouldn't be near as good next season..although I'm thinking I'll look to the Juco ranks a little bit this year to help balance out my classes more.
1/13/2007 4:13 AM
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"hey! how has the jokester avoided the carnage? and didja noptice...they are #2 rpi, and have won 10 games in a row in by far the toughest conference.... AND THEY ARE NOT RANKED????!!!!!111?!1?1!? " oldave
the rankings are kinda messed for The Supreme conf. westminster should be top 3, hanover followed closely behind at 4 or 5, and mt st joe should crack the top 25. I know my santa cruz team is NOT the #3 team in the nation maybe top 10 but thats pushin it
1/13/2007 4:29 PM
all2matt
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hey allblack will they still give you an invite to the natl tourny if u finish with a .500 or so record? do they base the selections that closely to the RPI or do you think u might snubbed to PIT land? this is only my 4th season in HD so I havent had a chance to make an accurate judgement of what it take to make the tournys, all I know is schedule hard (top 30) and win 20+ games and u got a shot.
1/13/2007 4:35 PM
alblack56
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Quote: Originally Posted By all2matt on 1/13/2007
hey allblack will they still give you an invite to the natl tourny if u finish with a .500 or so record? do they base the selections that closely to the RPI or do you think u might snubbed to PIT land?
I'm not sure, matt. Right now my RPI is 22. I think that would get me in with a .500 record. But if my RPI slips to into the 40's, I think I'll be overlooked.
I've seen losing teams get PIT invitations, but not to the Dance
1/13/2007 10:31 PM
oldave
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al, you ought to try to lose tonite and then you would likely finish with a losing record unless you win the CT (and you should try not to wint he CT, either)
that way we can see if a losing record can get into the dance!
1/14/2007 4:32 PM
alblack56
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NORTHWLWLWL10STRKRPISOS
Hanover
Coach: jokeitch		133224629-1W223
#24 Defiance
Coach: lefantom13		106197026-4W15685
Bluffton
Coach: aporter		971610237-3L15422
Anderson
Coach: bigjilm		791511033-7W16714
Manchester
Coach: commish118		6101115044-6L113611
Franklin
Coach: iuchris		115422031-9L22556
CONF.OVERALLTOP 25LAST
SOUTHWLWLWL10STRKRPISOS
#13 Westminster PA
Coach: spasticity		133224518-2L112
Mt. St. Joseph
Coach: doggwood14		115215216-4W32154
Philadelphia Biblica
Coach: scooterman		881511044-6W1588
Transylvania
Coach: alblack56		881313156-4W1241
Thomas More
Coach: natrap		5111412134-6L2695
Waynesburg
Coach: mdmvs		5111313333-7W1869
1/15/2007 12:26 PM
alblack56
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This should be quite a tournament. There are a number of unanswered questions.
1) Will Transylvania get an at-large bid with their .500 record?
2) Defiance, Bluffton, and Phil. Biblical...with RPI's in the 50's, considering the toughness of the conference, be enough to get them in the tournament?
3) Will Heartland be the 1st conference to place 9 teams in post-season play?
Bracket:
Hanover meets the winner of Transylvania-Manchester
Mt. St. Joseph plays the winner of Bluffton-Waynesburg
Westminster faces the winner of Anderson-Thomas More
Defiance meets the winner of Philadelphia Biblical-Franklin
1/15/2007 12:32 PM
alblack56
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A day of upsets. Only one higher seed won. It seems likely that Heartland will place 10 (!) teams in post-season play
Manchester defeated Transylvania; Franklin knocked off Phil. Biblical; and Waynesburg beat Bluffton. Anderson, however, escaped with a win over Thomas More.
Waynesburg's win, coupled with Bluffton's loss, should secure PIT bids for both squads. Philadelphia Biblical and Thomas More should join them. Anderson, too, unless they win the CT.
Transylvania is now 13-14, but is listed as a 'lock' for the tournament. Hanover, Mt. St. Joseph, and Westminster are locks as well. Defiance may go either way.
TONIGHT:
Defiance's at-large bid may hinge on defeating Franklin. It would've helped more, though, if they were playing Phil. Biblical.
Westminster plays Anderson.
Mt. St. Joseph gets Waynesburg
Hanover meets hated Hoosier State rival Manchester.
1/16/2007 3:57 AM
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