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2/11/2008 11:42 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By crazystengel on 2/12/2008No offense, guys, but why don't we let Jesus speak for Himself? As I understand it, all you need to do to get posting privileges here is buy one team. If even half the stuff Jesus supposedly did in the Bible is true, then that should be no problem for Him
Thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God!
2/11/2008 11:52 PM
I'm surprised ooohddooooooogie isn't in on this. I figured he would of copied and pasted the New Testament by now.
2/12/2008 1:33 AM
You know, I have to admit that you guys have me at a loss.

I have no idea how you are defining "liberal" to fit some of the arguments that you are making.

The liberals i know are complex people who understand much and doubt themselves much, and are often financially conservative while being socially progressive. We might be ambivalent about abortion, anti-gun control, against government interference in private matters, yet eager to work for social justice.

I don't condone sin -- yours or mine -- but I am capable of forgiving it. I still believe that two wrongs don't make a right.

If you don't recognize corporate fascism when its actions are evident, that is your problem, not mine.

I thought the lessons of error of the last eight years were more obvious than apparently they are.

Sleep well, gentlemen.
2/12/2008 1:43 AM
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2/12/2008 1:58 AM
Happy are those who know they are spiritually poor...
Happy are those who mourn; God will comfort them...
Happy are those who are humble...
Happy are those whose greatest desire is to do what God requires...
Happy are those who are merciful...
Happy are the pure in heart...
Happy are those who work for peace...
Happy are those who are persecuted because they do what God requires...

Hmmm. It seems that the big question here is figuring out what God requires, especially given all of the contradictions and more than 30,000 documented translation errors in the Holy Bible.

Not to mention all of those rich people trying to squeeze into heaven through the eye of a needle. (I even worry whether my modest wealth will keep me from squeezing through.)
2/12/2008 7:56 AM
Quote: Originally posted by boogerlips on 2/12/2008The second greatest gift (the first being salvation) is Jesus letting Christians be a part of His plan. Jesus will speak for Himself in due time. I pray that time comes none too quickly.

I have no dog in this fight, being an atheist, but I do find it really funny that someone with the name "boogerlips" is preaching so seriously.

Ah, the joys of the innernets.
2/12/2008 8:52 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By doubletruck on 2/12/2008You know, I have to admit that you guys have me at a loss.

I have no idea how you are defining "liberal" to fit some of the arguments that you are making.

The liberals i know are complex people who understand much and doubt themselves much, and are often financially conservative while being socially progressive. We might be ambivalent about abortion, anti-gun control, against government interference in private matters, yet eager to work for social justice.

I don't condone sin -- yours or mine -- but I am capable of forgiving it. I still believe that two wrongs don't make a right.

If you don't recognize corporate fascism when its actions are evident, that is your problem, not mine.

I thought the lessons of error of the last eight years were more obvious than apparently they are.

Sleep well, gentlemen
The deal with corporations is their mission is to generate a profit. There is no morality in that. A company can act ethically sure but money is survival for them. This can lead to excessive greed or to being a responsible contributor to the economy. We can change the fortunes of the greedy by not buying their product, or using their service. How many people quit a job because of how they treated their people or acted unethically. I a comapny that went bankrupt shortly after I . Poor management and treated people like ^%&. Social progressiveness is dangerous. It leads to socialism;

the Progressive agenda — includes well-spun catch phrases that translate into socialist policies, unfettered abortion, open borders, affirmative action on methamphetamine, economy-stultifying environmentalist zealotry, and more pliant, radical Cynthia McKinney and Charlie Rangel types in Congress.

Their president, Gloria Totten, "has worked for progressive causes and political campaigns for over 17 years and is considered one of the top political organizers in the country" She was once Political Director for NARAL (The National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League), has worked on or managed "more than 75 federal campaigns," is heavily involved in Wellstone Action, serves on the Board of Directors for TrueMajority, and is also President of the Board of the Ballot Initiative Strategy Center — all far- political advocacy outfits.

When you cut through Progressive Majority's Coke commercial website and the altruistic claptrap, what you have is an organization dedicated to the stealth placement of "acceptable" candidates throughout a sleeping citizenry — at every level of government.

The most concerning (and convicting) of Progressive Majority's promises is that of helping candidates "become effective leaders once elected," essentially confirming said candidates as their agents. These candidates of course generally disavow any significant entanglement or identification with the organization, citing the "plausible deniability" of 527-like tax-exempt advocacy groups and PACs.

Americans need to recognize what a dangerous precedent this is, and what politics has become in America. Turning over local government to operatives for national lobbyists — of any political stripe — poses the spectre of a government in which the individual's vote is effectively nullified. According to Progressive Majority's stated mission, Americans from local to national levels will be governed by agenda-driven lobbyists in Washington, D.C. rather than locally concerned members of their communities.


2/12/2008 8:53 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By metallicafan on 2/12/2008
Quote: Originally posted by boogerlips on 2/12/2008 The second greatest gift (the first being salvation) is Jesus letting Christians be a part of His plan. Jesus will speak for Himself in due time. I pray that time comes none too quickly.

I have no dog in this fight, being an atheist, but I do find it really funny that someone with the name "boogerlips" is preaching so seriously.

Ah, the joys of the innernets
Good for him. I pray some day you come around.
2/12/2008 9:14 AM
I have never seen ashel1 post seriously about anything...I keep waiting for a punch line...Frightening!
2/12/2008 10:07 AM

No copy and paste on this subject. Hopefully this will be helpful to post my question in this thread.

Are there two Americas?

That is what surprises me concerning sincere individuals who want the best for others?
When I watched coverage of the Democratic Debate in South Carolina I was surprised how certain people seemed that the fix is in against so many people.
Similar talk has been voiced regarding how Hurricane Katrina was handled in New Orleans.
The conservative argument would be that Louisiana and New Orleans government was ineffective and/or corrupt.
I hope people in public service sincerely want to do things right.
Do women really get paid less for exactly the same job and same hours?
If this does happen, how do employers get away with it?


2/12/2008 10:17 AM
Quote: Originally posted by ashel1 on 2/12/2008
Good for him. I pray some day you come around.

If you're into praying, there are much more important things to spend your energy on.
2/12/2008 10:46 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By metallicafan on 2/12/2008
Quote: Originally posted by ashel1 on 2/12/2008
Good for him. I pray some day you come around.

If you're into praying, there are much more important things to spend your energy on.
Praising, thanking, eating, Simming....
2/12/2008 10:48 AM
Quote: Originally posted by ashel1 on 2/12/2008Praising, thanking, eating, Simming....

Should be first on the list.... at least the way my teams are playing! :)
2/12/2008 10:51 AM
...all the hot button political issue polarizing crap just turns off voters like myself for whom ideology isn't at all important...
...after mrs kucinich's and mrs thompson's husbands dropped out of the race, i pretty much felt like i don't have any real choice and i'd hate to feel like i have to vote for mrs obama's husband just because he has the only nice looking woman ...if mccain doesn't at least select alaska's governor as his running mate, this is going to be a pretty dull election for me...
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