Quote: Originally Posted By steve9781 on 10/19/2009
I personally think the fielding sucks, and the update makes it worse. Here's my opinion......
1. Game looks at fielding in the wrong way. To do it you need to look at all players vs there own era. Figure out who the great / average / and poor fielders are and continue to use the A,B,C,D rating method. After that comparing fielders over different generations becomes easy. I don't care what era O.Smith plays in he would still be great. A C fielder would make most average plays.
2. What pitcher is on the mound should make 0 difference.
3. Range should be used more for + & - plays. You should see more +/- plays in a game then errors. Not the other way around.
4. You should be penalized for playing players at secondary positions. If T.Phillips spent most of the year in OF, then that's where he needs to play MOST of the time. If he played 20 games at 2b, then the more games over 20 he plays then his fielding starts to decrease. You don't get to go back and change history. If he was sooo amazing at 2B his real life team would have played him there more
5. Most of all, STOP THE ERRORS! As long as no one out there is a D fielder they shouldn't be booting the ball around every game. I have a C.Figgins a C fielder, he's made 3 errors in 6 games. That's a joke. He's on pace for 81 errors!!!! Love to see what a D fielder would do!
One other change I would make is set the innings requirement at 1450, and force teams to draft mediocre pitching. Force teams to have a min of a 4 man rotation. It's amazing to me how many players are just unuseable in the sim. No more cookies!!! Players of the same ilk are priced similar. Let's open up the database!
Just my opinion
How can you talk about opening up the database in the same paragraph in which you advocate going to mandatory 4-man rotations? That would make the pitchers from 1/3 of the seasons in the database virtually unusable due to the fact that they pitched in <4-man rotations and have way too many innings for that... And how exactly do you want to get rid of cookies? You have a plan for that?
With regards to #4, absolutely untrue. Alex Rodriguez is playing 3B now; does that mean he can't play SS? No, he was a pretty solid defensive SS. Actually statistically better than Jeter... I think the 20-game level is pretty good; if you played a guy at a position that many times in a season you were probably pretty confident he knew how to play it decently.
On #5, I can only say that when you look at the performance history the old felding system had guys generally coming well within the anticipated standard deviation of their RL fielding % based on the number of opportunities they had. Under the new system you have to anticipate guys from good fielding seasons doing somewhat worse than that, while guys from poor fielding seasons will improve on their RL numbers. But the amount of errors is certainly reasonable. Lots of people have always seemed to like to complain about them, but it almost always comes out right in the end.