I like a-b's suggestion that everyone would have to run fb/fcp.

I also think some of the other suggestions (all guards, all bigs, etc) would be interesting and fun to match up against each other. Personally, wouldn't be that keen on the "can only recruit from one state" type of stuff.

Having been in a couple conferences formed to try and get a bunch of top coaches together, I do think it works best if you choose a conference where the teams are a bit more geographically spread out. If you're putting strict limitations on roster makeup, having 12 guys fighting for that same narrowly defined group of players would be way too much imo.

Posted by uconnut on 8/12/2010 1:07:00 PM (view original):
look at his actual games:  In most of them he has an ATH+REB advantage.  Isn't it athleticism and rebounding?

Rebounding is far-and-away the big one, ath contributes.

Yeah take the rebounding numbers with a grain of salt, cause it is against a 228 SOS.

Okay, getting back to the original thread: Someone must only recruit guys with porn names.  Example (from Tark d3 recruiting pool): Jeffrey Kummer.

Posted by girt25 on 8/12/2010 1:30:00 PM (view original):
I like a-b's suggestion that everyone would have to run fb/fcp.

I also think some of the other suggestions (all guards, all bigs, etc) would be interesting and fun to match up against each other. Personally, wouldn't be that keen on the "can only recruit from one state" type of stuff.

Having been in a couple conferences formed to try and get a bunch of top coaches together, I do think it works best if you choose a conference where the teams are a bit more geographically spread out. If you're putting strict limitations on roster makeup, having 12 guys fighting for that same narrowly defined group of players would be way too much imo.

Agreed. 12 teams trying to fight over all the guards in one region probably wouldn't be so fun. Quite a few teams would end up with mostly walkons i'm guessing. Maybe it could be organized so that some teams have all guards and others all centers, etc... That would be kinda cool.

take that d2 conference that's all across North America-- as a bonus for weirdness, it includes both Alaska schools...

One division all bigs, the other all guards?  Or if you want a LITTLE more flexibility, allow both to have SF's.

Posted by wronoj on 8/12/2010 1:57:00 PM (view original):
take that d2 conference that's all across North America-- as a bonus for weirdness, it includes both Alaska schools...

I'd try for Alaska Anchorage if there were no objections.

OK, let's do this in Phelan D3 when it rolls around in a few weeks, I will probably just create another ID since I have a pretty legit D3 dynasty.

Names-wise, I thought of this: the coach must recruit people whose first name and last name start with the same letter.

Also, coach must recruit someone who comes from a Private/Religious affiliated HS. This would be awesome because you'd have to go through and look at everyone's HS, and possibly google it to see if it fits. 

Posted by pinkeye on 8/12/2010 1:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by uconnut on 8/12/2010 1:07:00 PM (view original):
look at his actual games:  In most of them he has an ATH+REB advantage.  Isn't it athleticism and rebounding?

also IQ and shooting %, but who needs facts?

As long as I'm getting called out for facts, I doubt very seriously he has a reb advantage.

He starts two guys with 1 reb.  He only has five guys on his team over 15, and no one over 49. 

I'm not going through all the games, but there's no way he has a reb advantage in "most."

If you're talking about ath+reb, like actually adding them, then that's stupid, in my opinion.  It should clearly favor reb.  Uber-athletic guards should be better rebounders than non-athletic guards, of course, but they're not going to be better than unathletic big men who have decent rebounding fundamentals.  Then again, I think that's the whole point, that ath plays too big of a role in rebounding.

I was hoping for d2.  if it's d3 i probably won't do it.

I'd also prefer D2, maybe we all start in the same D3 conference, get a year under our belt and practice recruiting/'building a team' with weird requirements, and then all move up to the same (the most empty) D2 conference (you can move up with 1 season under your belt still right?).

I'd like in for this as well

Posted by ike1024 on 8/12/2010 4:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by pinkeye on 8/12/2010 1:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by uconnut on 8/12/2010 1:07:00 PM (view original):
look at his actual games:  In most of them he has an ATH+REB advantage.  Isn't it athleticism and rebounding?

also IQ and shooting %, but who needs facts?

As long as I'm getting called out for facts, I doubt very seriously he has a reb advantage.

He starts two guys with 1 reb.  He only has five guys on his team over 15, and no one over 49. 

I'm not going through all the games, but there's no way he has a reb advantage in "most."

If you're talking about ath+reb, like actually adding them, then that's stupid, in my opinion.  It should clearly favor reb.  Uber-athletic guards should be better rebounders than non-athletic guards, of course, but they're not going to be better than unathletic big men who have decent rebounding fundamentals.  Then again, I think that's the whole point, that ath plays too big of a role in rebounding.

My case? I'm looking through the stats and then the games, and I personally go for the fouls:  He was causing nearly thirty a game. .and in allot of those games where he had a heavy rebounding advantage, the post players on the opposing team  got in foul trouble early.  The best rebounder in the world is no good when sitting on the bench.

OK, so I don't think we'll be able to populate an entire conference right away. At first glance, it looks like in Phelan we could find a few conferences in D3 which have only 1 human coached team and a few conference in D2 which have only two human coach teams. So, we'll probably need 10 participants (myself + 9) and therefore 10 different "rules"; one assigned to each coach.

Can only recruit from one designated state. (I think this state should probably not be their home state and should be about 100 recruits deep and preferably pretty far away—maybe Michigan?)

Can only recruit foreign born players. (We could turn this into players outside of the continental US if we wanted HI and AK to be included, I’m pretty unsold on it)

Can only recruit SGs. (It is my feeling that it might be ‘too easy’ if someone got SF here, so I think SG and PF are the two positions that should fill an entire team—you can get versatile ones for sure.)

Can only recruit PFs. (See above)

Must have all starters average over 35 minutes per game (actually, we could make this 37 or 38 minutes, basically everyone must play only 1 deep at all positions—lots of slowdown + high stamina guys needed!).

Must set EVERYONE to +2 (would this be more fun with +2 or -2? I feel like it’d be too easy on +2, I mean you could just set your distro to only guards and recruit role playing big men to rebound, anyone think this is too easy?)

Must recruit only players below a 15 durability: I did some research on this one, it looks like only about 30 or 40 players from each recruit generation will meet this criteria (obviously, he has to practice conditioning, so durability will increase—but each recruit must start with 15 or below). So, he’ll have a small player pool (although that player pool will likely be diverse and possibly even talented) AND it’ll be likely that a bunch of his guys get hurt! (or, as ‘likely’ as that can be, as durability starts to matter more.)

Coach must not practice any O or D (really unsure how big of a deal this is, I feel like in the old engine people used to say that they’d randomly play a different D than that practiced and it worked fine, that’s not that case though anymore, right?).

All FT shooters must be an F (Stone Fs, they could start at a D- but you’d have to practice no FT shooting and not play them until they reached F).

Everyone’s first name and last name must start with the same letter (Self-explanatory; lots of Larry Landers from Sidney, Nebraska! [on all 5 of my teams, Larry Lander is the only player that meets this criteria!])

These are my favorite 10. Does anyone think any of these things are too easy or too hard?