OR - still no chance you will crack on what you mean by figuring out the equation with sims?   :)

Lots of interesting stuff here. Wish I would have paid more attention in stats class. Not sure I buy the 2* for a full grade theory. It think it is closer to 25% per 1/3 of a letter grade but have not analyzed it for some time. Also think that A+ schools can skew the data because I think the A+ range is larger than the other letter grades.

Posted by grecianfox on 2/4/2011 2:05:00 PM (view original):
Lots of interesting stuff here. Wish I would have paid more attention in stats class. Not sure I buy the 2* for a full grade theory. It think it is closer to 25% per 1/3 of a letter grade but have not analyzed it for some time. Also think that A+ schools can skew the data because I think the A+ range is larger than the other letter grades.

i think a+ is larger too

Nerd Alert in this thread, lol.

Posted by kmasonbx on 2/4/2011 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Nerd Alert in this thread, lol.

and im sure you loved every minute of it ;)

as someone who is typically considered pretty damn smart, this thread makes my head hurt...

Posted by gillispie on 2/4/2011 2:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by kmasonbx on 2/4/2011 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Nerd Alert in this thread, lol.

and im sure you loved every minute of it ;)

I can neither confirm or deny these allegations that I'm a nerd at heart.

Ok... let me bounce an idea off of you guys.  What if you are going about this relative concept entirely wrong?  We've seen instances where the engine stats that 'such and such" is worth X amount of effort.  So think of it like your Visit is worth X% of full value.  Then assume that A+ = 100% value.  Any lower grade would simple be worth Visit x Effort Value.  I've made a quick chart that represents my idea.  I've also spun it around to show the relationship to $50,000 in effort from an A+ school.  I don't know if this is the exact method, but it does his A+ to B+ @ 1.7 and would account for more intense swings at a lower level.  If the argument is that the lower prestige offers less variance, that can also be adjusted for.

Grade	% Value	@ $50k	% Vs. A+	Factor vs. A+
A+	100%	$50,000	100%	1.00
A	85%	$42,500	118%	1.18
A-	71%	$35,625	140%	1.40
B+	59%	$29,375	170%	1.70
B	48%	$23,750	211%	2.11
B-	38%	$18,750	267%	2.67
C+	29%	$14,375	348%	3.48
C	21%	$10,625	471%	4.71
C-	15%	$  7,500	667%	6.67
D+	10%	$  5,000	1000%	10.00
D	6%	$  3,125	1600%	16.00
D-	4%	$  1,875	2667%	26.67

Ive never done any mathmatics to figure it out nor do I even know how to but I think in d2 its 1x the effort for a A prestige to a B prestige.

So you're saying they are the same?

nah that if an a prestige offers a hv then a b prestige must offer 2 to be equal

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1/31/2011 campus visit $807
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1/31/2011 letters - (8) $120
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1/31/2011 campus visit $807
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Coach at UGA, with B prestige in Gill's discussion

Posted by brip87 on 2/4/2011 9:28:00 PM (view original):
nah that if an a prestige offers a hv then a b prestige must offer 2 to be equal

Well, that would be 2x the effort, but it's not that large a difference at DII/DIII.