I'm not so sure Marshall was the best human coached team in the conference either...seems we split with them and had a lot less talent...

Posted by dacj501 on 4/8/2011 1:54:00 PM (view original):
I'm not so sure Marshall was the best human coached team in the conference either...seems we split with them and had a lot less talent...

A lot less talent? You were 650 w. out the two walk-ons, just a couple points below us. But hey, if you wanna hang your hat on one lucky game, be my guest. Somehow I don't think you'd trade seasons with us. As a Cuse fan, I can understand that you'd wanna rely on moral victories ...

Wow..Nice to know we can score we the rest of the conference! lol...jk

 But hey, if you wanna hang your hat on one lucky game, be my guest. 

yeah, I thought you guys got lucky in that rematch too...

Season #1 C-USA Makeover

Prestige movement:
                Beginning   1st yr    2nd

Tulane         C+  stays   C+      C          8 teams went down in Prestige somehow.
C. Florida    C+  down   C        C-      
Memphis     C    down   C        C-         Marshall went up 2 grades
E. Carolina  C    down   C-       D+
Rice              C    down   C-       D+        S. Miss and Houston managed to stay the same
Marshall       D+    up      C-       C+
S. Miss.        D+   stays   D+      D+
UAB              D+   stays   D+       D
Houston       D     stays   D         D
UTEP            D     stays   D         D-
Tulsa            D     stays   D         D-
SMU              D-      up     D+       D

Slightly misleading numbers as we had 2 programs gain ... and 4 drop one notch.
But It looks like the overall team averages for C-USA came up about 20 pts.
Hopefully we will see a reversal of this trend next season, and then some real progress the season after.

some numbers that may not mean anything to anyone else but me, but just a barometer / point of reference of Rupp DI Conferences right now.

                           W  -   L                    Total   RPI
#1 SEC -  full  215 - 146         480+274 =   754     (7 ranked teams)
 2  B-12 -   4    195 - 153         502+540 = 1042
 3  P-10 -   3    207 - 151         645+399 = 1044
 4  B-10 -   3    194 - 153         646+459 = 1105
 5  B-East  2    190 - 157         608+679 = 1287
 6 ACC  -    4    186 - 165         731+587 = 1318

 7th   A-10  6 openings   186-161  683+795 = 1478

16th  C-USA  (3 openings, 0 openings now)   160 - 174      1217+1111 = 2328 total (obviously we have a ways to climb), however, The SEC is the only full conference besides us in Rupp. Since we landed in Rupp, barring some unforseen disaster, I would predict that in 3-4 seasons we will compete with the Big-6, and if we can keep the conference together and filled, I predict in a few more we become their worst nightmare

Beginning of Season #2

	Name	Year	Pos	School	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
1.	Justin Stout	Sr.	SF	Memphis	81	82	32	73	22	52	97	68	55	81	98	95	B-	836
2.	Brian Caldwell	Sr.	SF	Tulane	72	74	76	59	52	46	63	71	54	66	81	64	B-	778
3.	Robert Boler	Sr.	SF	Central Florida	93	60	64	94	38	62	85	58	73	40	76	34	C+	777
4.	Casey Hall	Sr.	PG	Marshall	77	86	26	88	13	36	64	65	87	93	96	44	B	775
5.	Joshua Cardona	Jr.	PF	S. Mississippi	74	33	78	83	74	89	39	36	41	57	75	81	C	760
6.	Charles Morgan	So.	PF	E. Carolina	83	44	76	80	63	76	1	42	52	75	75	74	B-	741
7.	Vincent McGugin	So.	PF	Rice	74	33	85	70	83	52	38	45	53	59	82	64	C	738
8.	Randy Archer	Sr.	C	Marshall	63	34	99	77	86	82	20	18	19	87	81	69	A-	735
9.	John Fleming	Sr.	SF	S. Mississippi	61	67	38	74	37	62	59	56	40	84	86	59	B-	723
10.	Victor Burns	Sr.	SG	Tulane	79	71	6	95	12	1	70	91	90	67	80	61	B-	723
11.	Nicholas Washington	Jr.	PF	SMU	58	55	49	74	49	91	34	30	50	81	87	62	C	720
12.	Dennis Lamy	Jr.	SF	Houston	66	57	53	74	26	68	65	34	62	78	76	55	B+	714
13.	Ray Morowski	Jr.	PG	Tulsa	63	76	20	68	11	0	68	86	74	71	82	94	A-	713
14.	Patrick Sims	So.	SF	Marshall	83	60	38	82	13	47	58	50	60	86	72	61	B	710
15.	Christopher Christen	Jr.	PF	E. Carolina	31	52	98	38	77	79	40	21	38	74	82	76	B+	706
16.	Edward Lyon	Sr.	SG	S. Mississippi	54	58	37	61	30	69	58	63	57	71	74	74	B	706
17.	David Sandford	Sr.	SG	UTEP	43	68	29	41	11	56	84	60	71	61	83	97	B-	704
18.	Blake Pou	Jr.	PF	Memphis	62	36	65	52	61	40	8	49	53	89	87	98	B	700
19.	Christopher Driscoll	Sr.	PG	Houston	89	71	17	99	10	28	52	62	49	73	84	65	A-	699
20.	James Drew	Jr.	SF	Houston	59	61	38	60	30	71	49	66	49	66	66	79	B-	694
21.	Danny Borland	Sr.	C	S. Mississippi	49	53	74	83	54	69	5	27	54	73	67	81	B-	689
22.	Dean Hale	Jr.	C	Memphis	52	40	91	61	72	78	30	11	35	75	66	77	B	688
23.	Roger Sewell	Jr.	PF	S. Mississippi	48	38	79	46	51	74	43	48	30	85	86	59	C+	687
24.	Larry Sutherland	Sr.	PG	Rice	29	99	3	25	2	11	99	95	88	73	85	73	B-	682
25.	Michael Stephens	Sr.	PG	Central Florida	57	79	14	68	13	19	49	99	74	74	83	48	B-	677

Division I Recruiting Class Rankings By Conference

1. SEC: 41 recruits, 853 points
2. Big 12: 43 recruits, 772 points
3. Big East: 37 recruits, 735 points
4. Big Ten: 41 recruits, 716 points
5. ACC: 38 recruits, 715 points
6. PAC 10: 41 recruits, 673 points
7. Atlantic 10: 39 recruits, 645 points
8. Conference USA: 41 recruits, 642 points In our second seasons, we finished 8th behind only the BCS conference and the A-10 -- with significantly worse prestige than those ahead of us.

Once that prestige goes up a little ... watch out, BCS.

I can guarantee that if things stay the way they are now, CUSA will pass the A10 (and probably some of the weaker Big 6 conferences)very soon  for the simple reason that every team will be human coached. The A10 is already better than the ACC this year, and thats with only 6 human coaches, and 3 of them still building their programs (less than 4 years at their current school). D1 Rupp is a pretty empty world for humans, and the CUSA is a good conference for a group to pick. Most decent human coaches can take a midmajor and have some success with it,  and all of you guys are better than decent. Having the postseason cash that comes with competence and/or a good baseline prestige is just a perk. As far as I'm concerned, good luck guys, I wish you the best. However, I'd rather play with a conference full of humans than one half full of sims any day.

	Marshall	Girt25	0-0	7-3	4-2	3-1	0-0	7-3	W2	56
	Memphis	oldwarrior	0-0	7-3	5-2	2-1	0-0	7-3	W3	113	165
	E. Carolina	zags27	0-0	6-4	1-2	5-2	0-0	6-4	L1	179	281
	Central Florida	dacj501	0-0	4-6	1-1	3-5	0-0	4-6	W1	242	293
	S. Mississippi	Weena	0-0	4-6	2-3	2-3	0-1	4-6	L2	234	219
	UAB	options	0-0	2-8	0-1	2-7	0-0	2-8	L3	241	188

	School	Coach	Conf. W-L	Overall W-L	Home W-L	Road W-L	Top 25 W-L	Last 10	STRK	RPI	SOS
	Marshall	girt25	13-3	23-6	12-2	8-4	0-0	9-1	W4	45	115
	S. Mississippi	Weena	10-6	14-13	8-5	6-7	0-1	6-4	L1	166	188
	UAB	options	9-7	13-16	6-3	5-12	0-0	8-2	L1	145	142
	Memphis	oldwarrior	8-8	17-12	11-4	4-7	0-0	5-5	L1	168	246
	E. Carolina	zags27	7-9	14-14	5-6	8-7	0-0	6-4	L1	150	168
	Central Florida	dacj501	7-9	14-16	4-6	7-9	0-0	4-6	L1	172	181

You know, the Ivy ain't bad either.....we only have 1/2 humans but we got 3 in the dance this year.

Prestige movement:
                Beginning   1st yr    2nd

Tulane         C+  stays   C+      C          8 teams went down in Prestige somehow.
C. Florida    C+  down   C        C-      
Memphis     C    down   C        C-         Marshall went up 2 grades
E. Carolina  C    down   C-       D+
Rice              C    down   C-       D+        S. Miss and Houston managed to stay the same
Marshall       D+    up      C-       C+
S. Miss.        D+   stays   D+      D+
UAB              D+   stays   D+       D
Houston       D     stays   D         D
UTEP            D     stays   D         D-
Tulsa            D     stays   D         D-
SMU              D-      up     D+       D

I can't imagine this isn't the bottom. 9 teams are worse than when we got here, prestige-wise.

if you think this is the bottom, just wait till next season, when tulsa hits an all new F-- prestige!