If you put recruiting money on recruits wit no intention of signing them, just to mess with another user, that is against our fair-play agreement, and you may find yourself banned.  We will review case by case and sometimes may issue a warning, but other times may end up banning the user.

The user you are griefing paid to play the game and no matter how much you don't like them, messing with the game they paid to play is not acceptable.  With GD, ruining just one recruiting class can sometimes end the game for the user.

With all the improvements we would like to make to GD to make the game better, I find it ridiculous that I have to spend time addressing this issue.  We are looking at putting out another smaller update in the next month or so and we will most likely add a limit as to the level of recruits you can go after, which might affect some people that legitimately drop down to find recruits, but we have to do this to prevent people from higher divisions ruining the game for other users.  Sorry it's come to this point, but you can blame the people that thought it would be fun to ruin another person's game.

In real life, FBS (D1A) schools are allowed 56 official campus visits, one per recruit.  Any limitations along those lines that are incorporated into this game would probably be more realistic and more fair.

Who knew it had a name?  Did you just make the term "griefing" up, Norbert?

I agree with norbert.

If you ban FBS schools from dropping down to the FCS altogether you will make it very, very hard for non-BCS teams to fill out their rosters with non-sim AI players and you will hurt some of the non-elite FBS teams that sometimes can dip down to FCS to scoop up a pretty good recruit.  I understand the problem, but I hope the fix doesn't drive people away from the non-BCS schools.

I think he was talking more about I-AA going after D-II players.

Posted by stingray002 on 2/8/2012 3:11:00 PM (view original):
I think he was talking more about I-AA going after D-II players.

+1

People do that?

Posted by tangocbear on 2/8/2012 3:19:00 PM (view original):
People do that?

Beware this mindset.  There is considerable overlap of D-IA and D-II at the K/P positions, so yes... people do that.  Moreover, for some first-year BCS coaches competing in a bloodbath recruiting environment, you could occasionally find some high-level D-II linemen that are worth the cheap price.  This is even more true for non-BCS schools.

Just to be clear - if you are legitimately going after a recruit with the intent to sign them, have at it.  Competition for recruits is supposed to happen.  The problems come when someone is recruiting a player just to mess with another team's recruiting with no intentions of ever signing the player.

Until we change recruiting to not allow for this or to account for schools that probably won't sign them, the game will allow you to do this.  Just because you can do it, doesn't make it right.  It is NOT part of the game to try to drain another team's recruiting money by messing with their recruits.  It is NOT a strategy built in to the game, so don't think you are "just playing the game".  This does fall under out Fair-Play Agreement and can result in being banned, so please take this seriously.  You can still play nice and still play competitively, so please don't do this.

I'm pretty sure I'm just fine here, but let me make sure.  If I have a class of 15 I will generally aim for 20 greens.  I know one or two are going to picked off, but I don't know which one or two.  I recruit knowing full well I won't sign, all 20, but I am not attempting to harm anyone's recruiting class by doing so (though its likely I am as someone may have recruited them if they were undecided, but didn't want to fight me so went for a less good undecided instead).  Thoughts?

topofthewol/alykaramazov

aly, I see nothing wrong with that. why?

1. Because it is in the spirit of fair play and competitiveness. 
2. Because you are not intentionally harming another coach, especially one in particular, or one at a lower level.
3. Because lots of times, I believe you are recruiting guys who would be usable on your team, not just D2 players you give an ST to in order royally screw another coach. At least I assume you don't.

Those are kind of the same, but #1 is the biggie. Don't follow only the letter of the law, but the spirit as well.

I think it will be pretty clear to all when there is a true violation.  Norbert is responding to a particular incident that was mentioned in a couple of other posts.

caesari is right on the mark though, stay in the spirit of fair play as most do and there won't be a problem.

Posted by caesari on 2/8/2012 6:51:00 PM (view original):
"Just to be clear - if you are legitimately going after a recruit with the intent to sign them, have at it.  Competition for recruits is supposed to happen.  The problems come when someone is recruiting a player just to mess with another team's recruiting with no intentions of ever signing the player."

So how exactly can you tell the difference? Where is the line drawn? Everyone can say they were legit going after the guy, so what happens after that? 

This is why these types of things take up a lot of support time, taking away from possible development time.  We have to look on a case by case basis.