ACC vs. Big 10 Challenge Topic

Thought I would start this thread to give us a place to discuss the scheduling for next season.
3/24/2012 10:07 AM
I gave the Big 10 Coaches a heads up on this boar......I think we need to play at least 4 of the 5 available games....I'm open to all 5...
3/24/2012 2:17 PM
Either way you guys want to do it Im in. All 5 or 4.
3/24/2012 2:41 PM
sorry PSU already filled out its OOC schedule next season.  I'm open to the season after that.
3/24/2012 4:08 PM
here's my suggestion.   We can do this one of two ways:

1)  each conf discusses and comes up with its own rankings of the teams.  Then #1 vs #1, #2 vs #2, etc.  Obviously this is high subjective.

2)  let the final WIS ranking of the previous season determine the seating, and issue out the challenge accordingly.  This is not perfect either, given the WIS ranking can be a bit off, and also does not take into account graduating seniors.
3/24/2012 4:11 PM
I'm filled out for next season but will keep my ooc slots open for next. I'm ok with either way...

--way
3/24/2012 5:43 PM
Posted by DKC on 3/24/2012 4:12:00 PM (view original):
here's my suggestion.   We can do this one of two ways:

1)  each conf discusses and comes up with its own rankings of the teams.  Then #1 vs #1, #2 vs #2, etc.  Obviously this is high subjective.

2)  let the final WIS ranking of the previous season determine the seating, and issue out the challenge accordingly.  This is not perfect either, given the WIS ranking can be a bit off, and also does not take into account graduating seniors.
I say go with #1. Let the coaches of each conference decide and if there is a tie, the tiebreaker can be WIS ranking.
3/24/2012 10:57 PM
the big question is how 2-3-4 line up....also, MN, IL and WI are a coin toss.....here is my thought.....Big 10: #1 Penn St 2) ND 3) Oh St 4) MI 5) MIN 6) IL 7) WI 8) Purdue 9) Iowa

Here is my 1st thought of how it would look: 1 threw 4 play each other.....then 5 threw 9 play each other.....start with 1vs4, 1vs3, 1vs2, 1vs1......2 vs3, 2vs4,2vs1, 2vs2.....3th week 3v4, 4th week 3vs3, 4vs4.....same thing for the 5 threw 9.....only issue is...ACC only has 8 coaches
3/25/2012 12:48 AM
Here is how I rank the ACC-
1. FSU
2. Miami
3. BC
4. Va Tech
5. Clemson
6. Maryland
7. North Carolina
8. Duke

What do the rest of ya think?
3/25/2012 8:03 PM
I think this would be interesting... both conf have combined for 9 of the last 11 NC and one from each conf in this NC... I hope this goes through!
3/25/2012 10:08 PM
Are we ranking based on this season or how strong they'll be next season? If the former I'd go

1. FSU
1a. Miami
3. BC
4. Maryland
5. VaTech
6. UNC
7. Clemson
8. Duke

If the latter (with Sr Starter Grads in parenthesis)

1.Miami (9)
2.FSU (10)
3. BC (7)
4. UNC (7)
5. Clemson (2)
6. Maryland (8)
7. VaTech (11)
8. Duke (2)
3/26/2012 12:13 AM
Posted by big_red_one on 3/25/2012 12:48:00 AM (view original):
the big question is how 2-3-4 line up....also, MN, IL and WI are a coin toss.....here is my thought.....Big 10: #1 Penn St 2) ND 3) Oh St 4) MI 5) MIN 6) IL 7) WI 8) Purdue 9) Iowa

Here is my 1st thought of how it would look: 1 threw 4 play each other.....then 5 threw 9 play each other.....start with 1vs4, 1vs3, 1vs2, 1vs1......2 vs3, 2vs4,2vs1, 2vs2.....3th week 3v4, 4th week 3vs3, 4vs4.....same thing for the 5 threw 9.....only issue is...ACC only has 8 coaches
I say we hold off on the ranking until later on, when we can take a look at the roster more accurately.  For example, my stud QB is going to graduate by the time the challenge is on, and who knows what kind of QB I will have starting.
3/27/2012 1:38 PM
Posted by DKC on 3/27/2012 1:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by big_red_one on 3/25/2012 12:48:00 AM (view original):
the big question is how 2-3-4 line up....also, MN, IL and WI are a coin toss.....here is my thought.....Big 10: #1 Penn St 2) ND 3) Oh St 4) MI 5) MIN 6) IL 7) WI 8) Purdue 9) Iowa

Here is my 1st thought of how it would look: 1 threw 4 play each other.....then 5 threw 9 play each other.....start with 1vs4, 1vs3, 1vs2, 1vs1......2 vs3, 2vs4,2vs1, 2vs2.....3th week 3v4, 4th week 3vs3, 4vs4.....same thing for the 5 threw 9.....only issue is...ACC only has 8 coaches
I say we hold off on the ranking until later on, when we can take a look at the roster more accurately.  For example, my stud QB is going to graduate by the time the challenge is on, and who knows what kind of QB I will have starting.
I think it will be too hard and way too subjective to take into account how a roster may look a couple of seasons away. One thing we maybe can do is wait until early entries declare and then do final standings....I would be okay with that. Besides, DKC can reload faster than anyone else......lol!
I thought about waiting until the regular season is over before scheduling opponents,  but if someone opts out and the other coach has to take more sim coached teams for their schedule, that could ruin a season with a low SOS.
Another thing that DKC pointed out is that if we do schedule all these tough games, it will could potentially cost our conferences a shot in the NC games because likely nobody will be able to run the gauntlet of beating 4-6 top20 teams.
Here is my proposal:
Each conference votes on ranking their own conference, majority rules- conference champion should have to be ranked first. The votes for each conference will be taken after early entries declare. I say we schedule at most 3 games and maybe only 2 per team between conferences. I really do not want to play Penn St., Notre Dame, Ohio State, amd Michigan and then turn around and play a tough conference schedule- with some bad luck you could start out 1-4 or 0-5....talk about a season killer!

**********EDITED   If it is 2 games, #1 rank plays the top 2 from the other conference. So if you are ranked #4, you play the 3rd and 4th ranked teams and if ranked 6th, you play the 5th and 6th ranked teams from the other conference. I say go with 2 games only. *******
 
Let's hear what everyone else has to say and then vote on the proposals.
3/27/2012 10:15 PM (edited)
Here are my thoughts.......

1. 2 games should be good enough, we don't want to make the schedules so difficult that we ruin the chance for a NC for some teams.
2. The CC should be automatically ranked #1, and the others voted on by the conference right after early entries.
3. I like the two game proposal of 1 & 2 vs. 1 & 2, 3 & 4 vs. 3 & 4, etc.

3/27/2012 10:57 PM
So are we leaving games 1 and 2 in our OOC schedule open until after the conclusion of next season's regular season? (And filling games 3,4,5 with other teams?)

Playing a top notch schedule has its own rewards... I dropped 3 games this year and still made a level 5 bowl......
3/28/2012 4:11 PM
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