I'll try to explain it another way. hbdgirl plays in 4 worlds(she used to be in my 5th one). I'll use players she won't and she'll use players I won't. So, when she first joins, we usually agree to a deal or two pretty quickly. However, when she joined MG/Coop, we had a tougher time making a trade. In multi-player deals, there's usually a "throw-in". Someone who might be a 20th player on BL roster now or in the future. In other worlds, I'm more likely to just say "Here" and be done with it. Why? Because I know, in a less competitive world, that I'll find that 20th player at the end of FA or on the WW at some point. Giving one up is no big deal because the bottom of the world will leave them out there all day. Simply because owners who lose a lot don't understand the value of non-stars. Everyone knows that the 84 player is good. Finding those 68s to fill out the roster is the key to the game.