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9/12/2012 10:04 AM (edited)
Creating this thread to share the results of the hosing that we received in the Devious Weasel league.

Keep in mind that this is just for informational purposes only.... If someone claims a player as an exclusive that you have on your franchise, you will have to re-do it.  You will also not be held to this roster.

For example, on my team , I have 1937 Rogers Hornsby as a 67 PA pinch hitter.  If someone chooses Hornsby as his exclusive player (which may happen), I'll need to re-do my team to pick a different player from the 30's Browns to replace Hornsby.


 *****NOTE.... After posting your team, if you use Internet Explorer, then edit the post.... Select the column with the pictures in it with a RIGHT CLICK and select COLUMN  then DELETE COLUMN    You'll need to do this for the hitters and the pitchers.    Makes it much easier to read    ******
9/12/2012 8:26 AM (edited)
This is the team I'll be playing in Wrigley field (LA).  Pretty bad.  Good offense, bad pitching.  No help from my exclusive. 

In an open league, this might be a 50 win team. 

Pos Player B PA/
162
AB/
162
HR RBI SB-
CS
SO-
BB
AB/
HR
AVG OBP SLG F/R Salary
C 1933 Rick Ferrell R 623 529 4 77 4-2 23-70 123.3 .290 .381 .373 B/C+ $4,450,861
1B 1936 Jim Bottomley L 636 580 12 95 0-0 55-44 45.3 .298 .354 .476 B/D- $3,638,824
2B 1933 Ski Melillo R 571 533 3 79 12-10 18-29 165.3 .292 .333 .381 A/B- $4,301,635
3B 1938 Harlond Clift R 702 570 34 118 10-5 67-118 15.7 .290 .423 .554 B+/C $6,392,297
SS 1935 Lyn Lary R 469 396 2 35 25-4 43-64 185.5 .288 .396 .410 B-/B+ $3,868,794
OF 1937 Sam West L 533 481 7 58 1-1 28-46 65.3 .328 .390 .473 A-/A $5,363,041
OF 1936 Moose Solters R 721 670 17 134 3-0 76-41 36.9 .291 .336 .467 D/B $4,265,890
OF 1930 Goose Goslin L 703 615 37 138 17-11 54-67 15.8 .308 .382 .601 C/C+ $6,341,116
OF 1928 Tris Speaker L 225 203 3 30 5-1 5-10 63.7 .267 .310 .450 C+/B- $1,486,634
OF 1932 Red Kress R 60 55 2 9 1-1 6-4 26.0 .173 .232 .327 D/C+ $200,000
3B 1932 Ed Grimes R 80 72 0 13 0-1 12-6 68.0 .235 .297 .265 C/B $274,476
2B 1937 Red Barkley R 124 107 0 14 1-0 17-14 101.0 .267 .357 .327 C/D- $491,670
2B 1937 Rogers Hornsby R 67 59 1 11 0-0 5-7 56.0 .321 .397 .429 C/D- $341,347
C 1935 Tommy Heath R 122 100 0 9 0-0 13-20 93.0 .237 .372 .269 C+/D- $653,788
3B 1935 Johnny Burnett L 247 220 0 26 1-0 16-19 206.0 .223 .289 .282 C/D- $809,422
OF 1932 Tom Jenkins L 67 66 0 5 0-0 6-1 62.0 .323 .333 .339 C/B $313,045
OF 1938 Glenn McQuillen R 131 124 0 13 0-1 12-4 116.0 .284 .308 .319 C/C- $551,252
Util  optional                          
Util  optional                          
5380 122 864 80-37 456-564 41.4 .290 .364 .447 C+/C $43,744,092
Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162
ERA OAV WHIP K/
9
BB/
9
HR/
9
K-BB Salary
SP 1930 Lefty Stewart L 20-12-0 286 3.45 .268 1.30 2.62 2.32 0.70 79-70 $7,037,065
SP/RP 1930 Alvin Crowder R 18-16-2 295 3.89 .259 1.33 3.44 3.09 0.55 107-96 $7,089,998
SP/RP 1939 Bobo Newsom R 20-11-2 307 3.58 .243 1.36 5.92 3.89 0.59 192-126 $7,895,117
SP/RP 1931 Dick Coffman R 9-13-1 179 3.88 .241 1.24 2.07 2.71 0.53 39-51 $4,441,620
SP/RP 1935 Earl Caldwell R 3-2-0 40 3.68 .245 1.39 1.23 4.17 0.49 5-17 $740,254
SP/RP 1930 Rip Collins R 9-7-2 181 4.35 .259 1.35 3.93 3.30 0.58 75-63 $4,218,517
SP/RP 1938 Jim Weaver R 6-5-3 148 3.43 .232 1.33 4.49 4.16 0.40 68-63 $4,363,235
SP/RP 1938 Jack Knott R 1-2-0 32 4.80 .285 1.67 2.40 4.50 0.90 8-15 $389,486
SP/RP  optional                      
SP/RP  optional                      
SP/RP  optional                      
SP/RP  optional                      
SP/RP  optional                      
1,468 3.77 .253 1.33 3.72 3.25 0.58 573-501 $36,175,292
9/12/2012 12:07 PM
Pos Player B PA/
162
AB/
162
HR RBI SB-
CS
SO-
BB
AB/
HR
AVG OBP SLG F/R Salary
C 1894 Candy LaChance S 339 318 5 52 20-20 32-16 51.4 .323 .365 .494 C-/C- $2,166,055
1B 2011 Albert Pujols R 651 579 37 99 9-1 58-61 15.6 .299 .366 .541 C+/A- $5,567,593
2B 1894 Tom Daly S 710 609 8 82 51-38 42-77 61.5 .341 .436 .476 D/D $5,118,449
3B 1892 Bill Joyce L 486 392 6 45 23-24 55-82 62.0 .245 .392 .398 D/C- $3,020,162
SS 1899 Bill Dahlen R 563 469 4 76 29-28 39-67 107.0 .283 .398 .395 B-/B- $4,428,155
OF 1894 George Treadway L 684 593 4 102 27-22 43-72 119.8 .328 .418 .518 D/B $5,130,482
OF 1896 Fielder Jones L 558 489 3 46 18-20 15-48 131.7 .354 .427 .443 D/D+ $4,078,248
OF 1894 George Shoch R 334 296 1 37 16-14 6-26 239.0 .322 .400 .402 D+/B $2,115,321
C 1894 Billy Earle R 162 143 0 13 6-11 5-15 115.0 .348 .427 .409 C/C $1,858,734
C 1894 Tom Kinslow R 301 276 2 41 4-8 11-20 111.5 .305 .362 .408 D/C- $1,610,036
1B 1899 Hughie Jennings R 233 192 0 34 14-14 15-13 175.0 .326 .424 .434 B-/D $1,678,347
3B 1893 Willie Keeler L 108 102 1 9 2-2 4-4 80.0 .313 .353 .388 C/A+ $726,111
SS 1899 Zeke Wrigley R 76 71 0 12 3-2 5-4 64.0 .203 .250 .297 C/D $282,612
3B 1893 Gil Hatfield R 176 152 2 19 9-8 5-17 60.0 .292 .388 .417 D/D+ $1,035,846
1B 1899 Pete Cassidy R 230 212 3 36 6-9 18-10 66.0 .298 .353 .414 D/D- $1,188,429
C 1890 Doc Bushong R 77 70 0 7 2-3 4-6 55.0 .236 .311 .273 C/A $237,917
OF 1895 Oyster Burns R 106 94 0 7 0-0 2-8 76.0 .184 .271 .211 D/C- $302,020
OF 1893 Harry Stovey R 321 255 1 34 23-12 14-52 201.0 .239 .395 .353 D/A $1,929,184
      6115 5312 77 751 262-236 373-598 59.1 .304 .393 .442 C-/C+ $42,473,701
Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162
ERA OAV WHIP K/
9
BB/
9
HR/
9
K-BB Salary
SP 1899 Brickyard Kennedy R 22-9-2 304 2.79 .274 1.38 1.78 2.79 0.36 55-86 $6,765,835
SP/RP 1890 Tom Lovett R 30-11-0 468 2.78 .226 1.26 3.00 3.41 0.34 124-141 $12,437,649
SP/RP 1892 Ed Stein R 27-16-1 397 2.84 .213 1.22 4.53 3.58 0.14 190-150 $12,227,336
SP/RP 1895 Bert Abbey R 5-2-0 65 4.33 .300 1.44 2.42 1.56 0.00 14-9 $1,551,518
SP/RP 1891 Bert Inks L 3-10-0 113 4.02 .252 1.47 4.39 4.02 0.19 47-43 $2,355,807
SP/RP 1890 Mickey Hughes R 4-4-0 84 5.16 .278 1.61 2.98 4.07 0.14 22-30 $1,468,527
SP/RP 1896 Ad Gumbert R 0-4-0 39 3.77 .276 1.45 0.87 3.19 0.58 3-11 $550,296
      91-56-3 1,470 3.11 .242 1.32 3.22 3.32 0.25 455-470 $37,356,968
9/12/2012 12:08 PM
I don't hate my OBP.
I don't hate my starters.
I don't hate Pujols in Coors.

If I ever have to use my bullpen, however...*shudder*
9/12/2012 1:22 PM
You might be a little better off than I am...

What's going to be funny is that 2 teams from this league will be in the TOC.    :)
9/13/2012 11:33 AM (edited)
Player B PA/
162
AB/
162
HR RBI SB-
CS
SO-
BB
AB/
HR
AVG OBP SLG F/R Salary
    C 1989 Dave Valle R 355 316 7 34 0-0 32-29 45.1 .237 .311 .354 B+/A- $2,668,446
    1B 1989 Alvin Davis L 611 498 21 95 0-1 49-101 23.7 .305 .424 .496 B-/C+ $5,090,325
    2B 1989 Harold Reynolds S 677 613 0 43 25-18 45-55 613.0 .300 .359 .369 B-/A $5,442,010
    3B 1987 Jim Presley R 622 575 24 88 2-0 157-38 24.0 .247 .296 .433 B-/B+ $4,020,130
    SS 1985 Spike Owen S 393 352 6 37 11-5 27-34 58.7 .259 .322 .372 A-/B $2,838,985
    OF 1888 Mike Griffin L 712 641 0 46 46-24 48-55 542.0 .256 .331 .336 C/A- $4,854,078
    OF 1987 Phil Bradley R 701 603 14 67 40-10 119-84 43.1 .297 .387 .463 B/D+ $5,042,977
    OF 1981 Tom Paciorek R 672 602 14 66 13-10 50-35 28.9 .326 .379 .509 C/B $6,120,491
    C 1986 Scott Bradley L 241 220 5 28 1-2 7-13 44.0 .300 .347 .432 B/B- $1,767,394
    2B 1980 Larry Milbourne S 296 258 0 26 7-6 13-19 258.0 .264 .313 .333 C/D- $1,344,551
    SS 1989 Dave Cochrane S 117 102 3 7 0-2 27-14 34.0 .235 .333 .382 D-/D- $515,106
    SS 1985 Danny Tartabull R 69 61 1 7 1-0 14-8 61.0 .328 .406 .525 C/D- $579,245
    Util  optional                          
    Util  optional                          
    Util  optional                          
    Util  optional                          
    Util  optional                          
    Util  optional                          
    Util  optional                          
Batting Totals 5466 4841 95 544 146-78 588-485 47.8 .280 .352 .415 C+/C+ $40,283,738
Pitching Staff
    Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162
ERA OAV WHIP K/
9
BB/
9
HR/
9
K-BB Salary
    SP 1989 Mark Langston L 4-5-0 74 3.56 .221 1.08 7.36 2.33 0.37 60-19 $2,192,575
    SP/RP 1985 Karl Best R 2-1-4 33 1.95 .207 0.96 8.91 1.67 0.28 32-6 $1,173,790
    SP/RP 1982 Bill Caudill R 12-9-26 96 2.35 .192 1.05 10.44 3.29 0.85 111-35 $3,188,466
    SP/RP 1987 Bill Wilkinson L 3-4-10 77 3.66 .223 1.07 8.61 2.48 0.94 73-21 $2,267,600
    SP/RP 1981 Larry Andersen R 3-3-5 101 2.66 .228 1.11 5.32 2.39 0.53 40-18 $2,667,033
    SP/RP 1988 Scott Bankhead R 7-9-0 136 3.07 .224 1.13 6.80 2.53 0.53 102-38 $3,997,033
    SP/RP 1981 Jim Beattie R 3-2-1 100 2.97 .232 1.16 4.86 2.43 0.27 36-18 $2,747,064
    SP/RP 1989 Erik Hanson R 9-5-0 114 3.18 .243 1.19 5.96 2.54 0.56 75-32 $2,748,612
    SP/RP 1988 Mike Moore R 9-15-1 231 3.78 .232 1.13 7.16 2.48 0.94 182-63 $5,928,401
    SP/RP 1982 Bob Stoddard R 3-3-0 68 2.41 .205 0.98 3.21 2.41 0.94 24-18 $1,863,505
    SP/RP 1985 Roy Thomas R 7-0-1 94 3.36 .202 1.22 6.73 4.61 0.77 70-48 $2,595,707
    SP/RP 1987 Jerry Reed R 1-2-7 82 3.42 .255 1.26 5.62 2.65 0.77 51-24 $1,857,013
    SP/RP 1988 Edwin Nunez R 1-4-0 30 7.98 .366 2.01 5.83 4.30 1.23 19-14 $200,000
Pitching Totals 64-62-55 1,236 3.30 .229 1.15 6.78 2.74 0.71 875-354 $33,426,799
9/13/2012 1:47 AM
I went a little light on IP because of Petco -- even though a number of other teams will be in high octane stadiums  -- as I have a very solid defense behind fairly solid pitchers in a ballpark that doesn't allow runs. I don't figure this league will play like a normal $80m league, so I figure I can get probably around 15% more IP from my pitcher over RL as opposed to the standard 10%. 

I didn't really pay attention to the IP of each pitcher as I was drafting them, I went solely by OAV#/WHIP#/HR/9#+... I only made one exception to that rule, taking the '88 Moore instead of the '85 based on performance history. So, this will be an interestingly set up rotation and bullpen, but a strong one.

My defense is solid, especially for my home stadium, and my offense is about standard for the era. I do have more triples than I would've guessed from a team in the fairly modern era, and I have a few legit speed and power threats. Plus, Even though it is griffin's worst season, he normalizes excellent with AVG+/OBP+/SLG+ all at or above 110, so his # slash looks like .269/.347/.369. Which, when you factor in his defense, makes him a great selection.

My first five hitters (Griffin, Bradley, Reynolds, Paciorek, Davis) will do well, it's my 6 hitter (Presley) and my two platoons at SS (Owen, Milbourne, Tartabull) and C (Valle, Bradley, Cochrane) that I worry about offensively. Though the 3rd part of both of those should make great PHers!
9/13/2012 8:26 AM
I'll guarantee that I wouldn't want to manage that pitching staff, but you have a fairly strong team for this league. 

Now edit that post to remove those horrible icons!
9/18/2012 11:36 PM (edited)
This is my final team....

Pos
Player
B
PA/
AB/
HR
RBI
SB-
SO-
AB/
AVG
OBP
SLG
F/R
Salary
162
162
CS
BB
HR
C
R
454
404
3
31
1-5
81-44
134.7
0.282
0.357
0.349
A-/A+
$3,803,401
1B
L
516
467
16
57
1-1
66-41
29.0
0.254
0.316
0.399
B/C
$2,865,856
2B
R
521
475
6
42
6-2
30-29
79.2
0.303
0.357
0.406
B/B-
$4,207,111
3B
R
409
369
15
53
5-4
57-28
24.6
0.276
0.328
0.434
B-/D-
$2,473,455
SS
S
457
395
0
24
1-3
54-54
395.0
0.248
0.341
0.306
B/A
$3,156,726
OF
R
558
483
12
75
16-8
60-64
40.3
0.340
0.422
0.482
A/C+
$5,911,204
OF
L
479
394
7
28
12-7
39-81
55.6
0.306
0.424
0.393
C/C
$3,512,932
OF
R
641
579
34
94
2-1
95-48
16.8
0.266
0.329
0.496
D+/D+
$3,859,046
C
L
169
154
6
17
2-4
24-11
25.3
0.250
0.303
0.441
A/C
$1,734,655
1B
R
144
129
9
17
0-0
27-15
14.1
0.252
0.331
0.472
C-/D-
$696,596
2B
R
246
230
5
27
1-1
29-12
46.0
0.348
0.377
0.474
A-/D-
$2,005,537
2B
L
277
256
2
14
0-0
22-15
127.0
0.280
0.332
0.350
B/D
$1,447,753
SS
R
248
222
1
12
1-1
25-20
220.0
0.214
0.284
0.277
A-/D
$978,247
OF
L
349
303
14
47
1-2
32-36
21.6
0.300
0.375
0.488
A/D
$2,573,597
OF
L
102
85
1
20
3-3
1-8
65.0
0.354
0.425
0.492
C/C
$1,024,158
Util
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
5570
4945
131
558
52-42
642-506
37.4
0.284
0.355
0.415
B/C
$40,250,274
Role
Player
T
W-L-S
IP/
ERA
OAV
WHIP
K/
BB/
HR/
K-BB
Salary
   
162
9
9
9
   
SP
R
16-12-1
278
2.20
0.222
0.98
6.64
1.56
0.49
205-48
$8,334,376
   
SP/RP
L
19-12-0
264
2.08
0.228
1.10
6.08
2.36
0.55
178-69
$6,616,566
   
SP/RP
R
13-12-0
234
3.43
0.222
1.17
5.93
3.12
0.92
154-81
$5,768,298
   
SP/RP
R
7-13-1
180
2.96
0.233
1.15
4.11
2.50
0.45
82-50
$4,314,049
   
SP/RP
R
9-10-0
170
2.76
0.233
1.19
6.21
2.86
0.58
117-54
$4,091,719
   
SP/RP
R
4 - 7 - 0
79
2.28
0.230
1.05
5.24
1.94
0.57
46-17
$1,886,891
   
SP/RP
L
3-7-3
93
3.69
0.249
1.13
5.73
1.65
0.49
59-17
$2,086,220
   
SP/RP
R
6-4-11
97
2.41
0.235
1.15
4.64
2.97
0.37
50-32
$2,342,449
   
SP/RP
L
1-4-1
64
2.40
0.216
1.07
3.82
2.54
0.57
27-18
$1,795,394
 
 
SP/RP
R
4-6-8
73
2.34
0.230
1.14
5.67
2.84
0.12
46-23
$2,446,146
   
SP/RP
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
82-87-25
1,532
2.64
0.229
1.11
5.67
2.41
0.55
964-409
 $39,682,108
   
9/16/2012 3:24 AM
Well this is the fore runner between two teams I am contemplating using. No real closer,  no base stealing threats, average defense, and hopefully enough PA's and PT to make it through a full season in Yankee Stadium III.  Maybe 70 wins????? Sounds like wishful thinking....
9/17/2012 8:53 AM
For this league, that's an incedible rotation... I see that as a way over .500 team.
9/17/2012 2:57 PM
Posted by biglenr on 9/17/2012 8:53:00 AM (view original):
For this league, that's an incedible rotation... I see that as a way over .500 team.
I second len's take. That's a monster pitching staff for a league like this. My team won't be close to those WHIPs and the offense should give you enough runs to win with your good pitching.
9/17/2012 3:12 PM
And that is the reason I didn't hand out those 60's Mets. Now if someone were to go and take say Seaver and Koosman as exclusive players then it wouldn't look nearly as good. :)
9/17/2012 3:13 PM
C 1920 Wally Schang S 494 410 4 51 7-7 37-64 96.8 .305 .413 .450 D/C+ $4,604,992
1B 1925 Lou Gehrig L 523 460 20 68 6-3 49-46 21.9 .295 .365 .531 C+/C- $3,628,734
2B 1922 Del Pratt R 708 639 6 86 7-10 20-53 101.2 .301 .361 .427 C/C+ $4,787,223
3B 1928 Buddy Myer L 656 568 1 44 30-16 28-53 536.0 .313 .379 .390 A/C $4,946,582
SS 1926 Topper Rigney R 698 556 4 53 6-8 31-108 131.3 .270 .395 .377 A-/C- $4,657,872
OF 1924 Ira Flagstead R 696 590 5 43 10-13 41-77 112.0 .307 .401 .421 C+/B+ $5,458,753
OF 1920 Harry Hooper L 669 568 7 53 16-18 27-88 76.6 .312 .411 .470 C/C- $5,058,605
OF 1923 Joe Harris R 590 515 13 76 7-3 27-52 37.2 .335 .406 .520 C/C $5,014,850
C 1929 Johnnie Heving R 211 198 0 23 1-2 7-8 188.0 .319 .354 .372 B/C $1,943,270
3B 1925 Homer Ezzell R 230 199 0 15 9-7 18-19 186.0 .285 .351 .360 D/B $1,216,235
OF 1921 Sammy Vick R 85 81 0 9 0-1 10-1 77.0 .260 .269 .325 C/D- $251,785
OF 1928 George Loepp R 63 54 0 3 0-0 12-5 51.0 .176 .250 .275 C/A- $234,030
SS 1927 Pee-Wee Wanninger L 71 64 0 1 2-4 2-6 60.0 .200 .284 .200 D+/C+ $228,786
3B 1922 Eddie Foster R 129 115 0 3 1-1 10-9 109.0 .211 .277 .239 D/C- $359,160
Util  optional                          
Util  optional                          
Util  optional                          
Util  optional                          
Util  optional                          
5017 60 528 102-93 319-589 79.0 .299 .381 .427 C/C+ $42,390,877
Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162
ERA OAV WHIP K/
9
BB/
9
HR/
9
K-BB Salary
SP 1923 Howard Ehmke R 20-17-3 338 3.78 .272 1.38 3.44 3.38 0.34 121-119 $7,554,029
SP/RP 1921 Joe Bush R 16-9-1 268 3.50 .260 1.33 3.40 3.29 0.35 96-93 $7,686,897
SP/RP 1922 Jack Quinn R 13-16-0 270 3.48 .267 1.26 2.36 2.07 0.32 67-59 $6,701,702
SP/RP 1923 Les Howe R 1-0-0 32 2.40 .211 1.00 2.10 2.10 0.00 7-7 $1,171,292
SP/RP 1924 Ted Wingfield R 0-2-0 27 2.45 .240 1.21 1.40 2.81 0.00 4-8 $736,591
SP/RP 1920 Elmer Myers R 9-1-0 103 2.13 .249 1.18 3.15 2.23 0.09 34-24 $2,846,618
SP/RP 1920 Allan Russell R 5-6-1 114 3.01 .251 1.28 4.43 3.18 0.25 53-38 $2,593,546
SP/RP 1920 Herb Pennock L 16-13-2 257 3.68 .264 1.26 2.53 2.27 0.33 68-61 $6,451,871
SP/RP 1924 George Murray R 2-9-0 85 6.72 .307 1.61 3.03 3.59 0.67 27-32 $1,233,490
SP/RP 1926 Joe Kiefer R 0-2-0 32 4.80 .266 1.50 1.20 4.80 0.60 4-16 $427,651
SP/RP 1925 Ray Francis L 0-2-0 30 7.71 .373 2.04 1.29 4.18 0.96 4-13 $200,000
SP/RP  optional                      
SP/RP  optional                      
1,556 3.70 .267 1.32 2.97 2.88 0.34 485-470 $37,603,687
9/17/2012 3:23 PM
Posted by msheaf1 on 9/17/2012 3:12:00 PM (view original):
And that is the reason I didn't hand out those 60's Mets. Now if someone were to go and take say Seaver and Koosman as exclusive players then it wouldn't look nearly as good. :)
We should make this league Double Devious and make everyone select a hitter and pitcher next time. That would really chop some quality out of the franchises.
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