THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!!!! Topic

Posted by mchalesarmy on 10/20/2012 1:14:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/20/2012 1:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 10/20/2012 12:32:00 AM (view original):
The simple issue is why are you ok with the government forcing Catholics to commit a mortal sin?
Any Catholics that believe the pill is a mortal sin are free to not take the pill. No one is being forced to commit a sin.
Right.

They  are only forcing businesses to pay for healthcare which facilitates others ability to commit that sin.

So the only thing they can do to avoid having to facilitate that which is abhorrent to them is shut the doors of their businesses.


They have employees that use contraceptives. They are facilitating that use by paying them salary or paying premiums for health insurance that covers the cost. Taking contraceptives is the sin. No one is being forced to take contraceptives.
10/20/2012 10:08 AM
JERKING OFF IS AN EARLY ABORTION!
10/20/2012 10:21 AM
You owe me for losing the election.

Pay up then get lost.
10/20/2012 7:41 PM
What election? Obama is a heavy favorite for reelection.
10/21/2012 3:50 PM
What if employers decide to cut people to 30 hour work weeks and therefore not be eligible for benefits at all?
10/21/2012 6:30 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 10/21/2012 3:50:00 PM (view original):
What election? Obama is a heavy favorite for reelection.
You might want to refresh your news feed. You are still getting last months news.
10/21/2012 6:50 PM
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Posted by The Taint on 10/21/2012 6:52:00 PM (view original):
Why would they not be eligible for benefits?
Part time no benefits.

A lot of employers are cutting workers back to part time to avoid the regulatory nightmare that Obamacare is.
10/21/2012 7:35 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 10/21/2012 6:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/21/2012 3:50:00 PM (view original):
What election? Obama is a heavy favorite for reelection.
You might want to refresh your news feed. You are still getting last months news.
No, Obama is still a heavy favorite. Romney would need a huge turnaround in several states to get 270. Right now if Virginia and Florida break his way he only gets to 250.
10/22/2012 11:21 AM
So all he needs is Ohio or Pennsylvania, both in play, and a few other toss up and he wins...

This is so much closer than it was before the 1st Debate.

If Romney wins this that 1st Debate is going to be as famous as "Dewey Beats Truman".
10/22/2012 4:35 PM
No, PA really isn't in play. And Romney has a better chance of losing Florida than he does winning Ohio. The only true toss ups at this point are VA and CO. If Obama takes CO and Romney takes VA, Obama wins with 288 electoral votes.
10/22/2012 4:42 PM
Romney is up by 5 in Florida and down by 1 in Ohio. And both of these are trending towards Romney.

Romney is up by 3 in Virginia and 4 in Colorado. and tied in Iowa.

Your are correct about Pennsylvania. Obama is up by 5, but that is also trending towards Romney.

Ohio looks like the lynch pin, although with Virginia, Colorado and Iowa romney is at about 261. So if Wisconsin went he could win without Florida.
10/22/2012 5:57 PM
But he isn't going to get Wisconsin. Or Ohio. Like I said before, he's more likely to lose Florida than win Ohio.

From 538:
Ohio
FIVETHIRTYEIGHT PROJECTIONS DEM REP MARGIN
Polling average 48.2 45.2 Obama +3.0
Adjusted polling average 47.5 45.7 Obama +1.8
State fundamentals 47.2 46.6 Obama +0.6
Now-cast 47.5 45.8 Obama +1.7
Projected vote share ±3.7 50.3 48.3 Obama +2.0
Chance of winning 70% 30%  

Florida


FIVETHIRTYEIGHT PROJECTIONS DEM REP MARGIN
Polling average 47.1 47.6 Romney +0.5
Adjusted polling average 46.4 48.2 Romney +1.8
State fundamentals 45.9 48.2 Romney +2.3
Now-cast 46.3 48.2 Romney +1.9
Projected vote share ±3.6 48.8 50.5 Romney +1.7
Chance of winning 33% 67%

Wisconsin


FIVETHIRTYEIGHT PROJECTIONS DEM REP MARGIN
Polling average 50.0 46.0 Obama +4.0
Adjusted polling average 49.2 46.9 Obama +2.3
State fundamentals 50.1 43.6 Obama +6.5
Now-cast 49.3 46.4 Obama +2.9
Projected vote share ±3.9 51.3 48.1 Obama +3.2
Chance of winning 79% 21%
10/22/2012 6:19 PM
From Rasmussen...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/2012_electoral_college_scoreboard

And mine is all recent. Some of your polls are 4 days old
10/22/2012 8:19 PM
OMG! Four DAYS!?!?!?!??!!!

Rasmussen is pretty clearly right leaning. And one poll is never as good as an aggregate. Plus Obama is beating the living **** out of Mitt tonight, so there's that.
10/22/2012 9:51 PM
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