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10/9/2012 10:07 PM
Originally created many moons ago by examinerebb, this league makes any franchise a contender, and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season for non-playoff teams, then inverse order of win percentage of non-World Series playoff teams, with the WS runner-up picking 31st, and the WS champ choosing last. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-2012) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of each franchise's Rule V win percentage through all legs from which we have data (the worst teams pick first).  Many thanks to schwarze for compiling this data.  Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
No AAA


No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise)
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969 and 2012
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be run differential from the previous season, worse differential picks first

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season.  The scumbag finally won a championship.  Lady Karma has stunned us all with this development

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King (Emeritus)
10/15/2012 9:29 AM (edited)
Courtesy of schwarze, here are the updated franchise standings (again, removing the best and worst record)

Red = franchise has been drafted.

Rank Franchise Years _Wins_ Losses Wining%
1 Rays 3 199 287 0.4095
2 D'backs 8 564 732 0.4352
3 Tigers 9 653 805 0.4479
4 Pirates 11 839 943 0.4708
5 Rockies 8 617 679 0.4761
6 Blue Jays 15 1161 1270 0.4776
7 Twins 18 1397 1520 0.4789
8 Orioles 13 1010 1097 0.4794
9 Angels 10 783 837 0.4833
10 Rangers 13 1028 1079 0.4879
11 Padres 16 1267 1325 0.4888
12 White Sox 5 396 414 0.4889
13 Brewers 18 1435 1483 0.4918
14 Red Sox 19 1529 1550 0.4966
15 Phillies 19 1530 1551 0.4966
16 Mets 18 1463 1454 0.5015
17 Giants 18 1467 1450 0.5029
18 Expos 19 1555 1526 0.5047
19 Mariners 19 1558 1521 0.5060
20 Braves 19 1564 1514 0.5081
21 Indians 19 1574 1505 0.5112
22 Cubs 13 1079 1027 0.5123
23 Marlins 12 998 948 0.5128
24 Cardinals 19 1611 1468 0.5232
25 Royals 17 1447 1308 0.5252
26 Reds 13 1115 991 0.5294
27 Yankees 17 1464 1290 0.5316
28 Dodgers 17 1465 1290 0.5318
29 Astros 19 1687 1392 0.5479
30 A's 18 1607 1310 0.5509
10/23/2012 4:12 PM (edited)
Franchise Draft Order     (Draft schedule for Friday 10/12)

1. tridentric 60-102 .370                    Detroit Tigers+
2. mllama54 64-98 .395                   Houston Astros+
3. bob_shabazz 69-93 .426             Cincinnati Reds+
4. spoonfed 69-93 .426                    Tampa Bay Rays+
5. Cheno5 71-91 .438                       Philadelphia Phillies+
6. llcoach 77-85 .475                        St. Louis Cardinals+
7. specsman 77-85 .475                 Atlanta Braves+
8. newarkwilder 80-82 .494             Boston Red Sox+
9. jstewart281 81-81 .500                Oakland Athletics+
10. Disco Dogs 81-81 .500             Florida Marlins+
11. mussopini23 81-81 .500           San Francisco Giants
12. Robin4 81-81 .500                      Pittsburgh Pirates+
13. rbow923 83-79 .512                   Los Angeles Dodgers+
14. alleyviper 83-79 .512                  Los Angeles Angels+
15. marlowe 84-78 .519                   Cleveland Indians+
16. DoctorKz 88-75 .540                   Seattle Mariners+
17. deathdealer 82-80 .506*            Toronto Blue Jays+
18. shaybee 83-79 .512*                  San Diego Padres+
19. ff09 85-77 .525*                           Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals+
20. tjefferson 86-76 .531*                 Baltimore Orioles+
21. moneybonn 89-74 .546*            Texas Rangers+
22. holleybard 89-73 .549*               New York Mets+
23. sinfonian11 96-66 .593&            Milwaukee Brewers+
24. sgsmith 106-56 .654%               Chicago Cubs+

* playoff team
& WS Runner-up
% WS Champ

+ 3rd round keeper sent

Owner list for sitemailing: 
tridentric; mllama54; bob_shabazz; spoonfed; Cheno5; llcoach; specsman; newarkwilder; jstewart281; Disco Dogs; mussopini23; Robin4; rbow923; alleyviper; marlowe; DoctorKz; deathdealer; shaybee; ff09; tjefferson; moneybonn;
holleybard; sinfonian11; sgsmith; schwarze

Division Alignment:

NL East: Atlanta Braves, Philadelphia Phillies, New York Mets, Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals
NL Central: St. Louis Cardinals, Chicago Cubs, Cincinnati Reds, Pittsburgh Pirates
NL West: Los Angeles Dodgers, Houston Astros, San Francisco Giants, San Diego Padres
AL East: Boston Red Sox, Toronto Blue Jays, Baltimore Orioles, Tampa Bay Rays
AL Central: Cleveland Indians, Detroit Tigers, Milwaukee Brewers, Florida Marlins
AL West: Oakland A's, Los Angeles Angels, Texas Rangers, Seattle Mariners


10/26/2012 11:03 AM (edited)
Player Draft Round One:  (timed schedule starts Wednesday 10/17)                                             Off the Board

1. spoonfed - Tampa Bay Rays:                                                        Rico Petrocelli - BOS
2. tridentric - Detroit Tigers:                                                               Kevin Brown - LAD
3. Robin4 - Pittsburgh Pirates:                                                          Mark McGwire - STL
4. deathdealer - Toronto Blue Jays:                                                  Clayton Kershaw - LAD             Los Angeles Dodgers
5. tjefferson - Baltimore Orioles:                                                       Bob Gibson - STL                        St. Louis Cardinals
6. alleyviper - Los Angeles Angels:                                                  Derek Lowe - BOS                      Boston Red Sox
7. moneybonn - Texas Rangers:                                                      Tim Lincecum - SFG
8. shaybee - San Diego Padres:                                                      HWMNBN - CIN
9. sinfonian11 - Milwaukee Brewers:                                              Tony Phillips - DET
10. newarkwilder - Boston Red Sox:                                                Roy Halladay - TOR
11. Cheno5 - Philadelphia Phillies:                                                 Kevin Millwood - ATL
12. holleybard - New York Mets:                                                        Billy Williams - CHC
13. mussopini23 - San Francisco Giants:                                      Cesar Cedeno - HOU
14. ff09 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:                         John Olerud - NYM
15. DoctorKz - Seattle Mariners:                                                        Rick Wilkins - CHC                     Chicago Cubs
16. specsman - Atlanta Braves:                                                         Bob Ojeda - NYM                        New York Mets
17. marlowe - Cleveland Indians:                                                     Cole Hamels - PHI                                                   
18. sgsmith - Chicago Cubs:                                                             John Smoltz - ATL                      Atlanta Braves
19. Disco Dogs - Miami Marlins:                                                        Vladimir Guerrero - LAA
20. llcoach - St. Louis Cardinals:                                                       Andy Van Slyke - PIT
21. bob_shabazz - Cincinnati Reds:                                                 Larry Dierker - HOU                   Houston Astros
22. rbow923 - Los Angeles Dodgers:                                              Jimmy Rollins - PHI                    Philadelphia Phillies
23. mllama54 - Houston Astros:                                                       Buster Posey - SFG                    San Francisco Giants
24. jstewart281 - Oakland Athletics:                                                 Troy Glaus - LAA                         Los Angeles Angels

Player Draft Round Two: (timed schedule starts Monday 10/22)

1. spoonfed - Tampa Bay Rays:                                                         Nolan Ryan - LAA
2. tridentric - Detroit Tigers:                                                                 Rollie Fingers - MIL
3. Robin4 - Pittsburgh Pirates:                                                           Bret Boone - SEA
4. deathdealer - Toronto Blue Jays:                                                   Nolan Ryan - HOU
5. tjefferson - Baltimore Orioles:                                                        Carl Yastrzemski - BOS
6. alleyviper - Los Angeles Angels:                                                    Jim Edmonds - STL
7. moneybonn - Texas Rangers:                                                        Jim Thome - CLE
8. shaybee - San Diego Padres:                                                       Joey Votto - CIN
9. sinfonian11 - Milwaukee Brewers:                                                Carlton Fisk - BOS                        Boston Red Sox
10. newarkwilder - Boston Red Sox:                                                 Yadier Molina - STL                      St. Louis Cardinals
11. Cheno5 - Philadelphia Phillies:                                                  Rafael Furcal - ATL
12. holleybard - New York Mets:                                                         Vladimir Guerrero - MON/WSH
13. mussopini23 - San Francisco Giants:                                      Bill Madlock - CHC
14. ff09 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:                          Lenny Dykstra - PHI
15. DoctorKz - Seattle Mariners:                                                        Edgardo Alfonso - NYM
16. specsman - Atlanta Braves:                                                        Don Sutton - HOU                         Houston Astros
17. marlowe - Cleveland Indians:                                                     Armando Benitez - FLA
18. sgsmith - Chicago Cubs:                                                            Rich Aurillia - SFG 
19. Disco Dogs - Miami Marlins:                                                       Rafael Betancourt - CLE             Cleveland Indians
20. llcoach - St. Louis Cardinals:                                                     Brandon Phillips - CIN                   Cincinnati Reds
21. bob_shabazz - Cincinnati Reds:                                                Mark McGwire - OAK
22. rbow923 - Los Angeles Dodgers:                                              Rico Carty - ATL                             Atlanta Braves
23. mllama54 - Houston Astros:                                                       Tim Hudson - OAK                         Oakland Athletics
24. jstewart281 - Oakland Athletics:                                                 Brian Downing - LAA                     Los Angeles Angels

Player Draft Round Three:  (timed schedule starts Thurs 10/25)

1. spoonfed - Tampa Bay Rays:                                                        Bill Singer - LAD
2. tridentric - Detroit Tigers:                                                                JJ Putz - SEA
3. Robin4 - Pittsburgh Pirates:                                                          Aroldis Chapman - CIN
4. deathdealer - Toronto Blue Jays:                                                 Willie Hernandez - DET
5. tjefferson - Baltimore Orioles:                                                       Reggie Jackson - OAK
6. alleyviper - Los Angeles Angels:                                                  Darren Daulton - PHI
7. moneybonn - Texas Rangers:                                                       Willie Stargell - PIT
8. shaybee - San Diego Padres:                                                       Michael Young - TEX
9. sinfonian11 - Milwaukee Brewers:                                              Andy Pettite - HOU
10. newarkwilder - Boston Red Sox:                                                Don Wilson - HOU                      Houston Astros
11. Cheno5 - Philadelphia Phillies:                                                 Andre Dawson - MON/WSH
12. holleybard - New York Mets:                                                        Gary Sheffield - NYM
13. mussopini23 - San Francisco Giants:                                      Jake McGee - TAM
14. ff09 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:                          John Valentin - BOS
15. DoctorKz - Seattle Mariners:                                                        Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS               Boston Red Sox
16. specsman - Atlanta Braves:                                                        Jose Rijo - CIN                             Cincinnati Reds
17. marlowe - Cleveland Indians:                                                     David Wright - NYM
18. sgsmith - Chicago Cubs:                                                             Manny Ramirez - CLE
19. Disco Dogs - Miami Marlins:                                                       Hideo Nomo - LAD                      Los Angeles Dodgers
20. llcoach - St. Louis Cardinals:                                                      Trevor Hoffman - SDP               San Diego Padres
21. bob_shabazz - Cincinnati Reds:                                                 Roy Halladay - PHI                     Philadelphia Phillies
22. rbow923 - Los Angeles Dodgers:                                              Keith Hernandez - STL
23. mllama54 - Houston Astros:                                                       Ozzie Smith - STL                       St. Louis Cardinals
24. jstewart281 - Oakland Athletics:                                                 JD Drew - ATL
10/26/2012 11:03 AM (edited)
List of keepers and draft picks

spoonfed - Tampa Bay Rays:  James Shields, David Price, Evan Longoria, Carl Crawford, Ben Zobrist, Rico Petrocelli - BOS, BJ Upton, Nolan Ryan - LAA, Fernando Rodney, Bill Singer - LAD, 

tridentric - Detroit Tigers:  Miguel Cabrera, Justin Verlander, Magglio Ordonez, Alan Trammell, Curtis Granderson , Kevin Brown - LAD, Placido Polanco, Rollie Fingers - MIL, Dan Petry, JJ Putz - SEA,  

Robin4 - Pittsburgh Pirates:  Jay Bell, Andrew McCutchen, Barry Bonds, Doug Drabek, Rick Reuschel, Mark McGwire - STL, Goose Gossage, Bret Boone - SEA, Brian Giles, Aroldis Chapman - CIN, 

deathdealer - Toronto Blue Jays: Roger Clemens, Jimmy Key, Jose Bautista, John Olerud, Carlos Delgado, Clayton Kershaw - LAD, Mark Eichhorn, Nolan Ryan - HOU, BJ Ryan, Willie Hernandez - DET, 

tjefferson - Baltimore Orioles:  Jim Palmer, Mike Cuellar, Cal Ripken, Jr., Chris Hoiles, Brady Anderson, Bob Gibson - STL, Roberto Alomar, Carl Yastrzemski - BOS, Melvin Mora, Reggie Jackson - OAK, 

alleyviper - Los Angeles Angels:  Mike Trout, Tim Salmon, Bobby Grich, Frank Tanana, Jared Weaver, Derek Lowe - BOS, Doug DeCinces, Jim Edmonds - STL, Andy Messersmith, Darren Daulton - PHI, 

moneybonn - Texas Rangers:  Nolan Ryan, Cliff Lee, Josh Hamilton, Alex Rodriguez, Mike Napoli, Tim Lincecum - SFG, Juan Gonzalez, Jim Thome - CLE, Mike Adams, Willie Stargell - PIT

shaybee - San Diego Padres:  Jake Peavy, Kevin Brown, Tony Gwynn, Ken Caminiti, Mark Loretta, HWMNBN - CIN, Randy Jones, Joey Votto - CIN, Chris Young, Michael Young - TEX

sinfonian11 - Milwaukee Brewers:  Teddy Higuera, Ben Sheets, Ryan Braun, Prince Fielder, Robin Yount, Tony Phillips - DET, Paul Molitor, Carlton Fisk - BOS, Mike Caldwell, Andy Pettite - HOU

newarkwilder - Boston Red Sox:  Wade Boggs, Dustin Pedroia, Fred Lynn, Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, Roy Halladay - TOR,  Nomar Garciaparra, Yadier Molina - STL, Jonathan Papelbon, Don Wilson - HOU

Cheno5 - Philadelphia Phillies:  Steve Carlton, Curt Schilling, Mike Schmidt, Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, Kevin Millwood - ATL, Bobby Abreu, Rafael Furcal - ATL, Billy Wagner, Andre Dawson - MON/WSH

holleybard - New York Mets:  Tom Seaver, Dwight Gooden, Pedro Martinez, Carlos Beltran, Mike Piazza, Billy Williams - CHC, Jose Reyes, Vladimir Guerrero - MON/WSH, Lance Johnson, Gary Sheffield - SDP

mussopini23 - San Francisco Giants:  Barry Bonds, Willie McCovey, Kevin Mitchell, Juan Marichal, Jason Schmidt, Cesar Cedeno - HOU, Jeff Kent, Bill Madlock - CHC, Matt Cain, Jake McGee - TAM

ff09 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:  Gary Carter, Tim Raines, Pedro Martinez, Dennis Martinez, Pascual Perez, John Olerud - NYM, Jose Vidro, Lenny Dykstra - PHI, Gio Gonzales, John Valentin - BOS

DoctorKz - Seattle Mariners:  Randy Johnson, Felix Hernandez, Ichiro Suzuki, Ken Griffey, Jr., Alex Rodriguez, Rick Wilkins - CHC, Edgar Martinez, Edgardo Alfonso - NYM, Cliff Lee, Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS

specsman - Atlanta Braves:  Greg Maddux, Craig Kimbrel, Hank Aaron, Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones, Bob Ojeda - NYM, Javy Lopez, Don Sutton - HOU, Javier Vazquez, Jose Rijo - CIN

marlowe - Cleveland Indians:  Gaylord Perry, Sam McDowell, Albert Belle, Kenny Lofton, Roberto Alomar, Cole Hamels - PHI, Victor Martinez, Armando Benitez - FLA, Omar Vizquel, David Wright - NYM

sgsmith - Chicago Cubs:  Derrek Lee, Sammy Sosa, Ryne Sandberg, Greg Maddux, Fergie Jenkins, John Smoltz - ATL, Bruce Sutter, Rich Aurillia - SFG, Rich Harden, Manny Ramirez - CLE

Disco Dogs - Florida Marlins:  Kevin Brown, Mike Piazza, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Cabrera, Hanley Ramirez, Vladimir Guerrero - LAA,  Bryan Harvey, Rafael Betancourt - CLE, Luis Castillo, Hideo Nomo - LAD

llcoach - St. Louis Cardinals:  Albert Pujols, Joe Torre, Willie McGee, Chris Carpenter, John Tudor, Andy Van Slyke - PIT, Jose DeLeon, Brandon Phillips - CIN, Adam Wainwright, Trevor Hoffman - SDP

bob_shabazz - Cincinnati Reds:  Tom Seaver, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, Barry Larkin, George Foster, Larry Dierker - HOU, Eric Davis, Mark McGwire - OAK, Kevin Mitchell, Roy Halladay - PHI

rbow923 - Los Angeles Dodgers:  Don Sutton, Fernando Valenzuela, Matt Kemp, Adrian Beltre, Mike Piazza, Jimmy Rollins - PHI, Orel Hershiser, Rico Carty - ATL, Eric Gagne, Keith Hernandez - STL

mllama54 - Houston Astros:  Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman, Mike Scott, J.R. Richard, Roger Clemens, Buster Posey - SFG, Craig Biggio, Tim Hudson - OAK, Billy Wagner, Ozzie Smith - STL

jstewart281 - Oakland Athletics:  Jason Giambi, Rickey Henderson, Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter, Mike Norris, Troy Glaus - LAA, Dennis Eckersley, Brian Downing - LAA, Jose Canseco, JD Drew - ATL




10/10/2012 8:53 AM
well they say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. call me crazy as I seem to be picking first every leg. I've never finished last with a Triple Crown winner so lets take the 

Detroit Tigers
10/10/2012 10:21 AM
Had a feeling they might go early this time with Cabrera having a monster season.
10/10/2012 10:59 AM
Houston Astros
10/10/2012 11:27 AM
and we are off!!!
10/10/2012 1:41 PM
Cincinnati Reds
10/10/2012 2:07 PM
I will take the Tampa Bay Devil Rays  why not..
10/10/2012 2:34 PM
It's about time I tried my favorite team.  The Phillies.
10/10/2012 3:05 PM
Posted by spoonfed on 10/10/2012 2:07:00 PM (view original):
I will take the Tampa Bay Devil Rays  why not..
I can tell you why not....but you probably don't have time to read the 225 pages I have on the subject. Good luck with them. First time I took 'em I squeezed out an extremely lucky 83 wins. I was dumb enough to try them again and wound up with a more realistic 53.
10/10/2012 3:17 PM
St Louis Cardinals
10/10/2012 3:38 PM
Braves, please
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