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1/2/2013 6:08 PM
Posted by horvie78 on 1/2/2013 1:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ghutton9 on 1/2/2013 1:22:00 PM (view original):
He's correct. He sent me another sitemail saying he was only thinking out loud and didn't want to go through with it. We would've been screwed though to lose a person at the final 8 so I went with it.
I told Csudak he was guaranteed final 5 (which I never had plans of breaking) with a possibility of being a swing vote to the final 3. 


-----Original Message-----
From: csudak
To: horvie78
Sent: 12/13/2012 10:30:00 PM
Subject: RE: revote

I'm fine with the final 5, then letting it play out and letting the challenges do the talking.


-----Original Message-----
From: horvie78
To: csudak
Sent: 12/13/2012 8:09:00 PM
Subject: RE: revote

Trevnasty and Ghutton both want you as an alliance member. Ghutton said he already spoke with you about it. Jhard sent me a quick sitemail this morning and said he can't check in again until 10pm MTN...he's been having some sort of crisis at work...i still need to catch him up on what went down the last 2 days and then I'm pretty sure he will also be in. Together we will be guaranteed final 5. Trev and Ghutton would both like Dubs voted out next, as long as he doesn't win immunity. Who do you want?

To be completely honest, I can't guarantee final 3 at this point. I haven't given much deep thought about who is on the jury and what the pecking order is from our original 4 person group. Right now, I feel pretty low about my pecking order after the last vote...ghutton and trev both knew I needed them to vote Arfy, and then told me it was a mistake to vote Arfy and that they were voting Dubs. It would have cost me if you or tsut voted for me instead of Arfy. So I am thinking about making some sort of play, but am not sure yet.

I knew what I was getting into with you guys.  I knew I had the idol, so by final 5 I really meant final 4. What people don't realize, is if I went with dubs, tsut, and sjurat, I was still only guaranteed final 4, cause the idol would get me no further and assumed word got to dubs that I was the one who got arfy tossed, so he wasn't going to bring me to the end.

6 of one, half dozen of the other in my opinion.



1/2/2013 6:12 PM
Casey, you played a really good game. The odds were against you many times and you made it to the final 3. That's pretty impressive.
1/2/2013 6:15 PM
Posted by ghutton9 on 1/2/2013 6:12:00 PM (view original):
Casey, you played a really good game. The odds were against you many times and you made it to the final 3. That's pretty impressive.
I was impressed.  I would have voted him to win over almost everyone in this game.
1/2/2013 6:16 PM
Posted by psap on 1/2/2013 3:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bhazlewood on 1/2/2013 3:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by psap on 1/2/2013 3:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bhazlewood on 1/2/2013 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Actually I wanted bhouska - bringing in horvie caused a huge spat between psap and me - psap was convinced that I had an end-game alliance with dubs and Arfy because I traded idol clues with them, and I was ticked at psap for inviting someone into our group of four without talking about it first.
that was a crazy day.  i was POSITIVE that you had something on with dubs and stalagna.  good times!
That probably had as much to do with coach_deen's heart attack as anything LOL!
we so could have changed the game early on if you allowed golfpro and I to throw that poker challenge and get rid of Casey.
I fully expected to wake up that next morning seeing our tribe lost and that I was gone.

I will say this psap, I appreciate what you were trying to do in that you didn't want the vets to team up and pick off the rookies, but I still think you went about it the wrong way.  You made the play a little too early and with a little too much bravado, also, you couldn't have picked 2 worse people to plot against than me and steve.  And what I mean by that is Steve plays the game straighter than anyone, and to be honest, until the arfy vote in this one, I have never voted against someone who I have worked with. I know it wasn't personal against me and steve, we were just in the wrong tribe, but just like you didn't want to be targeted, it sucks to have the target on your back right away.  I always try to play the first few rounds based on performance in challenges. Coach_deen didn't respond to anything and didn't even want to play.  Why keep someone like that around just to make a splash when you have someone like steve who actually wants to be a part of it. 

1/2/2013 6:19 PM
Posted by Arfy on 1/2/2013 6:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ghutton9 on 1/2/2013 6:12:00 PM (view original):
Casey, you played a really good game. The odds were against you many times and you made it to the final 3. That's pretty impressive.
I was impressed.  I would have voted him to win over almost everyone in this game.
I appreciate this.  As you can tell by my name not being in anyone's early letters, I really didn't have any solid alliances.  Arfy said it perfect in his letter, "and I believe csudak".

Also, as proof by so many people thinking arfy would be in the final 3 with them(including me), my NUMEROUS sitemails to everyone saying that arfy was involved with everyone, in some way was true.

He's like the Kevin Bacon of survivor

1/2/2013 6:21 PM
Congrats Horvie,  I only voted ghutton cause he did have the knowledge of my idol, didn't reveal it to anyone, and could have easily blindsided me.


1/2/2013 6:24 PM
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Arfy on 1/2/2013 6:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ghutton9 on 1/2/2013 6:12:00 PM (view original):
Casey, you played a really good game. The odds were against you many times and you made it to the final 3. That's pretty impressive.
I was impressed.  I would have voted him to win over almost everyone in this game.
I appreciate this.  As you can tell by my name not being in anyone's early letters, I really didn't have any solid alliances.  Arfy said it perfect in his letter, "and I believe csudak".

Also, as proof by so many people thinking arfy would be in the final 3 with them(including me), my NUMEROUS sitemails to everyone saying that arfy was involved with everyone, in some way was true.

He's like the Kevin Bacon of survivor

You wouldn't say that if you saw me dance.
1/2/2013 6:26 PM
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:21:00 PM (view original):
Congrats Horvie,  I only voted ghutton cause he did have the knowledge of my idol, didn't reveal it to anyone, and could have easily blindsided me.


I knew about it.  I think told Dubs, not sure.  I know Horvie knew about it as I was trying to get them to make you use it and flush it out.
1/2/2013 6:30 PM
Posted by ghutton9 on 1/2/2013 5:47:00 PM (view original):
What happened was arfy didn't communicate with Casey at the final 10 vote. That left him suspicious.
I communicated with arfy the whole game, the only problem was I got these vague answers that left me very nervous.

There was one reason I targeted arfy.  He sent me a sitemail that basically showed me the pecking order without him realizing it, and I didn't like my spot.  My thought at that point was if I was going, I didn't want him to dictate when it was going to be.  I knew he thought he had the whole game figured out(as he basically said as much to tyson) and I wanted to show him that might not be the case.

It wasn't personal to Arfy, it was personal to SURVIVOR ARFY.

I believe arfy knows the difference, and if anyone doesn't know the difference, this isn't the game for you.

1/2/2013 6:30 PM
Posted by Arfy on 1/2/2013 6:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:21:00 PM (view original):
Congrats Horvie,  I only voted ghutton cause he did have the knowledge of my idol, didn't reveal it to anyone, and could have easily blindsided me.


I knew about it.  I think told Dubs, not sure.  I know Horvie knew about it as I was trying to get them to make you use it and flush it out.
From ghutton, or because of my awesome diversion techniques?
1/2/2013 6:32 PM
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Arfy on 1/2/2013 6:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:21:00 PM (view original):
Congrats Horvie,  I only voted ghutton cause he did have the knowledge of my idol, didn't reveal it to anyone, and could have easily blindsided me.


I knew about it.  I think told Dubs, not sure.  I know Horvie knew about it as I was trying to get them to make you use it and flush it out.
From ghutton, or because of my awesome diversion techniques?
From Both
1/2/2013 6:32 PM
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by psap on 1/2/2013 3:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bhazlewood on 1/2/2013 3:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by psap on 1/2/2013 3:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bhazlewood on 1/2/2013 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Actually I wanted bhouska - bringing in horvie caused a huge spat between psap and me - psap was convinced that I had an end-game alliance with dubs and Arfy because I traded idol clues with them, and I was ticked at psap for inviting someone into our group of four without talking about it first.
that was a crazy day.  i was POSITIVE that you had something on with dubs and stalagna.  good times!
That probably had as much to do with coach_deen's heart attack as anything LOL!
we so could have changed the game early on if you allowed golfpro and I to throw that poker challenge and get rid of Casey.
I fully expected to wake up that next morning seeing our tribe lost and that I was gone.

I will say this psap, I appreciate what you were trying to do in that you didn't want the vets to team up and pick off the rookies, but I still think you went about it the wrong way.  You made the play a little too early and with a little too much bravado, also, you couldn't have picked 2 worse people to plot against than me and steve.  And what I mean by that is Steve plays the game straighter than anyone, and to be honest, until the arfy vote in this one, I have never voted against someone who I have worked with. I know it wasn't personal against me and steve, we were just in the wrong tribe, but just like you didn't want to be targeted, it sucks to have the target on your back right away.  I always try to play the first few rounds based on performance in challenges. Coach_deen didn't respond to anything and didn't even want to play.  Why keep someone like that around just to make a splash when you have someone like steve who actually wants to be a part of it. 

I had no idea what i was getting into, and i just winged it.  I didn't know a single person in the game, so i had no idea what their histories were until i started to go back and read the old Survivor threads.  Fact is, until i did all that reading, I didn't even start to play the game until we were on the way to our first council.  Not much planning on my part, just reactionary, and fortunately i found receptive ears in that first tribe.

I could have went with you and voted coach_deen on the first vote, but it was clear that was not a power position, so i did my best to create one for myself.  I was playing to win, and was not playing to ride someone else's coattails.  I was happy i went as far as i did, and if it weren't for an unlucky tribe split i think i would have found enough rookie alliances to have made it to the jury.  There was no bravado in my method, i was just having a fun time with it.  Some take this game WAAAYYY too seriously.  In fact, if you read horive's and glutton's post apparently what i did had an impact on the way they played the game, which was news to me.

I'll play again.  I'll play under this name.  While i may have been vocal, i didn't break any promises nor lie to anyone either.  I'll take it for a first effort.

You played an extremely strong game Casey.  You had a target on your back from the get go and you did a great job maneuvering as you did.  Just appears you ran out of road and out of vets - so perhaps i did have a bit of say in it in the end.

Good game.  Lots of fun.  Great experience.


1/2/2013 6:35 PM
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ghutton9 on 1/2/2013 5:47:00 PM (view original):
What happened was arfy didn't communicate with Casey at the final 10 vote. That left him suspicious.
I communicated with arfy the whole game, the only problem was I got these vague answers that left me very nervous.

There was one reason I targeted arfy.  He sent me a sitemail that basically showed me the pecking order without him realizing it, and I didn't like my spot.  My thought at that point was if I was going, I didn't want him to dictate when it was going to be.  I knew he thought he had the whole game figured out(as he basically said as much to tyson) and I wanted to show him that might not be the case.

It wasn't personal to Arfy, it was personal to SURVIVOR ARFY.

I believe arfy knows the difference, and if anyone doesn't know the difference, this isn't the game for you.

I don't take it personal.  To me it is just a game.  That's why I don't have any problems leading people on and then cutting them if need be.



1/2/2013 6:37 PM
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:21:00 PM (view original):
Congrats Horvie,  I only voted ghutton cause he did have the knowledge of my idol, didn't reveal it to anyone, and could have easily blindsided me.


Arfy told me he was pretty sure you had it right before the final 10 merge.  Ghutton never told me that you had it, but I knew there was a high probability from your forum guesses.  I live in Chicago and knew it was at the Museum of Science and Industry right away...I just wasn't specific enough in my guess.
1/2/2013 6:37 PM
Posted by Arfy on 1/2/2013 6:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Arfy on 1/2/2013 6:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by csudak on 1/2/2013 6:21:00 PM (view original):
Congrats Horvie,  I only voted ghutton cause he did have the knowledge of my idol, didn't reveal it to anyone, and could have easily blindsided me.


I knew about it.  I think told Dubs, not sure.  I know Horvie knew about it as I was trying to get them to make you use it and flush it out.
From ghutton, or because of my awesome diversion techniques?
From Both
Bastard.  Just for that my team isn't going to lie down to him in Pine Tar anymore.

I'm not gonna lie, when you sent me the sitemail saying congrats on getting an idol, I was so confused because at that point I hadn't told anyone.



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