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1/8/2013 11:45 AM
Originally created many moons ago by examinerebb, this league makes any franchise a contender, and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season for non-playoff teams, then inverse order of win percentage of non-World Series playoff teams, with the WS runner-up picking 31st, and the WS champ choosing last. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-2012) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of each franchise's Rule V win percentage through all legs from which we have data (the worst teams pick first).  Many thanks to schwarze for compiling this data.  Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
No AAA


No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise)
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969 and 2012
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be run differential from the previous season, worse differential picks first

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season.  The scumbag finally won a championship (make it two after last leg).  Lady Karma has stunned us all with this development

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

The Single Most Overrated Position Player of All Time (TSMOPPOAT) - Cal Ripken, Jr.

(Both of those players designated by Vegas...see below)

Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King (emeritus)
1/11/2013 10:42 AM (edited)
Courtesy of schwarze, here are the updated franchise standings:

Franchises already selected are in Red.

New standings (removing best and worst seasons)
Rank Franchise Years _Wins_ Losses Wining%
1 Rays 4 261 387 0.4028
2 D'backs 8 564 732 0.4352
3 Tigers 10 718 902 0.4432
4 Pirates 12 908 1036 0.4671
5 Rockies 8 617 679 0.4761
6 Blue Jays 16 1236 1357 0.4767
7 Twins 18 1397 1520 0.4789
8 Angels 11 865 917 0.4854
9 Orioles 14 1109 1160 0.4888
10 White Sox 5 396 414 0.4889
11 Rangers 14 1112 1157 0.4901
12 Brewers 18 1435 1483 0.4918
13 Padres 17 1359 1395 0.4935
14 Phillies 20 1610 1633 0.4965
15 Mets 19 1538 1541 0.4995
16 Red Sox 20 1622 1619 0.5005
17 Mariners 20 1630 1611 0.5029
18 Giants 19 1553 1526 0.5044
19 Expos 20 1639 1604 0.5054
20 Braves 20 1641 1599 0.5065
21 Indians 20 1645 1596 0.5076
22 Cubs 14 1154 1114 0.5088
23 Marlins 13 1080 1028 0.5123
24 Cardinals 20 1687 1554 0.5205
25 Royals 17 1447 1308 0.5252
26 Reds 14 1193 1075 0.5260
27 Yankees 17 1464 1290 0.5316
28 Dodgers 18 1559 1358 0.5345
29 Astros 20 1777 1464 0.5483
30 A's 19 1699 1380 0.5518

1/18/2013 4:14 PM (edited)
Franchise draft order: (timed draft begins Wednesday 1/9)

1. spoonfed - 62-100 .383  Baltimore Orioles*
2. tridentric - 65-97 .401  Los Angeles Dodgers*
3. Robin4 - 69-93 .426  Oakland Athletics*
4. marlowe - 71-91 .438  Toronto Blue Jays*
5. schwarze - 72-90 .444  San Francisco Giants*
6. devomac - 75-87 .463 Boston Red Sox*
7. deathdealer - 75-87 .463  Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals*
8. sgsmith - 75-87 .463  Houston Astros*
9. llcoach - 76-86 .469  Atlanta Braves*
10. specsman - 77-85 .475  San Diego Padres*
11. Cheno5 - 80-82 .494  Florida Marlins*
12. Disco Dogs - 82-80 .506  Seattle Mariners*
13. alleyviper - 82-80 .506  Philadelphia Phillies*
14. moneybonn - 84-78 .519  Chicago Cubs
15. mussopini23 - 86-76 .531  Los Angeles Angels*
16. mllama54 - 90-72 .556  New York Yankees*
17. bob_shabazz - 78-84 .481 Kansas City Royals*
18. ff09 - 84-78 .509  Texas Rangers*
19. sinfonian11 - 91-71 .562  St. Louis Cardinals*
20. newarkwilder - 93-69 .574  Cleveland Indians*
21. rbow923 - 94-68 .580  New York Mets*
22. tjefferson - 99-63 .611  Detroit Tigers*
23. jstewart281 - 92-70 .568  Colorado Rockies*
24. shaybee - 92-70 .568  Cincinnati Reds*

* Third round keepers sent

Owner list for sitemailing:  spoonfed; tridentric; Robin4; marlowe; schwarze; devomac; deathdealer; sgsmith; llcoach; specsman; Cheno5; Disco Dogs; alleyviper; moneybonn; mussopini23; mllama54; bob_shabazz; ff09; sinfonian11; newarkwilder; rbow923; tjefferson; jstewart281; shaybee

Division Alignment:

AL

Baltimore Orioles
Toronto Blue Jays
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees

Kansas City Royals
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Florida Marlins

Seattle Mariners
Oakland Athletics
Los Angeles Angels
Texas Rangers


NL

Philadelphia Phillies
New York Mets
Atlanta Braves
Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals

Houston Astros
St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds

Los Angeles Dodgers
San Francisco Giants
San Diego Padres
Colorado Rockies



1/22/2013 12:15 AM (edited)
Player Draft Round One (timed schedule starts Tuesday 1/15)                                                       Off the Board

1. tjefferson - Detroit Tigers:                                                                 John Olerud - TOR
2. jstewart281 - Colorado Rockies:                                                    Clayton Kershaw - LAD
3. marlowe - Toronto Blue Jays:                                                           Orel Hershiser - LAD            Los Angeles Dodgers
4. mussopini23 - Los Angeles Angels:                                              Derek Jeter - NYY
5. spoonfed - Baltimore Orioles:                                                          Yadier Molina - STL
6. ff09 - Texas Rangers:                                                                         Rickey Henderson - NYY      New York Yankees
7. specsman - San Diego Padres:                                                      Rich Aurillia - SFG
8. alleyviper - Philadelphia Phillies:                                                    Willie McCovey - SFG             San Francisco Giants
9. rbow923 - New York Mets:                                                                 Rico Petrocelli - BOS
10. devomac - Boston Red Sox:                                                           Joey Votto - CIN
11. Disco Dogs - Seattle Mariners:                                                      Nolan Ryan - HOU
12. schwarze - San Francisco Giants:                                                Nomar Garciaparra - BOS    Boston Red Sox
13. deathdealer - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:             Mike Norris - OAK
14. llcoach - Atlanta Braves:                                                                  George Foster - CIN               Cincinnati Reds
15. newarkwilder - Cleveland Indians:                                                David Cone - KCR
16. moneybonn - Chicago Cubs:                                                         Tim Hudson - OAK                  Oakland Athletics
17. Cheno5 - Florida Marlins:                                                                Bob Gibson - STL                   St. Louis Cardinals
18. sinfonian11 - St. Louis Cardinals:                                                 Lance Berkman - HOU          Houston Astros
19. bob_shabazz - Kansas City Royals:                                             Roberto Alomar - CLE
20. shaybee - Cincinnati Reds:                                                            Mark Eichhorn - TOR             Toronto Blue Jays
21. mllama54 - New York Yankees:                                                     Mark Loretta - SDP
22. tridentric - Los Angeles Dodgers:                                                  Andy Messersmith - LAA
23. sgsmith - Houston Astros:                                                              Chris Hoiles - BAL
24. Robin4 - Oakland Athletics:                                                            Gary Carter - NYM

Round Two (timed schedule starts Thursday 1/17)

1. tjefferson - Detroit Tigers:                                                                  Edgar Martinez - SEA
2. jstewart281 - Colorado Rockies:                                                     Kevin Brown - LAD
3. marlowe - Toronto Blue Jays:           `                                               Carlton Fisk - BOS
4. mussopini23 - Los Angeles Angels:                                              Jeff Kent - SFG
5. spoonfed - Baltimore Orioles:                                                          Gary Sheffield - SDP
6. ff09 - Texas Rangers:                                                                          Don Wilson - HOU
7. specsman - San Diego Padres:                                                      Robinson Cano - NYY
8. alleyviper - Philadelphia Phillies:                                                     Scott Rolen - STL
9. rbow923 - New York Mets:                                                                 Mariano Rivera - NYY               New York Yankees
10. devomac - Boston Red Sox:                                                           Larry Walker - MON/WSH
11. Disco Dogs - Seattle Mariners:                                                      Adrian Beltre - TEX
12. schwarze - San Francisco Giants:                                                Roberto Alomar - TOR
13. deathdealer - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:             JD Drew - ATL
14. llcoach - Atlanta Braves:                                                                  Lenny Dykstra - PHI
15. newarkwilder - Cleveland Indians:                                                David Wright - NYM
16. moneybonn - Chicago Cubs:                                                         Aroldis Chapman - CIN
17. Cheno5 - Florida Marlins:                                                                John Olerud - NYM                 New York Mets
18. sinfonian11 - St. Louis Cardinals:                                                 Troy Percival - LAA
19. bob_shabazz - Kansas City Royals:                                              Rico Carty - ATL                       Atlanta Braves
20. shaybee - Cincinnati Reds:                                                             Pedro Guerrero - LAD             Los Angeles Dodgers
21. mllama54 - New York Yankees:                                                      Ozzie Smith - STL                    St. Louis Cardinals
22. tridentric - Los Angeles Dodgers:                                                   Omar Vizquel - CLE
23. sgsmith - Houston Astros:                                                                John Valentin - BOS               Boston Red Sox
24. Robin4 - Oakland Athletics:                                                              Bobby Grich - BAL

Round Three (timed schedule starts Monday 1/21)

1. tjefferson - Detroit Tigers:                                                                   Larry Dierker - HOU
2. jstewart281 - Colorado Rockies:                                                       CC Sabathia - CLE
3. marlowe - Toronto Blue Jays:                                                            Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS
4. mussopini23 - Los Angeles Angels:                                                Billy Wagner - ATL
5. spoonfed - Baltimore Orioles:                                                            Bob Ojeda - NYM
6. ff09 - Texas Rangers:                                                                           Scott Rolen - PHI
7. specsman - San Diego Padres:                                                        Matt Holliday - COL
8. alleyviper - Philadelphia Phillies:                                                      Dave Righetti - NYY
9. rbow923 - New York Mets:                                                                  Jim Edmonds - STL
10. devomac - Boston Red Sox:                                                             Carlos Guillen - DET
11. Disco Dogs - Seattle Mariners:                                                       Don Mattingly - NYY                      New York Yankees
12. schwarze - San Francisco Giants:                                                  Kris Medlan - ATL                        Atlanta Braves
13. deathdealer - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:               Edwin Encarnacion - TOR
14. llcoach - Atlanta Braves:                                                                   Andrew Bailey - OAK
15. newarkwilder - Cleveland Indians:                                                 Miguel Tejada - BAL                                   
16. moneybonn - Chicago Cubs:                                                           Dickie Thon - HOU                       Houston Astros
17. Cheno5 - Florida Marlins:                                                                 Roy Halladay - TOR                      Toronto Blue Jays
18. sinfonian11 - St. Louis Cardinals:                                                  Rafael Furcal - LAD
19. bob_shabazz - Kansas City Royals:                                               Jose Reyes - NYM                        New York Mets
20. shaybee - Cincinnati Reds:                                                              Heath Bell - SDP
21. mllama54 - New York Yankees:                                                      Cliff Lee - SEA
22. tridentric - Los Angeles Dodgers:                                                    Willie McGee - STL                       St. Louis Cardinals
23. sgsmith - Houston Astros:                                                                Cla Meredith - SDP                        San Diego Padres
24. Robin4 - Oakland Athletics:                                                               Mike Mussina - BAL                      Baltimore Orioles

1/22/2013 12:17 AM (edited)
List of keepers/draft picks

tjefferson - Detroit Tigers:  Justin Verlander, Miguel Cabrera, Alan Trammell, Magglio Ordonez, Tony Phillips, John Olerud - TOR, Willie Hernandez, Edgar Martinez - SEA, Curtis Granderson, Larry Dierker - HOU

jstewart281 - Colorado Rockies:  Todd Helton, Troy Tulowitski, Vinny Castilla, Ellis Burks, Larry Walker, Clayton Kershaw - LAD, Eric Young, Kevin Brown - LAD, Ubaldo Jimenez, CC Sabathia - CLE, 

marlowe - Toronto Blue Jays:  Roger Clemens, Jose Bautista, Shawn Green, Carlos Delgado, Tony Fernandez, Orel Hershiser - LAD, BJ Ryan, Carlton Fisk - BOS, Jimmy Key, Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS, 

mussopini23 - Los Angeles Angels:  Jared Weaver, Frank Tanana, TSMOPOAT, Tim Salmon, Mike Trout, Derek Jeter - NYY, Darrin Erstad, Jeff Kent - SFG, Brian Downing, Billy Wagner - ATL,

spoonfed - Baltimore Orioles:  Roberto Alomar, TSMOPPOAT, Mike Cuellar, Jim Palmer, Pat Dobson, Yadier Molina - STL, Brady Anderson, Gary Sheffield - SDP, Rafael Palmeiro, Bob Ojeda - NYM,

ff09 - Texas Rangers:  TSMOPOAT, Alex Rodriguez, Ivan Rodriguez, Julio Franco, Josh Hamilton, Rickey Henderson - NYY, Mike Napoli, Don Wilson - HOU, Mike Adams, Scott Rolen - PHI,

specsman - San Diego Padres:  Tony Gwynn, Ken Caminiti, Jake Peavy, Kevin Brown, Randy Jones, Rich Aurillia - SFG, Dave Winfield, Robinson Cano - NYY, Trevor Hoffman, Matt Holliday - COL

alleyviper - Philadelphia Phillies:  Mike Schmidt, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, Steve Carlton, Curt Schilling, Willie McCovey - SFG, Bobby Abreu, Scott Rolen - STL, Tug McGraw, Dave Righetti - NYY,

rbow923 - New York Mets:  Dwight Gooden, Tom Seaver, Pedro Martinez, Carlos Beltran, Edgardo Alfonzo, Rico Petrocelli - BOS, Mike Piazza, Mariano Rivera - NYY, Tug McGraw, Jim Edmonds - STL

devomac - Boston Red Sox:  Pedro Martinez, Derek Lowe, Roger Clemens, Wade Boggs, Fred Lynn, Joey Votto - CIN, Carl Yastrzemski, Larry Walker - MON/WSH, Jonathan Papelbon, Carlos Guillen - DET,

Disco Dogs - Seattle Mariners:  Alex Rodriguez, Ken Griffey, Jr., Bret Boone, Randy Johnson, Felix Hernandez, Nolan Ryan - HOU, Ichiro Suzuki, Adrian Beltre - TEX, Doug Fister, Don Mattingly - NYY,

schwarze - San Francisco Giants:  Barry Bonds, Buster Posey, Juan Marichal, Jason Schmidt, Tim Lincecum, Nomar Garciaparra - BOS, Kevin Mitchell, Roberto Alomar - TOR, Will Clark, Kris Medlan - ATL,

deathdealer - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals:  Tim Raines, Vladimir Guerrero, Gary Carter, Pedro Martinez, Dennis Martinez, Mike Norris, Tim Burke, JD Drew - ATL, Pascual Perez, Edwin Encarnacion - TOR,

llcoach - Atlanta Braves:  Greg Maddux, Kevin Millwood, John Smoltz, Chipper Jones, Hank Aaron, George Foster - CIN, Craig Kimbrel, Lenny Dykstra - PHI, Rafael Furcal, Andrew Bailey - OAK,

newarkwilder - Cleveland Indians:  Kenny Lofton, Manny Ramirez, Albert Belle, Jim Thome, Gaylord Perry, David Cone - KCR, Rafael Betancourt, David Wright - NYM, Victor Martinez, Miguel Tejada - BAL

moneybonn - Chicago Cubs:  Greg Maddux, Bruce Sutter, Rick Wilkins, Sammy Sosa, Derrek Lee, Tim Hudson - OAK, Ryne Sandberg, Aroldis Chapman - CIN, Billy Williams, Dickie Thon - HOU

Cheno5 - Florida Marlins:  Kevin Brown, Mike Piazza, Miguel Cabrera, Hanley Ramirez, Gary Sheffield, Bob Gibson - STL, Juan Pierre, John Olerud - NYM, Bryan Harvey, Roy Halladay - TOR,

sinfonian11 - St. Louis Cardinals:  Chris Carpenter, John Tudor, Joe Torre, Albert Pujols, Mark McGwire, Lance Berkman - HOU, Adam Wainwright, Troy Percival - LAA, Ted Simmons, Rafael Furcal - LAD,

bob_shabazz - Kansas City Royals:  Bret Saberhagen, Kevin Appier, Roger Nelson, George Brett, Carlos Beltran, Roberto Alomar - CLE, Darrell Porter, Rico Carty - ATL, Zach Greinke, Jose Reyes - NYM

shaybee - Cincinnati Reds:  Tom Seaver, HWMNBN, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, Barry Larkin, Mark Eichhorn - TOR, Eric Davis, Pedro Guerrero - LAD, Kevin Mitchell, Heath Bell - SDP

mllama54 - New York Yankees:  Ron Guidry, Fritz Peterson, Catfish Hunter, Alex Rodriguez, Paul O'Neill, Mark Loretta - SDP,  Bernie Williams, Ozzie Smith - STL, Rich Gossage, Cliff Lee - NYY

tridentric - Los Angeles Dodgers:  Don Sutton, Fernando Valenzuela, Andy Messersmith, Mike Piazza, Adrian Beltre, Andy Messersmith - LAA, Eric Gagne, Omar Vizquel - CLE, Hideo Nomo, Willie McGee - STL

sgsmith - Houston Astros:  Roger Clemens, Mike Scott, J.R. Richard, Craig Biggio, Jeff Bagwell, Chris Hoiles - BAL, Don Sutton, John Valentin - BOS, Billy Wagner, Cla Meredith - SDP

Robin4 - Oakland Athletics:  Jason Giambi, Rickey Henderson, Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter, Dennis Eckersley, Gary Carter, NYM, Miguel Tejada, Bobby Grich - BAL, Sal Bando, Mike Mussina - BAL


1/8/2013 12:22 PM
Wait, when did Ripken become TSMOPPOAT?  I can think of a couple dozen players more deserving of that title.
1/8/2013 12:50 PM
let's see what franchise I may screw up this leg!
1/8/2013 1:12 PM
Posted by alleyviper on 1/8/2013 12:22:00 PM (view original):
Wait, when did Ripken become TSMOPPOAT?  I can think of a couple dozen players more deserving of that title.
Jose made that designation quite some time ago, but I included it in the glossary for the first time this leg.
1/8/2013 2:26 PM
One of these legs I won't be picking table scraps for teams #firstdivisionproblems
1/8/2013 2:37 PM
I will select the Baltimore Orioles
1/8/2013 3:41 PM
My God! I'm not picking first. There's a shocker! Ok I'm ready to be pillaged.

LA Dodgers
1/8/2013 4:49 PM
I have proxy picks for both Disco Dogs and mllama54.
1/8/2013 5:49 PM
A's  I can't possibly mess them up, right?
1/8/2013 8:12 PM
I'll try the Blue Jays
1/8/2013 11:03 PM
Let's try the San Francisco Giants
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