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2/20/2013 3:53 PM
64stamina  93accuracy  80/90 L/R splits 31velocity  22 durability?
2/20/2013 4:07 PM
Yes.
2/20/2013 4:09 PM
Very much so. Wouldn't be an innings eater, but he's definitely able to start.
2/20/2013 9:11 PM
Yes, but all else equal it's less than optimal use. 

He'll manage about 150 IP as an SP.  If he is an SuA, he'll pitch 120 innings of much higher leverage; he'll have a greater impact on wins and losses pitching the 7th and 8th of 60 close game a year than the 1st-5th of 30 random games. 

That said, if you don't have 5 competent starters and/or you have a deep bullpen, it could be right to use him as a starter.

2/20/2013 9:54 PM
Disagree 100%.

I want 150 innings from my best pitcher not 120.    I present Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Arthur Relaford as exhibit A.

I'm CHR, dedel is OAK.
2/20/2013 10:49 PM
I was wrong to use Relaford the way I did-- but Relaford's DUR/ST is 16/84, not 22/64.  He can pitch more innings as a starter without in-game fatigue than the 22/64 guy can.  Not a good comparison.
2/20/2013 11:15 PM
22/64 with those numbers? I bet you get AT LEAST 180 innings out of that stud.
2/20/2013 11:31 PM
Even without pitches entered, I'm getting 170 IP as a starter in my formula.
2/21/2013 6:51 AM
I know that my post in off-track, but it is funny that velocity is listed, but not pitches.
2/21/2013 7:01 AM
Getting back on track, I agree with Mike, it's better to get more innings out of your better pitchers, rather than worrying about "leverage".  At around the 45 game mark, I converted Felipe Lee into a starter, and with 60 games still remaining in the season, he has now surpassed his career high in IP.  I figure with his 53 stamina, he should be good for 140-150 IP per season
2/21/2013 7:11 AM
Posted by dedelman on 2/20/2013 10:49:00 PM (view original):
I was wrong to use Relaford the way I did-- but Relaford's DUR/ST is 16/84, not 22/64.  He can pitch more innings as a starter without in-game fatigue than the 22/64 guy can.  Not a good comparison.
I look at it this way.  I have approximately 1458 innings to cover.     I can have my best pitchers pitch as many as possible or I can worry about who's pitching in the 7th inning.    It seems crazy that I'd want my 15/50 DUR/STM combo absolute ace pitching 100 innings as a RP rather than him pitching 135 as a SP.   If I have a great pitcher who can throw 50 pitches a game without wrecking the rest of my staff, he's a starter.   He may never see the 5th inning.  He may finish the season 0-6 because of that.   But, if he has a WHIP of 1.02 and an ERA of 2.78, he'll get over not getting a win.    And I'll be happy that he gave me almost 4 extra games of innings. 
2/21/2013 7:53 AM
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Andres Castilla and Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Will Mahoney will be part of my rotation in a couple of seasons.   Castilla will likely be 26/46 and Mahoney 19/55.   Both will be set at 50-60 PC(more or less) and neither will likely see the 5th inning.  They'll join Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Jimmy Powell and Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Kyle Anderson.   I'll probably add a high inning 5th starter and build my bullpen so it can handle the work Castilla and Mahoney will put on them.

Not getting the max innings from Castilla/Mahoney seems amateurish HBD play.
2/21/2013 8:12 AM
I have a 15/72 guy on one of my teams.  He arguably has the best ratings of all my SP types on that team.

I don't have him in the rotation, but what I will do is tandem-B him whenever he's at 100% with whoever my regular starter is for that day.  I'll also decrease the TPC/MPC for the A starter to try to ensure that my B guy gets his maximum innings, both for the game and, long term, for the season.

One of the side benefits of doing this is that my A starter won't get as fatigued and may be able to come back and pitch a day earlier than usual if he's a front of the rotation guy.  If he's a back of the rotation guy, then I'm minimizing his innings.

As Mike said, not getting the maximum innings out of your best pitchers is doing yourself a disservice.
2/21/2013 8:33 AM
It's all about how you build your staff.   As evidenced by my 7:53 post, I know I have two low inning SP on the horizon.    I planned on that by trading for Anderson(26/99) who'll be a workhorse.   Providing nothing changes over the next couple of seasons, Powell will be my SP1 with either Mahoney or Castilla at 2 and Anderson, saving the bullpen after a heavy workload from the previous day, at 3.    Then the SP4 is whichever guy wasn't the SP2.  I expect, at some point, Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Ivan Bonilla, another big innings guy, to round out my rotation.   He was signed a month ago with that expectation.

This isn't rocket science.   You can project your future team pretty easily and make moves to correct weaknesses. 
2/21/2013 8:39 AM
Given all this... I have a 19 yr old 19/56 prospect who projects to be this type of starter.  Should I be doing anything special to maximize his development, or is a regular turn in the rotation good enough?

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