3/13/2013 11:43 AM
Nope, not fatigue. I just went through the game logs for the 24 players I looked at. Six had played a game at less than 100%, resulting in a total of 2 errors out of the 50 committed by the 24 players. The lowest any of those six got was 93%.
3/13/2013 5:05 PM
Next Game Jaque Jones with 4 errors.
3/14/2013 9:30 AM
So does everyone in the league have ticket into admin? I'd like to see an explanation on this one.
3/14/2013 9:39 AM
Yup. Something is clearly amiss.
3/14/2013 9:46 AM

Changes within the last 90 days...

01/11/2013

  • Engine fix for OF fielding. Transposed number in 12/31 update caused a small drag on OF defense.

Is this related to that fix they made in January? Perhaps the same transposition exists for the live engine and they didn't fix that? It seems as if the main issues are with OF defense...
 
3/14/2013 12:00 PM
I suggested exactly that in my ticket, the response to which basically told me to **** off and that they would only respond to the original ticket by ace. Spreadsheet and data be damned.
3/14/2013 1:03 PM
The record for most errors by a team in a season in MLB is the 1963 Mets' 200. 15 of the 24 teams in this league are on pace for more than that, with four more on pace for 178 or more. Small Sample Size or Random Variation would work both ways, not just an increase.

  Games Errors Err/Game Err/162  
Sante Fe Small Slammers 6 30 5.0 810 1
Pittsburgh Prospects 9 28 3.1 504 2
Los Angeles AAA 10 21 2.1 340 3
Louisville Live 14 28 2.0 324 4
Portland Power 1 2 2.0 324 5
Chicago Competitors 44 75 1.7 276 6
Cleveland Cream Puffs 13 22 1.7 274 7
Anaheim Ace 49 82 1.7 271 8
Rhode Island Slammers 4 6 1.5 243 9
Cheyenne Clutch 21 31 1.5 239 10
Dallas Double Plays 9 13 1.4 234 11
Baltimore Bunters 6 8 1.3 216 12
Atlanta Speed 19 25 1.3 213 13
Philadelphia Platoons 17 22 1.3 210 14
Sacramento Sluggers 8 10 1.3 203 15
New York Bombers 27 33 1.2 198 16
Phoenix Pitchers 10 12 1.2 194 17
Oregon Open 14 16 1.1 185 18
Boston Beaters 31 34 1.1 178 19
Cincinnati Classics 7 6 0.9 139 20
STLOUISSUPERSTARS 16 11 0.7 111 21
Massachusetts Mediocre 3 2 0.7 108 22
Detroit Duo 18 8 0.4 72 23
Indianapolis Fielders 18 7 0.4 63 24
3/14/2013 1:08 PM
It's not like a bunch of rubes put these teams together, either.

#1 and 2 on the list belong to ace1430 (184 SLB seasons)
#3 is szczubelek (900!!)
#4 is ratedpg_13 (83)
#5 is BastanRedsox (186)
#6 is tato526 (224)
#7 is joshkvt (424)
#8 is besterateam (202)
#9 is The Taint (591)
#10 is 11kwyetman28 (25)
etc. etc.
3/14/2013 2:07 PM
Posted by AKlopp on 3/14/2013 9:46:00 AM (view original):

Changes within the last 90 days...

01/11/2013

  • Engine fix for OF fielding. Transposed number in 12/31 update caused a small drag on OF defense.

Is this related to that fix they made in January? Perhaps the same transposition exists for the live engine and they didn't fix that? It seems as if the main issues are with OF defense...
 
That appears to be exactly the problem. I went through the OF and SS with the most errors. The 10 OF I looked at average being on pace for 7.7x their actual errors, and the SS average 1.5x RL pace. Several of the players at each pos are on the same teams, which eliminates the deadball-pitching issue — on my team, OF Jimmy McAleer is on pace for 185 E/162 compared to 32 E/162 in MLB; SS Honus Wagner is on pace for 34.7 compared to 42.1 in MLB.

On a fun (for everyone but his GM) note, Bing Miller (B fielding) is on pace for 297 errors.

Data below for highest-error players at OF/SS through an average of about 25 games per team.

  Sim E/162 RL E/162 Variance
OF 100.0 13.0 7.7x
SS 71.7 48.4 1.5x

3/14/2013 4:27 PM
Only 297, here i thought he was on pace for 300 :).
3/15/2013 2:34 AM
Posted by joshkvt on 3/14/2013 2:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by AKlopp on 3/14/2013 9:46:00 AM (view original):

Changes within the last 90 days...

01/11/2013

  • Engine fix for OF fielding. Transposed number in 12/31 update caused a small drag on OF defense.

Is this related to that fix they made in January? Perhaps the same transposition exists for the live engine and they didn't fix that? It seems as if the main issues are with OF defense...
 
That appears to be exactly the problem. I went through the OF and SS with the most errors. The 10 OF I looked at average being on pace for 7.7x their actual errors, and the SS average 1.5x RL pace. Several of the players at each pos are on the same teams, which eliminates the deadball-pitching issue — on my team, OF Jimmy McAleer is on pace for 185 E/162 compared to 32 E/162 in MLB; SS Honus Wagner is on pace for 34.7 compared to 42.1 in MLB.

On a fun (for everyone but his GM) note, Bing Miller (B fielding) is on pace for 297 errors.

Data below for highest-error players at OF/SS through an average of about 25 games per team.

  Sim E/162 RL E/162 Variance
OF 100.0 13.0 7.7x
SS 71.7 48.4 1.5x

NIce job figuring this out.
3/15/2013 3:31 AM
Thanks. Now we just need it fixed...
3/15/2013 9:30 PM
More curiosities as we complete day 2 without a response other than the original canned answer that it's working fine ...

This appears to be the only Live league affected by the problem. I checked four others that use a mix of players throughout the data base (to include the deadball pitcher effect) and the OF fielding seems normal in all of them. A draft-center search found a total of 3 OF (primary position, 450+ PA) with fielding percentages under .900. This one league has 13 of them among the 25 OF with the most innings.

It's league #MLB104614.

Here are the stats for the 10 OF with the most chances:
Rank Name SN Pos GP GS + - Inn PO A E DP Fld% RF
1 Dilone, Miguel 1980 CF 45 44 0 3 333.0 109 1 13 0 .894 2.973
2 Sosa, Sammy 1999 CF 37 37 4 1 322.0 91 1 15 0 .860 2.569
3 Speaker, Tris 1922 CF 37 31 3 0 265.0 78 1 14 0 .849 2.676
4 Walker, Larry 1999 RF 42 38 0 1 333.0 61 0 5 0 .924 1.647
5 Hamilton, Billy 1893 LF 28 25 1 0 207.0 60 0 10 0 .857 2.605
6 White, Jo-jo 1934 LF 37 36 3 0 256.0 60 0 13 0 .822 2.109
7 Williams, Cy 1923 CF 28 27 0 2 240.0 60 0 8 0 .882 2.250
8 Mantle, Mickey 1961 CF 23 23 3 0 206.0 59 6 3 0 .956 2.840
9 Raines, Tim 1985 LF 24 23 0 0 199.0 48 0 4 0 .923 2.164
10 Lofton, Kenny 2005 RF 30 27 0 0 205.0 47 0 8 0 .855 2.060



3/15/2013 9:45 PM
Here are the top 10 from the previous season of the same league, with the same restrictions, player pool, AAA, etc., also sorted by most innings

Rank Name SN Pos GP GS + - Inn PO A E DP Fld% RF
1 Speaker, Tris 1912 LF 162 162 12 0 1,463.0 305 2 7 0 .978 1.888
2 Kemp, Matt 2011 CF 162 162 0 6 1,449.0 426 5 8 0 .982 2.676
3 Cravath, Gavvy 1914 LF 162 162 3 3 1,444.0 333 8 18 2 .950 2.125
4 Mantle, Mickey 1955 LF 162 162 15 1 1,438.0 321 3 4 0 .988 2.027
5 Gonzalez, Carlos 2010 LF 161 159 0 1 1,434.0 326 4 2 0 .994 2.070
6 Walker, Tilly 1922 RF 160 160 8 0 1,415.0 283 8 14 0 .954 1.851
7 McCutchen, Andrew 2012 CF 162 162 6 1 1,411.0 410 10 1 0 .998 2.678
8 Guerrero, Vladimir 2000 LF 157 157 2 0 1,410.0 309 4 8 1 .975 1.997
9 Freeman, Buck 1899 LF 161 161 0 19 1,410.0 305 8 10 0 .969 1.997
10 Magee, Sherry 1914 RF 162 162 16 1 1,408.0 277 5 19 0 .937 1.803
3/16/2013 11:41 AM
3/16/2013 11:37 AM Customer Support
Josh,

Based on the data, it does seem like the 1/11/2013 update did not take for LIVE. We have rebooted the service this AM and verified the proper engine is in place. Based on log data and the data you provided, it does seem there was an issue with this.

Thank you for your persistence. We apologize it took a few days from your original ticket to get this resolved.

Let's hope OF start playing like themselves again.
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