religion does noy belong as a factor in enacitng laws in a secular democratic republic
Clearly the founding fathers and many others have disagreed, but those with agendas love to pick and choose whatever fits those agendas. When confronted, they'll deny they have any agenda and simply claim they're "doing what is right". For example, this type of statement is often made by those with an atheist agenda that I'm sure will be denied if anyone having said agenda responds to this statement I'm making right now.
using religion as so called national values does not transform it into a non religious value.
Individuals can have whatever set of values they want to have. If the vast majority of a collective population have the same essential set of values, THAT is what makes those values essentially become "national values". It doesn't matter if they have to do with religion or not.
What bothers me is when people want to go against the wishes of the vast majority of people by trying to make the argument about something that is irrelevant.
Saying the collective values of the majority of people shouldn't matter because they may have used religion to form those values would be like saying votes in an election shouldn't count if someone cast their ballot based upon their religious belief - it's just patently absurd.
The founding fathers had nothing to do with In god we trust being on our currency.
No, they didn't. However, the founding fathers DID establish the precedent of including religion in government, and that is the point. When "In God We Trust" was placed on currency
during the Civil War era, that never could have happened if there hadn't been such a precedent set.
If you disagree, imagine if those words were not already on some currency and the government attempted to add them TODAY - the radical atheists would descend onto Washington like angry bees from a battered hive (a good metaphor except the bees actually produce something while the radical atheists just seek to destroy things).