5/22/2013 1:06 AM
Posted by noah23 on 5/21/2013 11:36:00 PM (view original):
BTW, I ended up winning 120-115. 235 points, 2390 yards. 33 TD's in the game. Absolutely unbelievable. These are two close to evenly rated teams, with indy actually slightly better rated according to test games. both teams trying to combat passing, both using full passing with most if not all deep passing offenses. I'm ok with an occassional 60-50 game, but 120-115 should not be possible. 
I think passing is broken, but not to the extent you do.  The game would have been very different if your opponent wasn't trying to defend your shotgun with a 4-4.  If this offense is so ridiculously effective, you should consistently blow out a D3 team running a conventional offense.  But if you sim some games against Rensselaer Tech, you'll see that you struggle to even win games against them.  

5/22/2013 1:29 AM
Now that is an interesting proposition. I am barely any more effective running a balanced game plan against Rtech then I am with an all pass gameplan. And, quite frankly, outside of QB Ashland is superior just about everywhere. I have been trying to run dime all pass against all pass offenses and not doing anything to stop them. When two teams play this offense against each other both teams end up closer then they probably would have. Rtech is a beast of a DIII team or the quality of DII teams are lagging so bad they are like DIII teams right now. I don't care if 10 players are in the box, that box score should not be possible. My team is actually not suited for passing the ball, but I have only won since switching offenses. 
5/22/2013 1:31 AM
Its also odd, because Rtech is really the first team I've played against where going balanced has actually helped me in any way. I'm guessing because of the equalizing effect of talent based on luck of the comp% variations. If I'm playing a team I am better than maybe I can run the ball and that be the best way, but equal or better teams I get beat by 40 if I run at all. 
5/22/2013 1:57 AM
Then of course there is south dakota state. I get nearly shut out with a balanced or run heavy offense, yet I consistently beat them in test games with the all pass offense. Its not like its a 10-0 to 30-27 swing either. Goes from 30-3 to 60-40 or even bigger a difference. That team is better then me at every single category. 
5/22/2013 2:02 PM
Go and sim some games against Indianapolis now that he's changed out of the 44 against your shotgun.
5/22/2013 11:54 PM
Ok...wow. That is a big difference. That begs the question as to why I can't slow down that sort of offense even with dime/nickel/long coverage. Still too much, shouldn't be able to average 500 yards a game against someone who is calling close to correct if not correct defenses against it without being significantly better. 
5/23/2013 11:18 AM
In D3 Bava, Greenville has passed for 9,800 yards and 164 TDs, 24.5 average per completion through 11 games.  I would say that passing is out of hand.
5/23/2013 11:37 AM
Posted by noah23 on 5/22/2013 11:54:00 PM (view original):
Ok...wow. That is a big difference. That begs the question as to why I can't slow down that sort of offense even with dime/nickel/long coverage. Still too much, shouldn't be able to average 500 yards a game against someone who is calling close to correct if not correct defenses against it without being significantly better. 
Talent - your DBs are pretty weak
Depth - you're running a dime with only 6 DBs on the roster.  they may be fatigued or there's out of position subs playing
5/23/2013 1:20 PM
I don't care if they are huffing and puffing playing DL as CB's...they should not be giving up 120 points in a game with the right defense called. 70..maybe against a far superior team, but come on now. 
5/23/2013 2:21 PM
Posted by noah23 on 5/23/2013 1:20:00 PM (view original):
I don't care if they are huffing and puffing playing DL as CB's...they should not be giving up 120 points in a game with the right defense called. 70..maybe against a far superior team, but come on now. 
This is where we differ.  I think if your talent doesn't match up, you shouldn't be in the game.   

Name Year Pos Starter A SPD D WE ST STR BLK TKL H GI E T TOT
Reginald Barnes So. DB   45 38 62 44 44 29 18 53 38 51 61 45 528
Jason Herring So. DB 63 45 45 35 51 30 8 50 39 41 46 41 494
Brian Randolph So. DB   36 41 57 57 45 30 16 43 41 49 49 37 501
Edward Davies Sr. DB 58 56 47 47 50 63 14 47 47 24 40 31 524
Robert Gay Sr. DB 35 56 44 43 40 44 31 49 28 43 64 46 523
James Nelson Sr. DB 32 42 56 43 53 44 24 66 31 53 77 49 570
  DB Averages: 45 46 52 45 47 40 19 51 37 43 56 42 523

Your DBs are bad.  Just looking at speed, I can field a 4WR set where all 4 WRs are 10+ faster than your fastest DB.  And this would come from a D3 team.  I'm sure there are D2 teams who can really do you ugly on matchups.  With that kind of mismatch, I can see SMU-Houston type scores and yardages, especially if they keep their starters in all game.
5/23/2013 3:27 PM
I'm not talking about being in the game. I'm talking about the other team scoring 100+ points. Has it even ever been done irl? 
5/23/2013 4:18 PM
Houston put up 95 points and 1000+ yards of offense against SMU.  They could have easily done more if they didn't pull their starters at the half.
5/23/2013 6:24 PM
Keep in mind one reason you see more 100+ point differentials here, noah- even though it's still not a common occurence- is hundreds of games are simulated per day PER WORLD. Someone did the math once, and I think a day there are 1000+ games simulated. At least.
5/23/2013 11:20 PM
if a good team gameplans right..they will score 100 points every game against subpar teams. I'm sorry. Not buying it. If it were 1 in a thousand games...sure. I'm game for that. 
5/24/2013 9:11 AM
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