7/24/2013 3:03 PM
I would love to see part of the player's development be a controlled randomness. 75% of their ratings are as they are now and then the final 25% is random but based on a scoutable attribute.
7/24/2013 6:00 PM
Posted by WiredTiger on 7/24/2013 3:03:00 PM (view original):
I would love to see part of the player's development be a controlled randomness. 75% of their ratings are as they are now and then the final 25% is random but based on a scoutable attribute.
A scoutable attribute isn't quite random, but could offer more variance. I'm in favor of that.
7/24/2013 9:42 PM
I think you should get what you pay for. If you pay for scouting your scouting should be accurate. Most of the arguments I read for randomness only apply to minor league development, IFA or DITR. I hear very few arguments asking for randomness in FA i.e. players signing big contracts and underperforming such as Pujols and Hamilton. That tells me that the discussion really isn't about randomness.

Having said that, I agree with the sentiment of the last 2 posts. I would like to see a system where the DITR is based on a probability factor. For instance there would be 4 players from the top 200 overall rated players that would be coded to be future DITR. The more you spend on scouting the more of the top 200 players you would see, the more draft picks you have the greater your odds to get one of these players. Nobody, however, would ever know who these players are and they would have normal progressions until they have completed 6 seasons, at which time the DITR would kick in and their minimum rating for the effected categories would be a 70. Categories for pitchers would be control, L,R and pitch command. Hitters would progress in either hitting or defense. Health would also be a minimum of 70.  

Examples:
1 a pitcher with 20 control and 75 R, 57 L splits and 38 health would become a pitcher with 70 control, 75 R, 70 L with min 70 command of each pitch with 70 health.

2. A hitter with 96 Power 28 R, 31 L hitter would become 96 Power, 70 R, 70 L hitter with min contact and eye of 70.

What I think this would accomplish is to add a little pizzazz to trading and the draft. Those AAAA players that get traded could potentially be star players and teams drafting lower i.e. 32 in the draft would still have a chance to acquire a top prospect if they spend money on scouting without penalizing the teams drafting higher who spend money on scouting... in fact the best player in the draft could be drafted in as low as the 5th or 6th round.
7/25/2013 4:13 PM
People would freak. Seriously, I paid more for X, therefore I have more tickets to win the lottery?

That's a good idea. For the casino. Or the corner store. Not a strategy based game.
7/25/2013 6:35 PM
I'm all for more randomness.  Adapting to unpredictable events IS strategy.  I'm not advocating MORE MORE, though.  If you make DITR apply to all players, then you should also apply Brian Taylor Disease where a player has his ratings take a hit unexpectedly.  Both need to apply to ALL players or at least all players below age 27.
7/27/2013 4:18 PM
The problem with first round busts, not the "Damn, I screwed up and drafted a crappy player because I only budgeted 4m" bust, but the "I budgeted 20m in scouting and drafted a future stud" bust is that downtrodden owners have to see a light at the end of the tunnel or they'll just get another team in another world.   Give an owner a couple of high pick busts and he'll give up on the team.
7/28/2013 2:49 PM
Or give up on the game entirely
7/29/2013 10:32 AM
Here's how you get more "randomness"

Instead of having injuries in this game be 5 times less than the ML average, have them at the ML average. Then health means something. Then that 8th overall pick with 55 health is really playing with fire.

That is your bust.

Instead of saying "hey, owner, here's the next Mike Piazza", instead you have the ratings and his results blow past the projected, and the owner actually has to notice that his 18th round pick might be his best prospect in the minors, instead of having it fed to him on a platter.

7/29/2013 10:48 AM
AGREED with death.  The way to generate more performance isn't more super players, it's LESS super players.
7/29/2013 11:02 AM
I've said that for 5 years.    When a world has two 85s, ten 75s and the rest are under 70 in the big leagues, those 75s are studs.  
7/29/2013 4:43 PM
Posted by deathinahole on 7/29/2013 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Here's how you get more "randomness"

Instead of having injuries in this game be 5 times less than the ML average, have them at the ML average. Then health means something. Then that 8th overall pick with 55 health is really playing with fire.

That is your bust.

Instead of saying "hey, owner, here's the next Mike Piazza", instead you have the ratings and his results blow past the projected, and the owner actually has to notice that his 18th round pick might be his best prospect in the minors, instead of having it fed to him on a platter.

Very good.  I also once mentioned I'd like more injuries, and I'm confident people would freak if that happened.
7/29/2013 6:19 PM
Injuries were more frequent early on.   People did freak. 

Seems like 90% of the threads were "How the **** can we play this game if all our players get hurt?"
7/29/2013 6:55 PM
It would sure as hell fix the people that don't give two ***** about their minors.
You would need a healthy and stocked AAA and AA, minimum, to get through a season.

Kind of like, oh, I don't know, MLB?
7/29/2013 7:06 PM
The other 10% of the threads were "What professional pitcher is tired after 10 pitches?   I've got a bunch of great pitchers with a stamina of 8.  THAT'S BULLSHIT!!!!"
7/29/2013 7:18 PM
If 75s become studs, then 60-65s become dependable veterans.  The huge middle class of AAA pitchers who can give you 200+ innings but only have 50/50ish splits would become major league contributors.

Regarding injury frequency, in real life, don't 9 out of 10 pitchers get Tommy John by the time they're 24 years old these days?  There are times I suspect some teams would prefer a kid gets his first TJ out of the way early so they can get on with developing him after.

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