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columbusbuck
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Carr is probably THE most successful of that bunch.
8/30/2017 9:22 PM
MikeT23
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Probably?
8/30/2017 11:00 PM
columbusbuck
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Bortles will surprise a lot of people this season.
8/31/2017 5:42 AM
MikeT23
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He barely won the job over Chad Henne. The Bortles surprise might be that he still starting in week 6.
8/31/2017 7:06 AM
wylie715
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he didn't say what the surprise would be, just that he'd surprise people.
8/31/2017 2:37 PM
columbusbuck
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I used the word "surprise" because I assumed you would not also be enthusiastic about his prospects.
Therefore your responses come as, alternatively, no surprise.
8/31/2017 6:17 PM
MikeT23
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I figured Bortles' first year would be a struggle. I thought he'd shine by his 2nd. I no longer think he'll shine. He'll be a fine back-up somewhere once JAX gives up on him.
8/31/2017 6:26 PM
columbusbuck
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A reminder that Alex Smith struggled his first seven seasons in the NFL. And Sam Bradford had all kinds of issues with the Rams and Eagles his first five years.
Both have had much better careers since a change in coaching.

Bradford in Minnesota last season:
G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2016 Minnesota Vikings 15 552 395 71.6 36.8 3,877 7.0 258.5 20 3.6 5 0.9 71T 49 8 37 276 99.3

Alex Smith one year under Harbaugh and in KC:
2016 Kansas City Chiefs 15 489 328 67.1 32.6 3,502 7.2 233.5 15 3.1 8 1.6 80T 39 8 28 140 91.2
2015 Kansas City Chiefs 16 470 307 65.3 29.4 3,486 7.4 217.9 20 4.3 7 1.5 80T 42 10 45 235 95.4
2014 Kansas City Chiefs 15 464 303 65.3 30.9 3,265 7.0 217.7 18 3.9 6 1.3 70T 40 3 45 229 93.4
2013 Kansas City Chiefs 15 508 308 60.6 33.9 3,313 6.5 220.9 23 4.5 7 1.4 71T 42 6 39 210 89.1
2012 San Francisco 49ers 10 218 153 70.2 21.8 1,737 8.0 173.7 13 6.0 5 2.3 55 22 4 24 137 104.1

8/31/2017 7:01 PM (edited)
MikeT23
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Alex Smith nor Sam Bradford will have the same career as Carr. They're both caretakers until their respective teams can get good QBs. Bortles probably qualifies as a caretaker.
8/31/2017 6:51 PM
columbusbuck
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Carr's numbers look pretty similar to Smiths' and Bradford's if you ask me. Lower even in QB rating in two of the seasons.
Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2016 Oakland Raiders 15 560 357 63.8 37.3 3,937 7.0 262.5 28 5.0 6 1.1 75T 50 8 16 79 96.7
2015 Oakland Raiders 16 573 350 61.1 35.8 3,987 7.0 249.2 32 5.6 13 2.3 68T 53 10 31 230 91.1
2014 Oakland Raiders 16 599 348 58.1 37.4 3,270 5.5 204.4 21 3.5 12 2.0 77T 28 7 24 149 76.6
8/31/2017 7:04 PM
MikeT23
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Not being sarcastic but do you watch the NFL? This is a college thread so you may not. But you might be the first person, on earth, to compare Carr to Smith/Bradford.
8/31/2017 7:07 PM
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Any comment from the "Johnny Football" lovers after his Canadian debut?
8/4/2018 9:19 AM
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