People who complain about Joss, switch-hitting speedsters, and cookie OL teams, and then continue to play only OLs and complain. Play a progressive league. Play a theme league with player restrictions. Do something else, just stop complaining about Joss and then only playing OLs. It's very easy to play in fun, competitive leagues on this site and NEVER face Addie Joss again, or never see another Dilone, Bip, Raines, HoJo, Carter, etc. cookie team.